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Think tank says network boosted by U.S. conflict in Iraq.
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The United States remains al-Qaida’s prime target, the report said. An al-Qaida leader has said 4 million Americans will have to be killed “as a prerequisite to any Islamic victory,” the survey said
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5057703/


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Videotape shows revelers at celebration(Wedding massacre)


Kholood, a 2-year-old Iraqi girl, lies in a bed Sunday in the hospital in Ramadi, west of Baghdad, Iraq. Kholood was injured by shrapnel in her back when U.S. helicopters fired on a wedding party on May 19 in the desert near the border with Syria, killing more than 40 people. Kholood lost her parents, and four of her brothers and sisters during the attack.

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RAMADI, Iraq - The bride arrives in a white pickup truck and is quickly ushered into a house by a group of women. Outside, men recline on brightly colored silk pillows, relaxing on the carpeted floor of a large goat-hair tent as boys dance to tribal songs.
 
The videotape obtained Sunday by Associated Press Television News captures a wedding party that survivors say was later attacked by U.S. planes early Wednesday, killing up to 45 people. The dead included the cameraman, Yasser Shawkat Abdullah, hired to record the festivities, which ended Tuesday night before the planes struck.

The U.S. military says it is investigating the attack, which took place in the village of Mogr el-Deeb about five miles from the Syrian border, but that all evidence so far indicates the target was a safehouse for foreign fighters.

“There was no evidence of a wedding: no decorations, no musical instruments found, no large quantities of food or leftover servings one would expect from a wedding celebration,” Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said Saturday. “There may have been some kind of celebration. Bad people have celebrations, too.”

The artifacts of celebration
But video that APTN shot a day after the attack shows fragments of musical instruments, pots and pans and brightly colored beddings used for celebrations, scattered around the bombed out tent.

The wedding videotape shows a dozen white pickup trucks speeding through the desert escorting the bridal car — decorated with colorful ribbons. The bride wears a Western-style white bridal dress and veil. The camera captures her stepping out of the car but does not show a close-up.

An AP reporter and photographer, who interviewed more than a dozen survivors a day after the bombing, were able to identify many of them on the wedding party video — which runs for several hours.

APTN also traveled to Mogr el-Deeb, 250 miles west of Ramadi, the day after the attack to film what the survivors said was the wedding site. A devastated building and remnants of the tent, pots and pans could be seen, along with bits of what appeared to be the remnants of ordnance, one of which bore the marking “ATU-35,” similar to those on U.S. bombs.

A water tanker truck can be seen in both the video shot by APTN and the wedding tape obtained from a cousin of the groom.

The endless party
The singing and dancing seems to go on forever at the all-male tent set up in the garden of the host, Rikad Nayef, for the wedding of his son, Azhad, and the bride Rutbah Sabah. The men later move to the porch when darkness falls, apparently taking advantage of the cool night weather.

Children, mainly boys, sit on their fathers’ laps; men smoke an Arab water pipe, finger worry beads and chat with one another. It looks like a typical, gender-segregated tribal desert wedding.

As expected, women are out of sight — but according to survivors, they danced to the music of Hussein al-Ali, a popular Baghdad wedding singer hired for the festivities. Al-Ali was buried in Baghdad on Thursday.

The organist, before and after
Prominently displayed on the videotape was a stocky man with close-cropped hair playing an electric organ. Another tape, filmed a day later in Ramadi and obtained by APTN, showed the musician lying dead in a burial shroud — his face clearly visible and wearing the same tan shirt as he wore when he performed.

As the musicians played, young men milled about, most dressed in traditional white robes. Young men swayed in tribal dances to the monotonous tones of traditional Arabic music. Two children — a boy and a girl — held hands, dancing and smiling. Women are rarely filmed at such occasions, and they appear only in distant glimpses.

Kimmitt said U.S. troops who swept through the area found rifles, machine guns, foreign passports, bedding, syringes and other items that suggested the site was used by foreigners infiltrating from Syria.

The videotape showed no weapons, although they are common among rural Iraqis.

U.S. denies finding children
Kimmitt has denied finding evidence that any children died in the raid although a “handful of women” — perhaps four to six — were “caught up in the engagement.”

“They may have died from some of the fire that came from the aircraft,” he told reporters Friday.

However, an AP reporter obtained names of at least 10 children who relatives said had died. Bodies of five of them were filmed by APTN when the survivors took them to Ramadi for burial Wednesday. Iraqi officials said at least 13 children were killed.

Four days after the attack, the memories of the survivors remain painful — as are their injuries.

Haleema Shihab, 32, one of the three wives of Rikad Nayef, said that as the first bombs fell, she grabbed her seven-month old son, Yousef, and clutching the hands of her 5-year-old son, Hamza, started running. Her 15-year-old son, Ali, sprinted alongside her. They managed to run for several yards when she fell, her leg fractured.

“Hamza was yelling, ‘mommy,”’ Shihab, recalled. “Ali said he was hurt and that he was bleeding. That’s the last time I heard him.” Then another shell fell and injured Shihab’s left arm.

Laughing soldiers?
“Hamza fell from my hand and was gone. Only Yousef stayed in my arms. Ali had been hit and was killed. I couldn’t go back,” she said from her hospital bed in Ramadi. Her arm was in a cast.

She and her stepdaughter, Iqbal — who had caught up with her — hid in a bomb crater. “We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise,” Shihab said.

Soon American soldiers came. One of them kicked her to see if she was alive, she said.

“I pretended I was dead so he wouldn’t kill me,” said Shihab. She said the soldier was laughing. When Yousef cried, the soldier said: “’No, stop,” said Shihab.

Fourteen-year-old Moza, Shihab’s stepdaughter, lies on another bed of the hospital room. She was hurt in the leg and cries. Her relatives haven’t told her yet that her mother, Sumaya, is dead. “I fear she’s dead,” Moza said of her mother. “I’m worried about her.”

Moza was sleeping on one side of the porch next to her sisters Siham, Subha and Zohra while her mother slept on the other end. There were many others on the porch, her cousins, stepmothers and other female relatives.

Four sisters
When the first shell fell, Moza and her sisters, Subha, Fatima and Siham ran off together. Moza was holding Subha’s hand.

“I don’t know where Fatima and my mom were. Siham got hit. She died. I saw Zohra’s head gone. I lost consciousness,” said Moza, covering her mouth with the end of her headscarf.

Her sister Iqbal, lay in pain on the bed next to her. Her other sister, Subha, was on the upper floor of the hospital, in the same room with 2-year-Khoolood. Her small body was bandaged and a tube inserted in her side drained her liver.

Her ankle was bandaged. A red ribbon was tied to her curly hair. Only she and her older brother, Faisal, survived from their immediate family. Her parents and four sisters and brothers were all killed.

In all, 27 members of Rikad Nayef’s extended family died — most of them children and women, the family said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5045772/

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Re:Report: Al-Qaida has 18,000 ready to strike/Wedding massacre
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2004, 12:36:18 PM »
look at all the responses!  :D
 

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2004, 12:46:16 PM »
When bush told the american people about the War to Iraq i was pretty happy. The bush administration was telling the people of all the stuff thats going on in Iraq. Nuclear and Biological weapons. And most of all Al-queda is being housed there.

sometime went by and i was getting tired of waiting for these two things to "appear". now the time has come when i am completly just plain angry at this whole war. In this war we have ruined so many things, and also made so many things worse.

Our goal was to rid the world of terrorists. Report: Al-Qaida has 18,000 ready to strike. We have not only done nothing productive against these guys.....we've given them an even greater reason to hate us and try to kill us. Great.

I think i read somewher that the civilian casualties are at around 5,000 civilian casualties. This is going nowhere fast. Were pissing off the entire world. This is making things worse for the american people. Bush' speach yesterday gave me no hope of leaving iraq anytime soon.

If Bush gets another term....were going to be in iraq for his entire term i gurantee that. If Kerry wins.....i really have no idea this guy is so fuckin indecisive. i have no idea what hes thinking.
 

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2004, 01:42:34 PM »
look at all the responses!  :D

This is a news post retard.




When bush told the american people about the War to Iraq i was pretty happy. The bush administration was telling the people of all the stuff thats going on in Iraq. Nuclear and Biological weapons. And most of all Al-queda is being housed there.

sometime went by and i was getting tired of waiting for these two things to "appear". now the time has come when i am completly just plain angry at this whole war. In this war we have ruined so many things, and also made so many things worse.

Our goal was to rid the world of terrorists. Report: Al-Qaida has 18,000 ready to strike. We have not only done nothing productive against these guys.....we've given them an even greater reason to hate us and try to kill us. Great.

I think i read somewher that the civilian casualties are at around 5,000 civilian casualties. This is going nowhere fast. Were pissing off the entire world. This is making things worse for the american people. Bush' speach yesterday gave me no hope of leaving iraq anytime soon.

If Bush gets another term....were going to be in iraq for his entire term i gurantee that. If Kerry wins.....i really have no idea this guy is so fuckin indecisive. i have no idea what hes thinking.

great post


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Re:Report: Al-Qaida has 18,000 ready to strike/Wedding massacre
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2004, 02:33:16 PM »
I don't care what reason its for. Terrorists are pussies. If I saw an Al Queda person I would blow his fuckin brain out.
 

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2004, 02:48:41 PM »
I don't care what reason its for. Terrorists are pussies. If I saw an Al Queda person I would blow his fuckin brain out.

Join the military then  :P
 

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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2004, 02:52:26 PM »
I don't care what reason its for. Terrorists are pussies. If I saw an Al Queda person I would blow his fuckin brain out.

lol kid gone wild with keyboard.

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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2004, 03:04:25 PM »
I actually know people that were on one of the flight that hit the WTC. If you lost friends because of someones religious beliefs you would be pissed too.
 

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2004, 03:17:21 PM »
I actually know people that were on one of the flight that hit the WTC. If you lost friends because of someones religious beliefs you would be pissed too.

Actually I had a FedEX package lost on 911 plane








and I didn't have insurance  ;D
 

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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2004, 04:05:51 PM »
LMAO
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2004, 04:19:34 PM »
I don't care what reason its for. Terrorists are pussies. If I saw an Al Queda person I would blow his fuckin brain out.

Join the military then  :P

lol not gonna find many al quadia in iraq

only thing your gonna kill in the military are some angry iraqi muslim rebels.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2004, 05:30:26 PM »
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20040526/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/terror_threat_6

Read that. It goes along with Max's article. This is basically saying that us officials believe there will be an attack during the summer. They may have possesions of chemical or biological weapons. Which isnt really hard anthrax is real easy to get.

anyway. They mentioned that there was a classified task force created by the FBI soley for this purpose. but its not classified anymore. They mentioned the WW2 memorial dedication, which is couple days before memorial day. I highly doubt they would do this, but on the other hand it would fuck us over badly. not to mention im going to be there  :'(  so they better not.

anyway. Are any of you guys worried what these fuckers are going to do next? I am very! Im not really in a city that i would be a possible target (or at least i think not), but i still have a fear even though im not in a big city. This stuff makes me wish i lived in a neutral country.

Our government needs to stop this shit with iraq, and set our priorities big time. 18,000 al-quida and we dont know where any of them are. We need to use all of our rescources to find these people within the usa, and also use our rescources to destroy their training camps and weapons cache facilities. To me right now this is the only thing that mattters, because God forbid another 9/11 attack happens.

That will seriously hurt our country in many ways.
 

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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2004, 09:09:41 PM »
Al Quaeda has 18 thousand.  Big whoopty doo.  North Carolina alone has about 3 million residents, and we're all rednecks with guns who hate muslims.  Bring on your 18 thousand.  The only problem I see, is in that scenario, only 1 out of 150 of us would get to kill one.  Do you think the Palestinians could send some over for us to kill too?  We're starting to get bloodthirsty with all this beheading trivial shit going on.  
 

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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2004, 09:33:08 PM »
19 Al Qaeda killed 3,030 injured 2,337 and that is without chem/bio weapons.
 

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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2004, 11:17:13 PM »
I don't care what reason its for. Terrorists are pussies. If I saw an Al Queda person I would blow his fuckin brain out.

Join the military then  :P

lol not gonna find many al quadia in iraq

only thing your gonna kill in the military are some angry iraqi muslim rebels.

it's still a better chance than one walking in the room when you're talking shit on a computer  ;)