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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2002, 10:50:33 AM »
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Why does all music have to be hard to be good in your mind?

And literature for that matter.


Mass Media always tries to pump up the soft, non-threatening ish, but any form of music that does not challenge the mind of the listener, any form of expression that overcompromises itself, becomes soft, spineless.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2002, 11:00:32 AM »
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Mass Media always tries to pump up the soft, non-threatening ish, but any form of music that does not challenge the mind of the listener, any form of expression that overcompromises itself, becomes soft, spineless.


Man, Don't you ever just want to sit down, enjoy the company of friends, and not have to worry about the Message music is getting across?
 

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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2002, 11:26:44 AM »
What kind of music do you consider "spineless"?
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2002, 11:35:51 AM »
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Man, Don't you ever just want to sit down, read a book and not have to worry about the Message music is getting across?


yeah, gangsta rap shit, I don't have to think or anything, I just lay back my seat in my ride, bump that shit full blast, and let my mind and conscience go free.
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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2002, 11:37:59 AM »
I think you'll find you can't read Doggystyle.
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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2002, 11:42:31 AM »
modern civilisation has meant that we don't have to be 'hard' anymore to survive. now it's about intelligence, and gangsta rap (as much as i know u'll dissagree) is a bunch of thick bastards talkin about how they gonna 'smoke' the next fool. when really 95% are all talk, and don't actually carry out the shit they say on wax!!!

like i said on aim, ur the kind of guy that beleives EVERYTHIN ras kass says. and likes to think everythin u were taught in school is wrong. basically ur like a 13 year old wanting to rebel against everythin/everyone.
shit ain't like that!
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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2002, 12:23:10 PM »
yall should check that video of mell gibson explaining and interprating Hamlet, thats pretty interesting.

Shakespear seems boring to me, however, if you look a little deeperin into some of his works....then u find it interesting..but u need to look deeper( thats the hard part)

i liked MAcbeth, that was my fav play

peace
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2002, 01:06:33 PM »
Dont skit the beatles, my own home town buddies.  They rock, they changed the way music was to be made and I think there record sales prove that. PEACE
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2002, 06:28:07 AM »
i havent read much skakespeare, but i kinda liked what i did read..

i read julius caesar and hamlet...

hamlet was definitly enjoyable to read i thought... julius casear didnt have my attention that much but i didnt like most books i read when i was in HS

i dunno what your problem is man.. well i do but its sad you have it... stop being such an attention craver... u say ur open minded you write posts like ur 13... u say u attack the idea but u attack it like an ignorant fool all u can say is fuck this fuck that....

whatever ur annoying...

and the beatles i also dont know too much about but i do know that DJ Quik Sampled them and so did knocturnal, eminem, calvin richardson, and thats just off the lil i know about them...

quik and eminem sampled 50 ways to leave your lover by paul mccartney....

and mj and paul mccartney made 2 pretty good songs together that i happen to like a lot... the girl is mine, and say say say
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2002, 04:19:55 PM »
Infinite, again, you have said one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard.  I can't believe you're so blind.  

Shakespeare was wack? hahaha.  All he wrote about was love? hahahaha.  Have you read ANY of his plays?  Good GOD you've got to be kidding me.  Read Romeo & Juliet.  On the surface, it's just a love story, right?  But it's also about two feuding families, and how they won't let their children associate with each other.  Sounds just like Palestine/Israel.  Read McBeth, and... oh, forget it.  You're just ignorant. One day when you're 50 , you'll read some shakespeare, and feel like an ass.

The Beatles invented rap.  Simple as that.  You wouldn't even HAVE music today if it wasn't for the beatles, everything would be blues or old school country.  The beatles were the ones with the balls to change music into expressing emotion and telling stories.  John lennon recorded the first ever diss song.  McCartney was the first to loop a drumbeat.  McCArtney pioneered Bass on recordings, before he complained about it, you couldn't even hear bass on recordings... he lowered the boom, it would have been impossible for rap to even exist without bass.  John Lennon had the first rapped/rhymed vocals ever.  Lennon had the first Distorted vocals ever on a track.  Paul was the first artist to play keyboards on an album.  George Harrison invented the Wah Guitar that made Funk.  Come on.  Tell me you're kidding me, saying the Beatles are wack.  Did I mention the beatles Pioneered Sampling?  Or that they were the first to do extensive multi-tracking, layering music together?  You should be ashamed of yourself.  
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2002, 06:41:44 PM »
SHIT ON ONCES AGAIN INFINITY :D
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2002, 07:29:11 PM »
I feel Like Ali going all out on a sparring partner.  Maybe we should dig up that Freestyle I ripped Infinite's ass on that time he called me out.  He keeps it up, and every time, I come out an inch taller and a whole lot swoller.
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2002, 07:07:36 AM »
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Infinite, again, you have said one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard.  I can't believe you're so blind.  

Shakespeare was wack? hahaha.  All he wrote about was love? hahahaha.  Have you read ANY of his plays?  Good GOD you've got to be kidding me.  Read Romeo & Juliet.  On the surface, it's just a love story, right?  But it's also about two feuding families, and how they won't let their children associate with each other.  Sounds just like Palestine/Israel.  Read McBeth, and... oh, forget it.  You're just ignorant. One day when you're 50 , you'll read some shakespeare, and feel like an ass.

The Beatles invented rap.  Simple as that.  You wouldn't even HAVE music today if it wasn't for the beatles, everything would be blues or old school country.  The beatles were the ones with the balls to change music into expressing emotion and telling stories.  John lennon recorded the first ever diss song.  McCartney was the first to loop a drumbeat.  McCArtney pioneered Bass on recordings, before he complained about it, you couldn't even hear bass on recordings... he lowered the boom, it would have been impossible for rap to even exist without bass.  John Lennon had the first rapped/rhymed vocals ever.  Lennon had the first Distorted vocals ever on a track.  Paul was the first artist to play keyboards on an album.  George Harrison invented the Wah Guitar that made Funk.  Come on.  Tell me you're kidding me, saying the Beatles are wack.  Did I mention the beatles Pioneered Sampling?  Or that they were the first to do extensive multi-tracking, layering music together?  You should be ashamed of yourself.  


I am proud to call you a friend!!!
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2002, 07:37:58 AM »
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Infinite, again, you have said one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard.  I can't believe you're so blind.  

Shakespeare was wack? hahaha.  All he wrote about was love? hahahaha.  Have you read ANY of his plays?  Good GOD you've got to be kidding me.  Read Romeo & Juliet.  On the surface, it's just a love story, right?  But it's also about two feuding families, and how they won't let their children associate with each other.  Sounds just like Palestine/Israel.  Read McBeth, and... oh, forget it.  You're just ignorant. One day when you're 50 , you'll read some shakespeare, and feel like an ass.

The Beatles invented rap.  Simple as that.  You wouldn't even HAVE music today if it wasn't for the beatles, everything would be blues or old school country.  The beatles were the ones with the balls to change music into expressing emotion and telling stories.  John lennon recorded the first ever diss song.  McCartney was the first to loop a drumbeat.  McCArtney pioneered Bass on recordings, before he complained about it, you couldn't even hear bass on recordings... he lowered the boom, it would have been impossible for rap to even exist without bass.  John Lennon had the first rapped/rhymed vocals ever.  Lennon had the first Distorted vocals ever on a track.  Paul was the first artist to play keyboards on an album.  George Harrison invented the Wah Guitar that made Funk.  Come on.  Tell me you're kidding me, saying the Beatles are wack.  Did I mention the beatles Pioneered Sampling?  Or that they were the first to do extensive multi-tracking, layering music together?  You should be ashamed of yourself.  


Good argument.  You brought up some good points.
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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2002, 08:56:51 AM »
lol

You admitted Trauma kicked your ass
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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2002, 10:03:12 AM »
lololo
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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2002, 01:29:01 PM »
I respect your opinion Infinite, but you seem to be lacking the knowledge in the subject. The reason Romeo & Juliet is seen as the greatest love story of all time is because it doesn't have a happy ending, much like how love is like in real life.


Also, much of Shakespeare's plays were NOT about love. Tell me the love story in Ceaser. Hell, in Taming of the Shrew, there's an underlying message that the best wife is the one kept in check.

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« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2002, 09:02:42 PM »
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lol

You admitted Trauma kicked your ass


Some people you can't win with.  Jay is another one of those people.  I even tell Trauma he brought up good points about the Beatles and Shakespeare and Jay still wants more from me.  I can't win with you, so your the type of person I would stay away from in life, unless I was forced to be around you like in a job, etc.
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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2002, 09:04:51 PM »
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I respect your opinion Infinite, but you seem to be lacking the knowledge in the subject. The reason Romeo & Juliet is seen as the greatest love story of all time is because it doesn't have a happy ending, much like how love is like in real life.


Also, much of Shakespeare's plays were NOT about love. Tell me the love story in Ceaser. Hell, in Taming of the Shrew, there's an underlying message that the best wife is the one kept in check.



I respect your opinion on the subject, but the Taming the Shrew thing you mentioned still falls under relationships, but still I respect your opinion.
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« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2002, 09:14:39 PM »
I myself didn't like readin shakespear but I learned to understand why he was suc ha great writer,....a lot of people dont undertsand those old words he used so a lot of us dunno what the fuck he is meaning lol....but in his words he does mean things...and they can be very deep and emotional..i learned some from ny english teacher this past year..his stories did take a lot of hard dedicated work...to me its not wack at all...its different because i'm not used to his ways of saying things so I can't relate...but after translated and finding out...u see how good he was/
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2002, 05:23:35 PM »
Here's some great Shakespearean Quotes, I'm in a shakespeare mood now.  This guy was a genius... honestly, a straight up genius.  Without a doubt, the greatest writer to ever live, some of this stuff is just straight beautiful.  He sounds like a mixture of John Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and Jesus Christ.  

"To thine own self be true" - Hamlet

"We know what we are, but know not what we may become" - Hamlet

By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes." - Macbeth

"How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world!"

"I could confine myself to a nutshell and declare myself king of infinity" - Hamlet (The G of G's)

If music be the food of love, play on." - twelfth night

There is no good, or bad, but thinking makes it so. " - Hamlet

"Et tu, Brute?" - Julius Caesar (The last words of Caesar, "And you too, Brutus?")

"We are such stuff as dreams are made on" - The Tempest

"The more fool,Madonna,to mourn for your brother's soul,being in heaven." - Twelfth Night

"A horse! My kingdom for a horse" - Richard III

"Cowards die many times before their deaths. The valiant never taste of death but once." - Julius Ceasar (Wow, that's true)

"Away! You are an ass; you are an ass." - Much ado about nothing (Shakespeare meets Infinite)

"Be not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness and some have greatness thrusted upon them." - Twelfth Night

Ophelia: "'Tis brief my lord." Hamlet: "As woman's love."" - Hamlet

Out damned spot, out I say!" - Macbeth (Macbeth, haunted by the thought of blood on his hands after murder)

"For in that sleep of death, What dreams may come when we Have shuffled off this mortal coil, May give us pause." - Hamlet

"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" - A Midsummer Night's Dream

And of course, Hamlet's Famous Soliloquy.  Infinite, you're pretty 'complicated', right? (LOL) then how can totally dismiss something as complicated as this:
    "To be, or not to be: that is the question:
     Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
     The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
     Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
     And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
     No more; and by a sleep to say we end
     The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
     That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
     Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
     To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
     For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
     When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
     Must give us pause: there's the respect
     That makes calamity of so long life;
     For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
     The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
     The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
     The insolence of office and the spurns
     That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
     When he himself might his quietus make
     With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
     To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
     But that the dread of something after death,
     The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
     No traveller returns, puzzles the will
     And makes us rather bear those ills we have
     Than fly to others that we know not of?
     Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
     And thus the native hue of resolution
     Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
     And enterprises of great pitch and moment
     With this regard their currents turn awry,
     And lose the name of action.-- Soft you now!
     The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
     Be all my sins remember'd."

     William Shakespeare
 

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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2002, 09:32:04 PM »
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"Away! You are an ass; you are an ass." - Much ado about nothing (Shakespeare meets Infinite)


LMFAO, i just found that hillarious

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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2002, 10:46:22 PM »
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Dont skit the beatles, my own home town buddies.  They rock, they changed the way music was to be made and I think there record sales prove that. PEACE


biritney spears, n'sync, backstreet boys etc etc also "changed the game" .. i think "their record sales proved it"  ::)
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« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2002, 10:49:06 PM »
and why dont i think that Beatles were "superb" ??

it was to much pop for me.. Beatles are the early generation of pop-bands... backstreet boys is the next generation
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« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2002, 06:12:39 AM »
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and why dont i think that Beatles were "superb" ??

it was to much pop for me.. Beatles are the early generation of pop-bands... backstreet boys is the next generation

no.  the differencer between tha beatles an pop groups of 2day r,  tha beatles actually played there own instruments,  wrote there own music.  
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