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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2002, 09:21:31 AM »
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no.  the differencer between tha beatles an pop groups of 2day r,  tha beatles actually played there own instruments,  wrote there own music.  


shakira writes her own music...
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« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2002, 09:25:45 AM »
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So?
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« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2002, 12:34:58 PM »
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So?


if beatles are good because they writes their ow lyrics, so is Shakira...
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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2002, 01:17:37 AM »
So all the keystylers who write their own lyrics are as good as the Beatles?

Good one man

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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2002, 03:10:12 AM »
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So all the keystylers who write their own lyrics are as good as the Beatles?

Good one man

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i was about the say that... 50'000 rappers gotta be as dope as beatles, cuz they write their own shit  ::)
 

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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2002, 07:09:06 AM »
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So all the keystylers who write their own lyrics are as good as the Beatles?

Good one man

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Actually yeah, I think the keystylers lyrics are iller then the Beatles.  John Lennon solo, "Imagine" was a well written song.  (not any better written then "Stan")

But give me a break songs like....

"It's been a hard day and night/
I've been workin like a dog/
It's been a hard day and night/
I should be sleepin like a log"

^^^^^^ Give me a fuckin break.
 

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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2002, 09:09:01 AM »
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and why dont i think that Beatles were "superb" ??

it was to much pop for me.. Beatles are the early generation of pop-bands... backstreet boys is the next generation


Man, you must not know crap about the beatles.  They were pop for the first 3 years of their career, then grew into something more advanced than has been seen since.  
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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2002, 09:23:05 AM »
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Actually yeah, I think the keystylers lyrics are iller then the Beatles.  John Lennon solo, "Imagine" was a well written song.  (not any better written then "Stan")

But give me a break songs like....

"It's been a hard day and night/
I've been workin like a dog/
It's been a hard day and night/
I should be sleepin like a log"

^^^^^^ Give me a fuckin break.


Yeah, Great Quote.  Lemme give you some Eminem lyrics, compared to some John Lennon lyrics, since we're gonna do it like that.  

Eminem: - "You.  Don't wanna Fuck With Shady.  
Cuz Shady.  Will Fuckin' Kill You. (Repeat, over and over).

And I am, whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news everyday I am
Radio won't even play my jam

Mentally illll from Amityvilllle (ILLLL)
Accidentally killll your family stillll
Thinkin he won't?  God-damnit he willll (HE'SSSS)
Mentally illll from Amityvilllle "

There, there's some of Eminem's fine work.

Here's some John Lennon, I'll let yall judge:

John Lennon - Across The Universe

Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup,
They slither while they pass, they slip away across the universe
Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my open mind,
Possessing and caressing me.
Jai guru de va om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.

Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes,
That call me on and on across the universe,
Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box they
Tumble blindly as they make their way
Across the universe
Jai guru de va om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.

Sounds of laughter shades of earth are ringing
Through my open views inviting and inciting me
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a
Million suns, it calls me on and on
Across the universe
Jai guru de va om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.

John Lennon - Revolution

You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

John Lennon - Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me.
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low.
That is you can't you know tune in but it's all right, that is I think it's not too bad.
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

Always, no sometimes, think it's me, but you know I know when it's a dream.
I think I know I mean a 'Yes' but it's all wrong, that is I think I disagree.
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.
Strawberry Fields forever.

John Lennon - Working Class Hero

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

If you want to be a hero well just follow me
If you want to be a hero well just follow me


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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2002, 11:15:20 AM »
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Yeah, Great Quote.  Lemme give you some Eminem lyrics, compared to some John Lennon lyrics, since we're gonna do it like that.  

Eminem: - "You.  Don't wanna Fuck With Shady.  
Cuz Shady.  Will Fuckin' Kill You. (Repeat, over and over).

And I am, whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news everyday I am
Radio won't even play my jam

Mentally illll from Amityvilllle (ILLLL)
Accidentally killll your family stillll
Thinkin he won't?  God-damnit he willll (HE'SSSS)
Mentally illll from Amityvilllle "

There, there's some of Eminem's fine work.

Here's some John Lennon, I'll let yall judge:

John Lennon - Across The Universe

Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup,
They slither while they pass, they slip away across the universe
Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my open mind,
Possessing and caressing me.
Jai guru de va om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.

Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes,
That call me on and on across the universe,
Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box they
Tumble blindly as they make their way
Across the universe
Jai guru de va om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.

Sounds of laughter shades of earth are ringing
Through my open views inviting and inciting me
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a
Million suns, it calls me on and on
Across the universe
Jai guru de va om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.

John Lennon - Revolution

You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

John Lennon - Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me.
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low.
That is you can't you know tune in but it's all right, that is I think it's not too bad.
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

Always, no sometimes, think it's me, but you know I know when it's a dream.
I think I know I mean a 'Yes' but it's all wrong, that is I think I disagree.
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.
Strawberry Fields forever.

John Lennon - Working Class Hero

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

If you want to be a hero well just follow me
If you want to be a hero well just follow me




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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2002, 11:47:57 AM »
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« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2002, 01:22:13 PM »
Woah thats some real ish. I've never been a Beatles fan because their music never appealed to me but i gotta give John Lennon credit for that.
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« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2002, 01:47:11 PM »
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Vote: Infinite's a twat


lol lol lolol

my vote Lennon, I am guna download them songs that Trauma mentioned.  
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« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2002, 06:29:20 PM »
Here's some more, he was a genius.

John Lennon - "Woman Is the Nigger of the World"

Woman is the nigger of the world
Yes she is...think about it
Woman is the nigger of the world
Think about it...do something about it

We make her paint her face and dance
If she won't be a slave, we say that she don't love us
If she's real, we say she's trying to be a man
While putting her down, we pretend that she's above us

Woman is the nigger of the world...yes she is
If you don't believe me, take a look at the one you're with
Woman is the slave of the slaves
Ah, yeah...better scream about it

We make her bear and raise our children
And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother hen
We tell her home is the only place she should be
Then we complain that she's too unworldly to be our friend

Woman is the nigger of the world...yes she is
If you don't believe me, take a look at the one you're with
Woman is the slave to the slaves
Yeah...alright...hit it!

We insult her every day on TV
And wonder why she has no guts or confidence
When she's young we kill her will to be free
While telling her not to be so smart we put her down for being so dumb

Woman is the nigger of the world
Yes she is...if you don't believe me, take a look at the one you're with
Woman is the slave to the slaves
Yes she is...if you believe me, you better scream about it

We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance

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Eminem has never said 1 thing as contraversial as that was back in 1973.

Or how about his diss song towards Paul McCartney, after the beatles broke up?

John Lennon - How Do You Sleep?

So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise
You better see right through that mother's eyes
Those freaks was right when they said you was dead
The one mistake you made was in your head
Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?
You live with straights who tell you you was king
Jump when your momma tell you anything
The only thing you done was yesterday
And since you're gone you're just another day
Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?

Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?

A pretty face may last a year or two
But pretty soon they'll see what you can do
The sound you make is muzak to my ears
You must have learned something in all those years
Ah, how do you sleep?
Ah, how do you sleep at night?

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Simple, but again, never been done before him.  He dissed Paul's Sgt. Pepper idea (Paul thought it wouldn't work, but it got big)... he dissed people saying Paul had died in a car accident, he dissed Paul's biggest beatles song, Yesterday, he dissed Paul's wife, LOL.  

John Lennon - Oh My Love (One of the most beautiful songs ever written)

Oh my love for the first time in my life
My eyes are wide open
Oh my lover for the first time in my life
My eyes can see
I see the wind, oh I see the trees
Everything is clear in my heart
I see the clouds, oh I see the sky
Everything is clear in our world

Oh my love for the first time in my life
My mind is wide open
Oh my lover for the first time in my life
My mind can feel

I feel the sorrow, oh I feel the dreams
Everything is clear in my heart
I feel life, oh I feel love
Everything is clear in our world

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John lennon - Mind Games

We're playing those mind games together
Pushing the barriers, planting seeds
Playing the mind guerrilla
Chanting the mantra, peace on earth
We all been playing those mind games forever
Some kinda druid dudes lifting the veil
Doing the mind guerrilla
Some call it magic, the search for the grail
Love is the answer and you know that for sure
Love is a flower, you got to let it, you got to let it grow

So keep on playing those mind games together
Faith in the future, outta the now
You just can't beat on those mind guerrillas
Absolute elsewhere in the stones of your mind
Yeah we're playing those mind games forever
Projecting our images in space and in time

Yes is the answer and you know that for sure
Yes is surrender, you got to let it, you got to let it go

So keep on playing those mind games together
Doing the ritual dance in the sun
Millions of mind guerrillas
Putting their soul power to the karmic wheel
Keep on playing those mind games forever
Raising the spirit of peace and love

Love...
(I want you to make love, not war, I know you've heard it before)

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Another Great song, with a great vocal

John Lennon - Nobody Told Me

Everybody's talking and no one says a word
Everybody's making love and no one really cares
There's Nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs
Always something happening and nothing going on
There's always something cooking and nothing in the pot
They're starving back in China so finish what you got
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed -- strange days indeed

Everybody's runnin' and no one makes a move
Everyone's a winner and nothing left to lose
There's a little yellow idol to the north of Katmandu
Everybody's flying and no one leaves the ground
Everybody's crying and no one makes a sound
There's a place for us in the movies you just gotta lay around

Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed -- most peculiar, mama

Everybody's smoking and no one's getting high
Everybody's flying and never touch the sky
There's a UFO over New York and I ain't too surprised

Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed -- most peculiar, mama

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Or how about this one, written 10 years after the beatles broke up, and after he retired from music to raise his son... he returned for one more album, then took a bullet to the head days after it was released.  This song's how I always remember him:

John Lennon - Watching The Wheels

People say I'm crazy
doing what I'm doing
Well they give me all kinds of warnings to save me from ruin
When I say that I'm o.k. well they look at me kind of strange
Surely you're not happy now you no longer play the game

People say I'm lazy dreaming my life away
Well they give me all kinds of advice designed to enlighten me
When I tell them that I'm doing fine watching shadows on the wall
Don't you miss the big time boy you're no longer on the ball

I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
I really love to watch them roll
No longer riding on the merry-go-round
I just had to let it go

Ah, people asking questions lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions
Well they shake their heads and they look at me as if I've lost my mind
I tell them there's no hurry
I'm just sitting here doing time

I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
I really love to watch them roll
No longer riding on the merry-go-round
I just had to let it go
I just had to let it go
I just had to let it go




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« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2002, 06:37:37 PM »
John Lennon - "God" (Written shortly after the beatles broke up)

God is a concept
By which we measure
Our pain
I'll say it again
God is a concept
By which we measure
Our pain
I don't believe in magic
I don't believe in I-ching
I don't believe in Bible
I don't believe in tarot
I don't believe in Hitler
I don't believe in Jesus
I don't believe in Kennedy
I don't believe in Buddha
I don't believe in Mantra
I don't believe in Gita
I don't believe in Yoga
I don't believe in kings
I don't believe in Elvis
I don't believe in Zimmerman
I don't believe in Beatles
I just believe in me
Yoko and me
And that's reality

The dream is over
What can I say?
The dream is over
Yesterday
I was the Dreamweaver
But now I'm reborn
I was the Walrus
But now I'm John
And so dear friends
You'll just have to carry on
The dream is over
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« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2002, 01:43:42 AM »
Dam I felt all that.  Dam R.I.P John.

Liverpool for ever!!!  Liverpool created music!!!
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Re: Shakespeare- the NSync and Beatles of Literatu
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2002, 03:47:29 AM »
I could never get myself to listen to any of that shit.
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« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2002, 04:08:47 AM »
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I could never get myself to listen to any of that shit.


Word... Chino XL is a better writer then the Beatles.  John Lennon wrote some good solo ish, but that wasn't even the argument in the beggining.  Still Chino XL would serve his ass.