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How should U.S. use their money on aid and military ? See post.

It's fucked up, more money to AID !!
6 (54.5%)
More money to war, $400 billion isn't enough
1 (9.1%)
Sounds right to me
2 (18.2%)
I don't really give a shit
2 (18.2%)

Total Members Voted: 8

  

Author Topic: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid  (Read 617 times)

Jome

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2004, 12:00:35 PM »
Jome, How am I ignorant?

Would you care to explain your reasoning that the individaul dollar amount donated counts "More" than the total dollar amount? I really wanna see your reasoning on this one.

You CAN NOT compare a country with 294 million people to small countries with 4 mill to 50 mill people!
If you divide the U.S. up in each state, you will have a better perspective.

U.K. + Germany + Italy + France + Holland + Sweden + Denmark + Norway + Ireland = 294 Million people.
Try putting those countries budgets together, and you have a country as big as U.S.

 

Woodrow

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2004, 12:08:29 PM »
Isn't that what you were trying to do?


I'm telling you that $333 per citizen is A LOT MORE than $46 per citizen.
Try comparing yourselves with Monaco or San Marino, I bet that will give Americans a real self esteem boost.. :) (At least until you divide down the numbers to make the comparison fair)


And U.S. does NOT rank high on the "Rich country responsibilities: Aid" statistics.
They might give the most totally, but if you divide it with "per capita", it's sad reading..  :-X

U.S.A. uses $46 per citizen for aid..
The top 5 aid contribution countries are:

1. Norway - $333 per citizen
2. Luxembourg - $316 per citizen
3. Denmark - $286 per citizen
4. Sweden - $207 per citizen
5. Netherlands - $196 per citizen
...
18. U.S. - $46 per citizen

U.S. is one of very few countries who actually use LESS money on Aid in 2002 than in 1990.. that should say something.
But some of you will rather use the money on war, instead of helping homeless and starving people with medications, food, etc. right.. ?


U.S. give $13.140 mill. to aid.
Norway give $1.517 mill. to aid.

U.S. have 65 times more citizens than Norway, yet U.S. only use 8,6 times more money on aid.
This means that Norway use 7.2 times more aid than U.S. per citizen.
Get it.. ?
 

Jome

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2004, 12:11:43 PM »
I officially give up on you Engel.
It's like me comparing Europes 727 million people with U.S. 294 million people,.. YAY we have more money!! Woo-hoo!!  :-X
 

Woodrow

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2004, 12:13:19 PM »
I officially give up on you Engel.
It's like me comparing Europes 727 million people with U.S. 294 million people,.. YAY we have more money!! Woo-hoo!!  :-X


How are you going to compare Europe with the United States?

In Europe there are how many different languages spoken? And it makes up how many countries?
 

Jome

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2004, 12:17:13 PM »
How are you going to compare Europe with the United States?

In Europe there are how many different languages spoken? And it makes up how many countries?

And how many languages in the States.. ?
English will get you a long way in 95% Europe, just like in U.S.

And U.S. makes up how many states (with different laws).. ?
I'm using fair comparisons, something you're not obviously not interested in.
 

Sikotic™

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2004, 12:32:59 PM »
How can you compare foreign aid and military spending. they are two different things.

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Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2004, 01:13:48 PM »
U.S. military budget 2004: $400 Billion.
U.S. official foreign aid: $13 Billion.

The military budget might (will probably) rise, dunno if it has already happened.


america can do whatever the fuck it wants...unless you live there..dont complain
 

Jome

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2004, 02:29:02 PM »
america can do whatever the fuck it wants...unless you live there..dont complain

Hmm.. I obviously hit a sore point..
I'm asking if you as a American think it's right to use $400 billion on war and $13 bill. on aid, but it seems like I struck a nerve..
Just don't answer if you don't have a opinion on it, or don't wish to explain.
 

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Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2004, 02:41:34 PM »
Engel if a millionaire has gives $20 dollars to a charity, and someone earning minimum wage gives $10 dollars, then while the figure may be more, the poorer person is giving more.  The US gives fuck all for what it earns.
 

Woodrow

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2004, 02:43:42 PM »
Engel if a millionaire has gives $20 dollars to a charity, and someone earning minimum wage gives $10 dollars, then while the figure may be more, the poorer person is giving more. 

But the millionare gave more didn't he?

Does the person on the recieving end of the charity really care how much the person that donated the money makes?


The US gives fuck all for what it earns.
Yeah?
http://www.aafrc.org/press_releases/trustreleases/americansgive.html

"American individuals, estates, foundations, and corporations gave an estimated $240.72 billion to charitable causes in 2003, according to Giving USA 2004, a study released by Giving USA Foundation."

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Jome

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2004, 02:47:38 PM »
Does the person on the recieving end of the charity really care how much the person that donated the money makes?

Yes, believe you me!
I seen homeless spit on politicians giving them $100 for clothes/food in front of the press to make themselves look nice.
But if a shabby looking dude with regular cheap clothes give them a $5, they're eternally thankful.
It's a pride issue.
 

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Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2004, 05:45:41 PM »
I don't believe in governmental foreign aid.  But I also don't believe in spending that much fucking money on the military at this time.  Is it really needed?  We really shouldn't be over there at his point.
 

Sikotic™

Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2004, 06:20:25 PM »
I wouldn't be complaining about any amount of aid given or donated because it's better than nothing.
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Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2004, 01:52:56 AM »
LOOK HERE IS HOW IT GOES RELATIVELY LESS MONEY IN FOREIGN AID THEN EUROPE AND THE REST OF THE DEVELOPED WORLD AND SPENDS RELATIVELY MORE ON THE MILITARY

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: U.S. military spendings VS. U.S. foreign aid
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2004, 10:42:55 AM »
so we give the most money total and we have the best military. we can help countries adequatly on both fronts, don't see the problem with that