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America has to make huge changes soon
« on: August 07, 2004, 09:13:17 PM »
we have big problems here in the US that are going to cause major problems within the next 10 years if solutions don't come up.  For one, its the economy and job market.  The gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and bigger.  The middle class is slowly dwindling.  Corporations and outsourcing are going to ruin the US.

Population will soon be a big problem.  I live in california.  Housing and traffic is already a huge problem.  The avg price for buying a shithole house in cali is $400,000.  Traffic is fuckin ridiculous.

So many american jobs have been lost to outsourcing.  America definately is a service country over a manufacturing country, but companies just want to save so much money in the bottom end so that a few individuals can make an extra buck.  Just the other day I was at Albertsons grocery store.  I had to wait in line so goddamn long.  They got like 8-10 registers in the store, but they only have 2 cashiers working.  and this is everyday.  the lines are so fuckin long.  The deli counter takes so fuckin long.  Its so ridiculous.  they even have self checkout lines now to keep from paying cashiers.

People in the bay area pay over $1000 a month for one room to rent.  and thats for a shithole ass place.  People drive up to 2 hours to go to work, because thats the best job they can get.  Education is bullshit.  So much wasted time in education.  A college degree is hardly worth shit anymore.

Anytime you wanna call up some company cause of a problem you usually gotta get their voice automated system.  Shit is so damn ridiculous.  Then when you finally get an actual human to talk to, its some goddamn foreiner from like India that can barely speak english.  You can't understand them, and they can't understand you.

Banks straight fuckin you over.  shit, some banks charge you for a goddamn checking account.  Thats so ridiculous.  Everyone wants you to get into debt.  So that you have to work your ass off the rest of your life.  Most police don't give a fuck about anything but harrassing people and being assholes.  People in america are so fuckin dumb they fall for anything and are so eazily brainwashed.  Just look at the Atkins diet and how it has affected so many people.

Sales people is like the biggest growing industry here.  Sales people are so goddamn annoying and scandelous.  People get fascinated with the stupidest tv shows, movies, and music.  Everything here is a fad.  Image is everything.  Hardly anyone ever thinks for themselves anymore.  I encounter so many fuckin stupid people everyday.  Insurance companies are fuckin bullshit.  They advertise to you like they are your fairy godmother but when something happens they give you the fuckin shaft.

I could go on and on.  and the best part:  the people on this forum (who I could eazily name, but won't) who are gonna stick up for all this shit.  Why?  cuz your fuckin stupid brainwashed people.  You don't think for yourself.  Same people that ain't gonna ever get anywhere in your lives.  Gonna be stuck in the same fuckin rut your whole life, and thinking its ok.  Now I don't hate America at all, but I do hate how it works right now.  And I don't think there will be a solution.  Money makes the world go round.  those who are rich don't wanna give up what they got.  Can I blame them?  No, not really.  Greed is a huge temptation.  I personally wouldn't do as many rich do, but thats just me.

Keep imprisonining, fuck education, waste money and resources, fuck everybody that ain't helping your cause, entertainment is the number one priority next to money, and do whatever it takes to get a buck  ::)
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2004, 09:22:20 PM »
Its Bushs fault ::)
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2004, 09:36:03 PM »
great fuckin post.  its much more than bushes fault.  but I know your so on his fuckin dick that you just jump to that assumption.  Take his nuts out your mouth for a second and read my post.  Not once did I mention that idiot.  Yeah, and where do you live, and how is your life?  How much money do you make a year?  How much time do you spend in traffic?  Have you even gone to college?  Lemme guess, your a schmuck just out of highschool with big fancy dreams.  Your in your first year of college, and whatever the fuck you are studying you have plans on graduating and immediately getting a job which makes you $60,000 a year to start off.  Lemme guess, you can't think for yourself, yet live in america, so you firmly believe in everything america does.

Let me add:  Don't bother answering to this thread if you are not older than 21.  I could care less about your people's opinon and I firmly believe you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
 

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2004, 10:04:55 PM »
I'll try to be respectable, and add a little perspective.

1.   "The Middle Class Is Dwindeling" ? Do you have anything to back that up, or is that just the party line you're towing this week?  It sounds like something from a Kerry/Edwards stump speech, and they don't know anything about the middle class because they're both multimillionaires, and in Kerry's case, a Billionaire.  So their opinion on the middle class is kind of useless to me.

2.  Population will be a problem? Move.  I live in North Carolina, there's no population problem here.  Leave Cali if the population is a problem.  Again, I live in Charlotte, it's a large city, and there's jobs everywhere. 

3.  You bitch about us losing 'so many jobs', well if they can do it cheaper over there, why shouldn't they?  That's just how it is.  You also bitched about having to check yourself out at the grocery store, and wait in line, etc.  Don't shop there.  They'll go out of business, and you can shop with the people who do it the right way. 

4.  Next, you bitched that the bay is a shitty place to live, you have to drive 2 hours to work, and you have to pay a grand a month to rent an apartment.  Again: MOVE.  Dude, I was living in WEST VIRGINIA as a child, my dad moved me the hell out of there to a place (Charlotte) with a strong economy.  MOVE if it's that bad.  Don't bitch, do something about it.

5.  You also found time to bitch about the education system.  If you feel you're wasting your time, don't go.  Simple as that.

6.  If you don't like the companies you do business with, don't do business with them.  Find smaller companies that care more about you as an individual consumer and see you as less of a number. 

7.  Banks have always charged for checking accounts, until recently, when many banks gave them away for free.  Now you're bitching that some still charge. 

8.  Everybody WANTS you to go in debt, but what do YOU want?  Do what YOU want, leave them to themselves.  You seem to realize it's bad to go in debt... ... so don't do it.  How is this a problem in your life? You need to relax, and take deeper breaths.  You're cracking up. 

9.  You're wrong about most cops wanting to be assholes and harassing people.  I haven't been pulled over by a cop in a year, and then the few times they did, I didn't even get a ticket. 

10.  How are people in America stupid?  As for the Atkins diet, the evidence that it's unhealthy is shaky, and the people weren't 'brainwashed', they were looking for a better life, it was optimism that made them subscribe to the diet, and I'm not going to call anybody an idiot for being an optimist. 

11.  If you don't like salespeople, don't buy anything, and they will cease to exist.  Capitalism.  Darwinism.  It's one of those two, maybe a mix of both.

12.  Don't follow fads, lol.  This is simple stuff, friend.  If you think fads are silly, watch the fools waste their lives on them, and don't do it yourself.  That's all you can do, man, you can't make people think like you do. 

13.  All your other little comments show me you're a pretty bitter person, but yet you think the ENTIRE COUNTRY is the problem. 



In conclusion: We're all idiots, brainwashed, stupid.... but you're the one who's unhappy. 
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2004, 10:05:43 PM »
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great fuckin post.  its much more than bushes fault.  but I know your so on his fuckin dick that you just jump to that assumption.  Take his nuts out your mouth for a second and read my post.  Not once did I mention that idiot.


When did i ever say that you tought its bushs fault? I said that because I  just know that someone is gunna say its Bush fault...


  Lemme guess, your a schmuck just out of highschool with big fancy dreams.  Your in your first year of college, and whatever the fuck you are studying you have plans on graduating and immediately getting a job which makes you $60,000 a year to start off.  Lemme guess, you can't think for yourself, yet live in america, so you firmly believe in everything america does.

1. I just turned 14 and I just finished Middle School
2. I live in Brazil, not USA
3. I only  beleive  50% of what america does.


 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2004, 10:16:50 PM »
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great fuckin post.  its much more than bushes fault.  but I know your so on his fuckin dick that you just jump to that assumption.  Take his nuts out your mouth for a second and read my post.  Not once did I mention that idiot.


When did i ever say that you tought its bushs fault? I said that because I  just know that someone is gunna say its Bush fault...


  Lemme guess, your a schmuck just out of highschool with big fancy dreams.  Your in your first year of college, and whatever the fuck you are studying you have plans on graduating and immediately getting a job which makes you $60,000 a year to start off.  Lemme guess, you can't think for yourself, yet live in america, so you firmly believe in everything america does.

1. I just turned 14 and I just finished Middle School
2. I live in Brazil, not USA
3. I only  beleive  50% of what america does.




your 14, don't reply to this post.  You have no idea what you are talking about.
 

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2004, 10:26:18 PM »
your 14, don't reply to this post.  You have no idea what you are talking about.

Why? Are you Stereotyping?

Just because most people my age are ignorant, those that necessarily mean I am?
 

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2004, 10:39:29 PM »
trauma see the thing about moving is,  some of us have spent our whole lives living there.  we lover where we live.  Some of us also come from places where shit is goin on 24/7.  You can move to charlotte but your not goin to get that.  Im from NYC an i kno anywhere else i go its goin to be boring as fuck compared to new york.  Some people like the never ending party.  Some people have children who have established roots where they live an they dont wanna up root there kid.  You makin moving sound so simple.  and if you want to meet asshole cops come to new york city.  Your opinion on cops will forever change.  Just see how it feels to get an undercover cop ride your bumping to make you nervous an speed up just so the cock sucker can give you a ticket to meet his quota.
 

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2004, 10:40:35 PM »
I'll try to be respectable, and add a little perspective.

1.   "The Middle Class Is Dwindeling" ? Do you have anything to back that up, or is that just the party line you're towing this week?  It sounds like something from a Kerry/Edwards stump speech, and they don't know anything about the middle class because they're both multimillionaires, and in Kerry's case, a Billionaire.  So their opinion on the middle class is kind of useless to me.

2.  Population will be a problem? Move.  I live in North Carolina, there's no population problem here.  Leave Cali if the population is a problem.  Again, I live in Charlotte, it's a large city, and there's jobs everywhere. 

3.  You bitch about us losing 'so many jobs', well if they can do it cheaper over there, why shouldn't they?  That's just how it is.  You also bitched about having to check yourself out at the grocery store, and wait in line, etc.  Don't shop there.  They'll go out of business, and you can shop with the people who do it the right way. 

4.  Next, you bitched that the bay is a shitty place to live, you have to drive 2 hours to work, and you have to pay a grand a month to rent an apartment.  Again: MOVE.  Dude, I was living in WEST VIRGINIA as a child, my dad moved me the hell out of there to a place (Charlotte) with a strong economy.  MOVE if it's that bad.  Don't bitch, do something about it.

5.  You also found time to bitch about the education system.  If you feel you're wasting your time, don't go.  Simple as that.

6.  If you don't like the companies you do business with, don't do business with them.  Find smaller companies that care more about you as an individual consumer and see you as less of a number. 

7.  Banks have always charged for checking accounts, until recently, when many banks gave them away for free.  Now you're bitching that some still charge. 

8.  Everybody WANTS you to go in debt, but what do YOU want?  Do what YOU want, leave them to themselves.  You seem to realize it's bad to go in debt... ... so don't do it.  How is this a problem in your life? You need to relax, and take deeper breaths.  You're cracking up. 

9.  You're wrong about most cops wanting to be assholes and harassing people.  I haven't been pulled over by a cop in a year, and then the few times they did, I didn't even get a ticket. 

10.  How are people in America stupid?  As for the Atkins diet, the evidence that it's unhealthy is shaky, and the people weren't 'brainwashed', they were looking for a better life, it was optimism that made them subscribe to the diet, and I'm not going to call anybody an idiot for being an optimist. 

11.  If you don't like salespeople, don't buy anything, and they will cease to exist.  Capitalism.  Darwinism.  It's one of those two, maybe a mix of both.

12.  Don't follow fads, lol.  This is simple stuff, friend.  If you think fads are silly, watch the fools waste their lives on them, and don't do it yourself.  That's all you can do, man, you can't make people think like you do. 

13.  All your other little comments show me you're a pretty bitter person, but yet you think the ENTIRE COUNTRY is the problem. 



In conclusion: We're all idiots, brainwashed, stupid.... but you're the one who's unhappy. 

good post, if you were really representing the avg american.  I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about the avg american which I encounter everyday.  I have no reason to argue with you.  I could waste my time typing up arguments, only to have you reply with arguemts and so on.  Neither one of us will give up.  I don't care if you agree with me or not.  Thats fine if you live the greatest life you can, I don't care.  We both have very different opinons on this stuff.  I live way differently than the avg american.  I respect your opinoin Trauma.  Your a smart person.  I don't agree with half of what you say, but I still respect your opinon.  The problem is that the avg american (or person) doesn't think the way I do, or the way you do.  I ain't bitching about myself, I'm bitching about what I see.  LMAO @ Albertsons going out of business.  Right, and cheveron will be next because they charge too much for gas.  Cops thing, you have no fuckin clue.  Your a white fuckin male.  None the less you feel you need to obey every single law whether its worthless or not.  Sure, your gonna say, well if you break the law then you deserve to get the penalty.  whatever.  you wouldn't know bout what I'm talking bout and I ain't gonna bother with you.

I never said the bay was a shitty place to live.  quit fuckin assuming.  I said the prices their are fuckin ridiculous.  and fuck movin to some shithole like north carolina.  I don't live in the bay, but I live very close nearby.  I know what the housing situation is like.  How close do you live?  oh, 3000 fuckin miles away?  Ok, talk to me when you fuckin know what your taking about.

Me bitching about companies I do business with?  Oh you mean like SBC?  Oh well, let me just go find another utility company.  Oh wait, there is none.

banking thing, well thats just you sticking up for everything cause your close minded.  Learn something about investing and banking then get at me.

I'm not the one going into debt.  I have no problems.  but america does.  pull your head out of your ass and realize this.  Just tell me that the avg american doesn't have a debt problem. hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha


You were exactly the person I knew would stick up for america for all this.  Tell me Trauma, how is your life?  How much money do you make a month?  How much do you work a week?  What kind of place do you live in?

I've read plenty of your posts. I know you got a degree in psychology.  and you work as a goddamn vendor operator.  How much did you spend on your education?  How much do you make a year?  A fuckin vendor operator!  Good thing you got that degree, I mean who could operate arcades w/o a degree in psychology?  And shit, you live such the great fuckin life, why you livin in North Carolina?  Must be so much better than livin in California, right?  You got different views than me, dumbshit.  I'd rather live in a way too expensive place in cali over anyplace in NC anyday.  And I guess telemarketers don't annoy you at all?  You don't mind when your in the middle of dinner and some idiot tries selling you some timeshare?  And I'm sure all your time in school was completely worthwhile right?  all 12 years of gradeschool were completely worthwhile right?  Thats probably why you are a fuckin vendor operator instead of a CEO right?
 

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2004, 10:44:44 PM »
your 14, don't reply to this post.  You have no idea what you are talking about.

Why? Are you Stereotyping?

Just because most people my age are ignorant, those that necessarily mean I am?

No, because you are dumb.  You honestly think you have more knowledge than me?  I'm 10 fuckin years older than you.  I have a highschool and a college degree.  I've lived outside my parents house.  I've traveled.  I 've held many jobs.  You are a young buck that don't know shit.  Don't take offense.  I didn't know shit when I was 14 either.  Barely anyone did, and anyone who said they did is tryna sell ya something.  You got to do a lot more experimenting in life.  Your a young buck that don't know shit.  take offence if you want.  Copy everything I typed in this thread and keep it.  read it in 10 years.
 

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2004, 10:47:45 PM »
  
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I have no reason to argue with you.  I could waste my time typing up arguments, only to have you reply with arguemts and so on.
 



Oh, ya? So explain this:
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never said the bay was a shitty place to live.  quit fuckin assuming.  I said the prices their are fuckin ridiculous.  and fuck movin to some shithole like north carolina.  I don't live in the bay, but I live very close nearby.  I know what the housing situation is like.  How close do you live?  oh, 3000 fuckin miles away?  Ok, talk to me when you fuckin know what your taking about.

Me bitching about companies I do business with?  Oh you mean like SBC?  Oh well, let me just go find another utility company.  Oh wait, there is none.

banking thing, well thats just you sticking up for everything cause your close minded.  Learn something about investing and banking then get at me.

I'm not the one going into debt.  I have no problems.  but america does.  pull your head out of your ass and realize this.  Just tell me that the avg american doesn't have a debt problem. hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha


You were exactly the person I knew would stick up for america for all this.  Tell me Trauma, how is your life?  How much money do you make a month?  How much do you work a week?  What kind of place do you live in?

I've read plenty of your posts. I know you got a degree in psychology.  and you work as a goddamn vendor operator.  How much did you spend on your education?  How much do you make a year?  A fuckin vendor operator!  Good thing you got that degree, I mean who could operate arcades w/o a degree in psychology?  And shit, you live such the great fuckin life, why you livin in North Carolina?  Must be so much better than livin in California, right?  You got different views than me, dumbshit.  I'd rather live in a way too expensive place in cali over anyplace in NC anyday.  And I guess telemarketers don't annoy you at all?  You don't mind when your in the middle of dinner and some idiot tries selling you some timeshare?  And I'm sure all your time in school was completely worthwhile right?  all 12 years of gradeschool were completely worthwhile right?  Thats probably why you are a fuckin vendor operator instead of a CEO right?[/
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2004, 10:53:47 PM »
I agree with the majority of the post. But it just ain't America heading that way. A huge portion of the world has to make changes sooner instead of later. Ignorance seems to be holding steadily around the world. People aren't that interested about anything beyond themselves anymore. Everyone is concerned with economy, war and capitalism and things like Education and Public health and just basic decency is being forgotten. This ignorance seems to plague humanity and its something we gotta fix. What amazes me is the individuals I've been surrounded by all seem decent, intelligent and open people. It seems like humanity as a whole has some problems.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2004, 10:56:26 PM »
 
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I have no reason to argue with you.  I could waste my time typing up arguments, only to have you reply with arguemts and so on.
 



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never said the bay was a shitty place to live.  quit fuckin assuming.  I said the prices their are fuckin ridiculous.  and fuck movin to some shithole like north carolina.  I don't live in the bay, but I live very close nearby.  I know what the housing situation is like.  How close do you live?  oh, 3000 fuckin miles away?  Ok, talk to me when you fuckin know what your taking about.

Me bitching about companies I do business with?  Oh you mean like SBC?  Oh well, let me just go find another utility company.  Oh wait, there is none.

banking thing, well thats just you sticking up for everything cause your close minded.  Learn something about investing and banking then get at me.

I'm not the one going into debt.  I have no problems.  but america does.  pull your head out of your ass and realize this.  Just tell me that the avg american doesn't have a debt problem. hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha


You were exactly the person I knew would stick up for america for all this.  Tell me Trauma, how is your life?  How much money do you make a month?  How much do you work a week?  What kind of place do you live in?

I've read plenty of your posts. I know you got a degree in psychology.  and you work as a goddamn vendor operator.  How much did you spend on your education?  How much do you make a year?  A fuckin vendor operator!  Good thing you got that degree, I mean who could operate arcades w/o a degree in psychology?  And shit, you live such the great fuckin life, why you livin in North Carolina?  Must be so much better than livin in California, right?  You got different views than me, dumbshit.  I'd rather live in a way too expensive place in cali over anyplace in NC anyday.  And I guess telemarketers don't annoy you at all?  You don't mind when your in the middle of dinner and some idiot tries selling you some timeshare?  And I'm sure all your time in school was completely worthwhile right?  all 12 years of gradeschool were completely worthwhile right?  Thats probably why you are a fuckin vendor operator instead of a CEO right?[/
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Yeah, you want an explanation:  You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.  You are 14 fuckin years old.  You still live with mommy and daddy.  You are not experienced.  Thats why I don't bother with you. 
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2004, 10:57:09 PM »
I agree with the majority of the post. But it just ain't America heading that way. A huge portion of the world has to make changes sooner instead of later. Ignorance seems to be holding steadily around the world. People aren't that interested about anything beyond themselves anymore. Everyone is concerned with economy, war and capitalism and things like Education and Public health and just basic decency is being forgotten. This ignorance seems to plague humanity and its something we gotta fix. What amazes me is the individuals I've been surrounded by all seem decent, intelligent and open people. It seems like humanity as a whole has some problems.

I agree, I just only have lived my life in America.  I don't know about other countries.
 

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2004, 11:07:39 PM »
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I agree, I just only have lived my life in America.  I don't know about other countries.
Wow you've travelled Domestically. Your really experienced!





Yeah, you want an explanation:  You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.  You are 14 fuckin years old.  You still live with mommy and daddy.  You are not experienced.  Thats why I don't bother with you. 
Oh what a great Irrelevant explanation. How does me being 14 have to do with  you saying someting then doing the opposite?


Just because I'm 14 years old I don't know shit? And how do you know? Was it because when you were 14 your were the most ignorant kid at the time, so you expect everyone to be just like how you were?


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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2004, 12:57:06 AM »
no I've been to another country.  stop posting in this thread.  you don't know shit.  I don't need to explain anything to you.  I just ask, stop posting in this thread.
 

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2004, 03:12:43 AM »
The youngest person to ever graduate a 4 year university was 10. :D
 

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2004, 03:46:43 AM »
Just because I'm 14 years old I don't know shit? And how do you know? Was it because when you were 14 your were the most ignorant kid at the time, so you expect everyone to be just like how you were?




Dude, you even proved you don't know jack shit about the world and you are ignorant like nobody else. Why do you keep defending yourself? Hector is right, a  14-year-old like you shouldn't discuss in this place. Just do yourself a favor and just read.

Ontopic: I'll make a post later when I have time to read :)
 

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2004, 05:13:02 AM »
trauma see the thing about moving is,  some of us have spent our whole lives living there.  we lover where we live.  Some of us also come from places where shit is goin on 24/7.  You can move to charlotte but your not goin to get that.  Im from NYC an i kno anywhere else i go its goin to be boring as fuck compared to new york.  Some people like the never ending party.  Some people have children who have established roots where they live an they dont wanna up root there kid.  You makin moving sound so simple.  and if you want to meet asshole cops come to new york city.  Your opinion on cops will forever change.  Just see how it feels to get an undercover cop ride your bumping to make you nervous an speed up just so the cock sucker can give you a ticket to meet his quota.

So, ultimately, your problems are because you refuse to leave a bad situation. 
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2004, 05:18:51 AM »
I'll try to be respectable, and add a little perspective.

1.   "The Middle Class Is Dwindeling" ? Do you have anything to back that up, or is that just the party line you're towing this week?  It sounds like something from a Kerry/Edwards stump speech, and they don't know anything about the middle class because they're both multimillionaires, and in Kerry's case, a Billionaire.  So their opinion on the middle class is kind of useless to me.

2.  Population will be a problem? Move.  I live in North Carolina, there's no population problem here.  Leave Cali if the population is a problem.  Again, I live in Charlotte, it's a large city, and there's jobs everywhere. 

3.  You bitch about us losing 'so many jobs', well if they can do it cheaper over there, why shouldn't they?  That's just how it is.  You also bitched about having to check yourself out at the grocery store, and wait in line, etc.  Don't shop there.  They'll go out of business, and you can shop with the people who do it the right way. 

4.  Next, you bitched that the bay is a shitty place to live, you have to drive 2 hours to work, and you have to pay a grand a month to rent an apartment.  Again: MOVE.  Dude, I was living in WEST VIRGINIA as a child, my dad moved me the hell out of there to a place (Charlotte) with a strong economy.  MOVE if it's that bad.  Don't bitch, do something about it.

5.  You also found time to bitch about the education system.  If you feel you're wasting your time, don't go.  Simple as that.

6.  If you don't like the companies you do business with, don't do business with them.  Find smaller companies that care more about you as an individual consumer and see you as less of a number. 

7.  Banks have always charged for checking accounts, until recently, when many banks gave them away for free.  Now you're bitching that some still charge. 

8.  Everybody WANTS you to go in debt, but what do YOU want?  Do what YOU want, leave them to themselves.  You seem to realize it's bad to go in debt... ... so don't do it.  How is this a problem in your life? You need to relax, and take deeper breaths.  You're cracking up. 

9.  You're wrong about most cops wanting to be assholes and harassing people.  I haven't been pulled over by a cop in a year, and then the few times they did, I didn't even get a ticket. 

10.  How are people in America stupid?  As for the Atkins diet, the evidence that it's unhealthy is shaky, and the people weren't 'brainwashed', they were looking for a better life, it was optimism that made them subscribe to the diet, and I'm not going to call anybody an idiot for being an optimist. 

11.  If you don't like salespeople, don't buy anything, and they will cease to exist.  Capitalism.  Darwinism.  It's one of those two, maybe a mix of both.

12.  Don't follow fads, lol.  This is simple stuff, friend.  If you think fads are silly, watch the fools waste their lives on them, and don't do it yourself.  That's all you can do, man, you can't make people think like you do. 

13.  All your other little comments show me you're a pretty bitter person, but yet you think the ENTIRE COUNTRY is the problem. 



In conclusion: We're all idiots, brainwashed, stupid.... but you're the one who's unhappy. 

good post, if you were really representing the avg american.  I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about the avg american which I encounter everyday.  I have no reason to argue with you.  I could waste my time typing up arguments, only to have you reply with arguemts and so on.  Neither one of us will give up.  I don't care if you agree with me or not.  Thats fine if you live the greatest life you can, I don't care.  We both have very different opinons on this stuff.  I live way differently than the avg american.  I respect your opinoin Trauma.  Your a smart person.  I don't agree with half of what you say, but I still respect your opinon.  The problem is that the avg american (or person) doesn't think the way I do, or the way you do.  I ain't bitching about myself, I'm bitching about what I see.  LMAO @ Albertsons going out of business.  Right, and cheveron will be next because they charge too much for gas.  Cops thing, you have no fuckin clue.  Your a white fuckin male.  None the less you feel you need to obey every single law whether its worthless or not.  Sure, your gonna say, well if you break the law then you deserve to get the penalty.  whatever.  you wouldn't know bout what I'm talking bout and I ain't gonna bother with you.

I never said the bay was a shitty place to live.  quit fuckin assuming.  I said the prices their are fuckin ridiculous.  and fuck movin to some shithole like north carolina.  I don't live in the bay, but I live very close nearby.  I know what the housing situation is like.  How close do you live?  oh, 3000 fuckin miles away?  Ok, talk to me when you fuckin know what your taking about.

Me bitching about companies I do business with?  Oh you mean like SBC?  Oh well, let me just go find another utility company.  Oh wait, there is none.

banking thing, well thats just you sticking up for everything cause your close minded.  Learn something about investing and banking then get at me.

I'm not the one going into debt.  I have no problems.  but america does.  pull your head out of your ass and realize this.  Just tell me that the avg american doesn't have a debt problem. hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha


You were exactly the person I knew would stick up for america for all this.  Tell me Trauma, how is your life?  How much money do you make a month?  How much do you work a week?  What kind of place do you live in?

I've read plenty of your posts. I know you got a degree in psychology.  and you work as a goddamn vendor operator.  How much did you spend on your education?  How much do you make a year?  A fuckin vendor operator!  Good thing you got that degree, I mean who could operate arcades w/o a degree in psychology?  And shit, you live such the great fuckin life, why you livin in North Carolina?  Must be so much better than livin in California, right?  You got different views than me, dumbshit.  I'd rather live in a way too expensive place in cali over anyplace in NC anyday.  And I guess telemarketers don't annoy you at all?  You don't mind when your in the middle of dinner and some idiot tries selling you some timeshare?  And I'm sure all your time in school was completely worthwhile right?  all 12 years of gradeschool were completely worthwhile right?  Thats probably why you are a fuckin vendor operator instead of a CEO right?


Damn man.  Ultmiately, you're a bitch, so i don't give a fuck how your life goes.  Keep crying in your cheerios, I'll keep having a great life.  What the fuck do you want, man? Who owes you a fucking thing? Go out, be a man, and get what you want, stop bitching about the world because the motherfucker is going to PASS YOU BY while you're waiting for the train to stop.  Fuckin' Bitchmade. 
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2004, 05:19:42 AM »
And HERE is your problem, Asshole.


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"You were exactly the person I knew would stick up for america for all this.  Tell me Trauma, how is your life?  How much money do you make a month?  How much do you work a week?  What kind of place do you live in?"

Grow the fuck up, 'my life' has nothing to do with 'my money'.  I thought Kindergarten kids knew that. 
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2004, 07:59:07 AM »
i do hate outsourcing.  Last week i called up sprint, and this indian dude starts talking to me. I swear every other sentence he spoke i had to ask him to repeat it.It just gives those million dollar companies more millions, while americans cant find jobs.  But i do with trauma to some degree. Sometimes you got to move to find a city with a better job market for your profession.
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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2004, 08:41:59 AM »
become a nurse, they won't outsource hospitals..... job problem solved
 

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Re: America has to make huge changes soon
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2004, 09:58:22 AM »
Hey great answer Trauma, way to back things up. 

Moving is not a solution.  thats just a small short term solution.  Just like us going to war with Iraq (in the very, very best scenario possible) is a short term solution to terrorism.  And like I said, for those who cant read right (Trauma), I not specifically talking about myself, I'm talking about the avg american.  I have many advantages over many many people, I'll survive.  but I look at the big picture and I see what goes on around me.  I could be like Trauma and just pretend everything in America is fine and dandy and we have no problems.  but that is not the reality, whether you wanna face it or not.