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Would you rather live in a diverse area or an area with only your people?

A Diverse Area
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An area with your race/nationality
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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2004, 09:10:01 PM »
That was just a possible theory of mine, I don't strongly believe that...But I do strongly believe that every girl is bi.
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2004, 09:25:53 PM »
Well, East Coast Girls Are Hip
I Really Dig Those Styles They Wear
And The Southern Girls With The Way They Talk
They Knock Me Out When I'm Down There

The Midwest Farmers Daughters
Really Make Me Feel Alright
And The Northern Girls With The Way They Kiss
They Keep Their Boyfriends Warm At Night

I Wish They All Could Be California Girls
I Wish They All Could Be California Girls

The Westcoast Has The Sunshine
And The Girls All Get So Tan
I Dig a French Bikini on Hawaiian Island dolls
by a Palm Tree In the Sand

I've Been All Around This Great Big World
And I've Seen All Kinds Of Girls
...but I Can't Wait To Get Back To The States
Back To The Cutest Girls In The World

I Wish They All Could Be California Girls
I Wish They All Could Be California Girls

Girls, Girls, Girls
Yeah, I Love them
Girls, Girls, Girls
Yeah, I Dig Them
Girls, Girls, Girls
Yeah, I Love Them
Girls, Girls, Girls
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #52 on: August 26, 2004, 09:44:13 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think it started when I tried to explain how the Toronto gay population wasn't as big as it seemed. The NIK claimed that all girls are bisexual, and it all went from there.

I still think it stems from society. The media makes it cool aand the playful nature in with each other makes it acceptable. I general girls are more affectionate with each other. Guys aren't because it isn't manly, but if it were seen as manly then I bet we'd see a lot more guys experimenting then we do now. That's my view on it anyway. Likw I said before, I could be wrong. Oh and as for what girls say NIK, c'mon man they're always ful of secrets and lies. Down right goddamn confusing most of hte time. I've seen girls act the exact same way around a guy they really like and want as they do a guy they hate and want to get rid of. From what I understand,they act like assholes to guys they like to figure out if the guy will run off easily or if he'll put in effort and they act like assholes around guys they hate to keep them away. How the fuck is anybody supposed to know which one it is with them? I'm not saying it's all girls, some are honest and tell it like it is, and some are just sluts and'll fuck whatever, but I have seen a lot of cases like the one I mentioned. Of course since leaving high school a few years ago I've seen less and less of this insane behaviour, but when I worked at a high school as an assistant teacher last year and the year before I saw it all again.


I don't associate with those types of females...The females I associate with are open, honest, and nice...If not, I don't give them a second chance. I guess, like you said, if male homosexuality was accepted, then we'd see a lot more guys doing gay stuff, and maybe even enjoying it. But since it's not like that, guys don't fantasize about guys, while girls do fantasize about girls, naturally...I guess everyone is born bisexual, and develop a sexual preference based on what is accepted, and what the media shows as sexy and right...That's why I believe all (or most) girls today are bisexual, and I don't think anything can change my mind about that.


Wait a minute here. No one is trying to change your mind. I just wanted to point out that I believe that their are factors that shape a persons sexuality and sexual desires. We grow up in a society where the playboy bunny is the most desirable. If we grew up in a society where the 300 hundred pound woman was the showcased object of desire then we would most likely be attracted to that. I think it all depends on what we are shown and presented in life and that dictates what we desire. Some might rebel against that and go for the opposite of what they are "supposed to", but one could argue that the guy who prefers fat chicks and does so because he refuses to conform would be the same guy who would love slim chicks if the fat chick was presented as the object of beauty. Also you said that you don't associate with foul minded girls. Therefore you wouldn't know what they prefer and could not make a logical claim for all girls. Now I'm not saying you're wrong, but you are wrong to say "all girls are.....". Just like I would be if I said something like that. The truth is we don't know "all girls" we only know a small fraction of all girls. If we were to survey all different types of girls then we could at least have something, but what you have is all the open, honest, and nice girls you know. So what you should say is "based on my observation I've come to the conclusion that most open, honest, and nice girls have bisexual desires". I don't mean to be a know it all or to try and teach you a lesson, I'm just speaking my mind. I don't mean to be offensive in any way.





Oh and 7even, you seem to have figured out the one question that has plagued philosophers for thousands of years; The meaning of life. You're amazing. I can't belive I've been wasting my time with Jesus all these years, I should be following you. The bottom line is don't claim to have a definate answer to a question that we as humans can never answer, or at least have never answered. It just makes you look stupid. We don't klnow the meaning of life. To all those that say it is to keep the race alive, one could simply ask; what would the point be if we aren't around to see it? Why should we work towards something we will not live to experience. Would it not be more practical to base one's life on self presevation, and in some cases having children that need to be raised could keep you from doing all that you can while you are here (of course depending on your life style children could be an asset, but also a liability). I'm not saying that the meaning of life is to live as long as you can while doing the least you can to acheive that, I'm just saying "I don't know". You should try it.
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #53 on: August 26, 2004, 09:46:30 PM »
Well, East Coast Girls Are Hip
I Really Dig Those Styles They Wear
And The Southern Girls With The Way They Talk
They Knock Me Out When I'm Down There

The Midwest Farmers Daughters
Really Make Me Feel Alright
And The Northern Girls With The Way They Kiss
They Keep Their Boyfriends Warm At Night

I Wish They All Could Be California Girls
I Wish They All Could Be California Girls

The Westcoast Has The Sunshine
And The Girls All Get So Tan
I Dig a French Bikini on Hawaiian Island dolls
by a Palm Tree In the Sand

I've Been All Around This Great Big World
And I've Seen All Kinds Of Girls
...but I Can't Wait To Get Back To The States
Back To The Cutest Girls In The World

I Wish They All Could Be California Girls
I Wish They All Could Be California Girls

Girls, Girls, Girls
Yeah, I Love them
Girls, Girls, Girls
Yeah, I Dig Them
Girls, Girls, Girls
Yeah, I Love Them
Girls, Girls, Girls



What do the lyrics to California Girls have to do with this? Great song, I just don't see the point.
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2004, 10:03:29 PM »
^ It seemed to fit since we were talking about all the diversity in california.

Anyways, in the renaissance, fat girls were considered the most attractive.  A fat woman was thought to be more desirable, because it related to a class that had enough wealth to eat well. 
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2004, 10:05:17 PM »
Yeah I figured you were but some may have taken it literally. There is a large Gay community here though. They have this big parade every year. But it isn't that big. I've lived here 22 years and I don't know one openly gay person, personally. There are a lot of bisexual girls here and there that I know but I think it's a phase they go through. The media shows lesbianism as being a lot cooler than homosexuality. I know a lot of girls that have tried it or at the very least thought about doing it. I can personally say it was never on any of my to do lists. I'm not a homophobe but I can't control th cringe in my spine evertime I think about it.


I believe all (or at least most) girls in the world are bisexual; some just keep to themselves... I've been able to get that out of almost every girl I've ever known. 8)

I.E., both his mom, AND his girlfriend. 
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2004, 10:45:26 PM »


^ It seemed to fit since we were talking about all the diversity in california.

Anyways, in the renaissance, fat girls were considered the most attractive.  A fat woman was thought to be more desirable, because it related to a class that had enough wealth to eat well. 

Yeah I know, just like in carribean countries a fuller body is more accepted and how in the 80s a really skinny supermodel was the girl of choice. I remember when a big ass was a bad thing. Since J Lo, it's the ass of choice. However I doubt that too fat was accepted. I don't know for sure and I 'm not going to pretend to but I always thought the renaissance era held slightly larger women as attarctive, not insanely obese. Also the higher class thing could also mean that the guys just wanted richer women and sacrificed what they sexually desired for social status. Just a thought.



And as for the Beach Boys song, I thought you were trying to tie it in to bisexuality amongst women. I didn't see how that have worked, however it works fine in the case of diversity. Sorry, I was just a little confused.
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #57 on: August 26, 2004, 10:58:06 PM »


Wait a minute here. No one is trying to change your mind. I just wanted to point out that I believe that their are factors that shape a persons sexuality and sexual desires. We grow up in a society where the playboy bunny is the most desirable. If we grew up in a society where the 300 hundred pound woman was the showcased object of desire then we would most likely be attracted to that. I think it all depends on what we are shown and presented in life and that dictates what we desire. Some might rebel against that and go for the opposite of what they are "supposed to", but one could argue that the guy who prefers fat chicks and does so because he refuses to conform would be the same guy who would love slim chicks if the fat chick was presented as the object of beauty. Also you said that you don't associate with foul minded girls. Therefore you wouldn't know what they prefer and could not make a logical claim for all girls. Now I'm not saying you're wrong, but you are wrong to say "all girls are.....". Just like I would be if I said something like that. The truth is we don't know "all girls" we only know a small fraction of all girls. If we were to survey all different types of girls then we could at least have something, but what you have is all the open, honest, and nice girls you know. So what you should say is "based on my observation I've come to the conclusion that most open, honest, and nice girls have bisexual desires". I don't mean to be a know it all or to try and teach you a lesson, I'm just speaking my mind. I don't mean to be offensive in any way.





That's why I said all OR MOST...Maybe it's just the way most of the females around here are, but I watch Howard Stern and those type of interview shows, and when Howard Stern interviews most of the girls from any country, the girls all talk about their desires, fantasies, and experiences with other women...The girls I know that wont admit their bi, are the same girls that you can tell wouldn't admit it even if they were...Maybe I'm just babbling on, but I strongly believe in my theory...PeACe
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2004, 11:00:29 PM »
Yeah I figured you were but some may have taken it literally. There is a large Gay community here though. They have this big parade every year. But it isn't that big. I've lived here 22 years and I don't know one openly gay person, personally. There are a lot of bisexual girls here and there that I know but I think it's a phase they go through. The media shows lesbianism as being a lot cooler than homosexuality. I know a lot of girls that have tried it or at the very least thought about doing it. I can personally say it was never on any of my to do lists. I'm not a homophobe but I can't control th cringe in my spine evertime I think about it.


I believe all (or at least most) girls in the world are bisexual; some just keep to themselves... I've been able to get that out of almost every girl I've ever known. 8)

I.E., both his mom, AND his girlfriend. 


Grow up...You don't see me posting about how I know you used to fuck your daddy, even though you're so easy to clown, being Mormon and all.
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2004, 07:29:51 AM »
Oh and 7even, you seem to have figured out the one question that has plagued philosophers for thousands of years; The meaning of life. You're amazing. I can't belive I've been wasting my time with Jesus all these years, I should be following you. The bottom line is don't claim to have a definate answer to a question that we as humans can never answer, or at least have never answered. It just makes you look stupid. We don't klnow the meaning of life. To all those that say it is to keep the race alive, one could simply ask; what would the point be if we aren't around to see it? Why should we work towards something we will not live to experience. Would it not be more practical to base one's life on self presevation, and in some cases having children that need to be raised could keep you from doing all that you can while you are here (of course depending on your life style children could be an asset, but also a liability). I'm not saying that the meaning of life is to live as long as you can while doing the least you can to acheive that, I'm just saying "I don't know". You should try it.

Dont try to front, cause that makes you  look stupid right now.
You ask why should we work towards something we will not live to experience... I answer: there's no reason, you can kill yourself, wont matter much in the end. youre not that special. the world can do without you. and yes, the human race will die out sooner or later, just like the dinosaurs did. those things do happen.
you say "I dont know". wow, now that makes you of course lookin smarter than me. not thinking about things is always the easiest way. and further, it's not my way. still, I let you be the agnostic person that you want to be, you do your thing I do mine, in the end all that matters that we both die in the end.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2004, 08:25:51 AM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I asked that question rehtorically. I wasn't actually looking for an answer. Just because I say "I don't know" doesn't mean I never think about it. The problem    I had with what you said was that you made it seem like the answer was obviously we live to pro create, and then you completely discounted NIK's theory that we are born bi sexual based on your answer. Now if what you said just came across wrong and you meant it as a theory then I apologize, but if not then I don't. I say "I don't know", because we don't "know", and that's that. This doesn't mean I don't want you to think about it, this just means I think it's wrong for you to think about it come to a conclusiion and then present that solution as the definitive answer. Just like we don't "know" the human race will eventually die out. We cannot predict the future. It is a very strong theory but ultimately that is all it is. Who knows what could happen in the future and keeps us alive as a species?
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2004, 08:44:47 AM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I asked that question rehtorically. I wasn't actually looking for an answer. Just because I say "I don't know" doesn't mean I never think about it. The problem    I had with what you said was that you made it seem like the answer was obviously we live to pro create, and then you completely discounted NIK's theory that we are born bi sexual based on your answer. Now if what you said just came across wrong and you meant it as a theory then I apologize, but if not then I don't. I say "I don't know", because we don't "know", and that's that. This doesn't mean I don't want you to think about it, this just means I think it's wrong for you to think about it come to a conclusiion and then present that solution as the definitive answer. Just like we don't "know" the human race will eventually die out. We cannot predict the future. It is a very strong theory but ultimately that is all it is. Who knows what could happen in the future and keeps us alive as a species?

well, I think you take it too far.
By your choice, Im not even allowed to say that in December, the Olympics in Athens 2004 will already be over. Because I dont "know". I cant predict the future. From now on, we should all make a theory out of everything we say aight? K.
My theory  is that the meaning of life is to reproduce to keep ones race alive. Or let us be politically correct, like you obviously prefer it, and say species instead of race. That's also the reason why things like "love" emerged. Since humans are weak as hell after they're born and cant do shit on their own, the parents have to stay together for a while until their children are old as hell (unlike other animals). That's why your brain gives you the impulse that you "love" somebody, and want to be with that person for a very long time, maybe even the rest of your life.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2004, 09:49:59 AM »
I'm sorry if I come across as being close minded or stubborn. I just thought it was wrong for you to say we "can't" be born bisexual because the meeaning of life goes against that. As for the olympics being over by december, one could very well say that based on experience. We have seen many olympics and every one of them were over with in a few weeks. We've only really know about one major extinction and we (scientists) can't even agree on what caused it. We are pretty sure that the dinosaurs did not have the technology we have and will probably have in the future, so it is safe to at least assume we could be more prepared for something drastic happening to our world and survive it. If something drastic even happens. We have no evidence to show it will happen. With the summer games we have evidence that no olympics in recorded history have gone through the entire fall and into december, so it is safe to assume that this year's games won't either.
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2004, 03:29:22 AM »
That's why your brain gives you the impulse that you "love" somebody, and want to be with that person for a very long time, maybe even the rest of your life.


I dunno, but whatever love is, it's good...Isn't it better to have someone that you care for, who can help you out and be there for you, rather than to just be all alone?
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2004, 05:31:20 AM »
That's why your brain gives you the impulse that you "love" somebody, and want to be with that person for a very long time, maybe even the rest of your life.


I dunno, but whatever love is, it's good...Isn't it better to have someone that you care for, who can help you out and be there for you, rather than to just be all alone?

Yea of course love is one of most beautiful things in the world. Still it has its kind of scientific and therefore maybe disappointing origin... but that doesnt kill love for me. Just because I believe to know it's all in the brain for survival reasons, that doesnt make me an unloving person or a person that hates everybody. Further, I also assume that "hate" emerges due to an impulse in the brain as a sort of protection-related thingy. Most of the time, ppl hate things/other ppl because they dont know enough about it or because they had a/many bad experience(s) with it, or heard bad things about it. So they intend to protect themselves of it. Dont get too close dont make friends and maybe retaliate or kill the enemy is the result.
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Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2004, 11:59:20 PM »
Eventhough i enjoy living in a diverse area, i would like to live in an area with people of my nationality, simply because i find that i'm more comfortable because of common mentality, simillar sense of humor, and morals. Unfortunately many people of my nationality (the ones in America) are not on my level intellectually (not trying to brag, but it's true). But then if there were more itelligent people of my nationality i'd love to live in that kind of environment.
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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #66 on: September 05, 2004, 04:58:22 AM »
Eventhough i enjoy living in a diverse area, i would like to live in an area with people of my nationality, simply because i find that i'm more comfortable because of common mentality, simillar sense of humor, and morals. Unfortunately many people of my nationality (the ones in America) are not on my level intellectually (not trying to brag, but it's true). But then if there were more itelligent people of my nationality i'd love to live in that kind of environment.

may I ask to which bright-ass nationality you belong?
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2004, 04:22:47 PM »
He's Armenian.
 

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Re: A poll just out of curiosity...
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2004, 04:38:43 PM »
i like me a fat chick