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93% of Al Jazeera viewers support Kidnappings/Beheading in Iraq.
« on: September 24, 2004, 08:17:24 AM »
LONDON The beheadings of two Americans in Iraq this week have been treated as unwelcome developments in the Arab press, but the concern has been more for the image of Muslims than for the victims.
   
Most organizations continued to cast the outrage as a small part of a wider conflict in which the United States is seen as the prime culprit.
   
"There has been little sign of the outrage that greeted the kidnapping of two French hostages last month and none of the soul-searching prompted by the ... siege" at a school in Beslan, Russia, said Sebastian Usher, who monitors the Arab media for the British Broadcasting Corp.

A survey of the Arabic press in the past few days found that almost all reported the kidnappings of two Americans and a Briton and the Internet posting of statements and videotapes depicting the grisly killings of the two Americans. Appeals for mercy from the family of British hostage Kenneth Bigley also were widely reported.
   
But in most cases, the stories were quickly overtaken by extensive and colorful reports of bloodshed elsewhere in Iraq or in the Palestinian territories.
   
Al Jazeera, the most widely watched Arabic television channel, conducted a telephone poll during its top debating program, the Other Direction. In it, 93 percent of viewers said they approved of kidnapping foreigners in Iraq even though by then, one of the two American hostages had been decapitated.
   
In Baghdad, law professor Adnan al-Jabbari described the beheadings in a telephone interview as "a distortion of Islam."
   
"There should be organized demonstrations against these acts," she said. "But there has also been violence against those who speak out, and that's why many people are afraid."
   
Laborer Mohammad Jassem, however, defended the right of Iraqis to kill and terrify Americans and those who work with them.
   
"Who told them to come here and sell our fortunes?" he asked. "I would not only kill an American, I would slaughter him and drink his blood. We'll never forget what the Americans have done to us. ...
   
"Every honorable Iraqi approves of killing Americans and beheading them. They should get out of our country."
   
The debate on Al Jazeera, which did not poll viewers on beheading as a tactic, featured a fiercely anti-American political analyst, Talat Rumayh, alongside a moderate Iraqi politician, Karim Badr.
   
Mr. Rumayh described the kidnappers as Iraqi resistance fighters and complained that too much emphasis was put on the relatively small number of hostage killings.
   
"Two thousand people have been killed since the beginning of the attack on Fallujah, which is dismissed in one report, one line or just a couple of words ... while we keep hearing about the hostages. It's the hostages and the terrorists, always the terrorists," he said.
   
Mr. Badr retorted that all of Iraq was disgraced by the beheadings.
   
"We have to prove our humanity. I am addressing my brethren in Iraq: These are masked creatures that resemble humans, who I am certain are uglier than their deeds," he said.

"Is the kidnapping and murder of people in this manner an act of resistance? I am certain they do not represent the Iraqi conscience in any way at all."
   
Al Watan, the official newspaper of the Qatar government, which hosts the U.S. Central Command, condemned the kidnappings.
   
"The Muslim world should adopt a moderate attitude towards Islam and curb militants who are distorting Islam's image," it said.
   
But Egypt's semi-official Al Ahram newspaper turned the blame onto the Bush administration.
   
"The main reason behind this phenomenon is the foreign occupation of the country," it said. "It has brought to the country a circle of chaos and instability."
   
The Egyptian daily Al-Akhbar noted the same "underlying" cause but suggested that hostage-taking was counterproductive.
   
"The occupation forces have not managed to bring peace and security to the country," it wrote. "As for the groups in Iraq which claim Islam and raise Islamic banners, they should stop their abductions. They should show charity in not tarnishing Muslims' reputation."
   
The Algerian newspaper Echourouk el-Youm took a tough line, saying, "For Arabs to focus their debate on crying over foreigners' abductions rather than rallying around the Iraqi resistance is a strong indication that the American policy to uproot the resistance is working."
   
But other Arab newspapers reported that an imam in Liverpool, England, home city of Mr. Bigley, had joined with a Christian leader there in appealing to the kidnappers to imitate Allah's "all merciful" quality and spare the remaining hostage's life.
   
Borzou Daragahi contributed to this report in Baghdad.

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2004, 11:00:01 PM »
and ur point being? are really that shocked from this? get over it, Middle Easterns will always be pissed off towards alot of things they believe in. I dont blame them, if i wuz decieved enough to the point they are at, id be one of those damn people that think the beheadings are good. Plus those beheadings dont make up for the innocent women who get raped, the kids killed for fun. but yet no one seems to hear the cries of the Iraqi people when that happens....but when a beheading happens from Iraqi....holy hell....gimme a break.
btw i do understand the beheading are fudged up and unnecassary.....but isnt everything on both sides of the war?
 

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2004, 01:36:37 AM »
I really can't blame them in this situation either.
 

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2004, 02:13:51 AM »
I really can't blame them in this situation either.

Why?

Was it America that provided the fire for Jihads from the early 7th century to 1948? Defending this despicable behavior only emboldens this type of rhetoric.

Would you be saying the same shit if 93% of Americans supported kidnapping and beheadings?
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2004, 02:27:23 AM »
I really can't blame them in this situation either.

Why?

Was it America that provided the fire for Jihads from the early 7th century to 1948? Defending this despicable behavior only emboldens this type of rhetoric.

Would you be saying the same shit if 93% of Americans supported kidnapping and beheadings?


Not at all. As a matter of fact, I'm totally against it. It's just that when people are upset with the way things are going or the way things are run, they tend to be all for rebellion. I'm definitely not condoning the beheadings or suicide bombings.
 

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2004, 07:24:57 AM »
If America went through the same bullcrap these people have to deal with and 93 percent of them supported it, i still wouldnt be shocked.
 

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2004, 08:37:19 AM »
This isn't really suprising, Al-Jazeera itself is a terrorist organization. I read their English language website every day and their coverage is so blatant and biased it is digusting. For example, when those hostages were beheading this week, instead of running headlines like "extremists behead civilians in Iraq " they ran headlines like "family of beaheaded hostages blame British government for not doing enough" as if the blame les with the british government. Their entire website consists solely of articles trying to degrade anything to do with the West while completely overlooking anything that makes Arabs look bad (for example nothing on genocide in Sudan).
 

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2004, 03:09:30 PM »
wow then i guess al jazeer has alot in common with american media. welcome to this thing called Life. get over it.
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2004, 03:15:51 PM »
93% of Al Jazeera viewers are terrorists
 

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2004, 05:30:45 PM »
wow then i guess al jazeer has alot in common with american media. welcome to this thing called Life. get over it.
Care to elaborate? I hope youre not implying that 93% of American television viewers support killing innocent people.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2004, 09:11:39 PM »

Most organizations continued to cast the outrage as a small part of a wider conflict in which the United States is seen as the prime culprit.


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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2004, 06:07:08 PM »
They got their warnings...Leave or Die <---Sounds fair to me.


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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2004, 08:22:30 PM »
Im saying the way the middle eastern News potrays American things as always bad, the American Media does it to. well towards middle eastern and muslim people.
 

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2004, 09:05:05 AM »
oh shit, i just caught this


"fires of jihad from 7th century to 1948" LOL
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2004, 09:23:09 AM »
oh shit, i just caught this


"fires of jihad from 7th century to 1948" LOL
So who was behind the violent Jihad in those times?
 

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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2004, 03:26:34 PM »
wow then i guess al jazeer has alot in common with american media. welcome to this thing called Life. get over it.
Care to elaborate? I hope youre not implying that 93% of American television viewers support killing innocent people.

maybe not 93 but 50% or more do. Considering the deaths in iraq are mainly innocent people.
 

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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2004, 03:41:32 PM »
wow then i guess al jazeer has alot in common with american media. welcome to this thing called Life. get over it.
Care to elaborate? I hope youre not implying that 93% of American television viewers support killing innocent people.

maybe not 93 but 50% or more do. Considering the deaths in iraq are mainly innocent people.
So you think 50% of Americans support the killing of innocents??

You sir are a moron.
 

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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2004, 03:48:27 PM »
well the innocent to "terrorist" ratio is probably 10-1. i guess im a moron because i realize 50% of americans favor the bombing of innocent iraqis daily. Maybe when you decide to pick up the dead childrens bodies in the roads of iraq and still favor the war. you can then call me a moron.
 

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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2004, 03:55:26 PM »
well the innocent to "terrorist" ratio is probably 10-1. i guess im a moron because i realize 50% of americans favor the bombing of innocent iraqis daily. Maybe when you decide to pick up the dead childrens bodies in the roads of iraq and still favor the war. you can then call me a moron.

So if CNN held a poll, asking if Americans favored killing innocent people, You REALLY think 50% would respond yes?

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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2004, 03:58:44 PM »
 

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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2004, 04:00:13 PM »
how about a poll of "how many americans support the war in iraq". considering the war in iraq is killing more innocent then bad. maybe a lot of americans are idiots like yourself.
 

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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2004, 04:01:29 PM »
we are fighting terrorism.. or did u forget :)
 

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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2004, 04:05:33 PM »
how about a poll of "how many americans support the war in iraq". considering the war in iraq is killing more innocent then bad. maybe a lot of americans are idiots like yourself.
So you equate the war in Iraq with supporting the deliberate kidnapping and beheading of innocent civilians?
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2004, 04:07:17 PM »
i realize that, but i fail to see how 20,000+ dead innocent iraqis and 1000+ dead americans is worth it.
 

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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2004, 04:08:46 PM »
i realize that, but i fail to see how 20,000+ dead innocent iraqis and 1000+ dead americans is worth it.

Am I in the wrong thread??

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought we were talking about how 9 out of 10 AL Jazerra Viewers support the deliberate killing of innocent civilians.