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What are your views on them and the special treatment they get?

Do you think it's right that they get to live on Reserves where there is basically no laws, they don't pay taxes and get tons of free stuff.
 

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Re: Native North Americans (Indains, First Nations or whatever).......
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2004, 06:42:27 PM »
What are your views on them and the special treatment they get?

unfair. Let's look at it this way, when a white person wants to die, they have to go out there way and find someone to kill them. We just had it where the white man came to us and killed us all. Frankly, I think we got the better end of it. I mean, who needs a whole tribe of people that we had, I mean the 19 people of my tribe still alive, that's plenty of people to carry on our traditions once held by hundreds of thousands.

Do you think it's right that they get to live on Reserves where there is basically no laws, they don't pay taxes and get tons of free stuff.

The reservation is great. (I've actually been to reservations many many times) I mean, before casinos, there was a bunch of beat up old houses out in the middle of the desert. I mean, lets face it, the white men lost out, they forced into some great land. I heard stories that when the old natives tried to grow on the reservations, they couldn't grow a damn thing. Then check this out, when they tried to leave, the military was sent to put them back in, or kill them, whichever was easier. Of course the government kick down free food, and it was the best food you can get. I remember as a kid going to visit my mom's people in the reservation, and they had powdered milk, government cheese, and some really old pasta, and basically I thought it was cool because it was all government surplus food. God damn those casino, now natives can buy there own food. I mean, now I go there and the shacks are replaced by nice houses, and you see the natives have gained weight. I always thought we were suppose to stay skinny. Whoever heard of a chunky native. If no one in this country has a weight problem, then why should the natives. And why did we agree to be a solvergn nation. I mean, many years ago, they said we had freedoms in our tribes, as long as we stayed in them. I figure that they should have just ruled us in our own tribes too. Hell, they killed us and forced us to stay in the most unfertal land in this country, the least they could have done is took away our freedoms to be our own people. But I mean, the United States has given us such a special treatment.
 

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Re: Native North Americans (Indains, First Nations or whatever).......
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2004, 06:52:19 PM »
Nati ve americans got fucked.. and people need to stop callin them indians
 

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Re: Native North Americans (Indains, First Nations or whatever).......
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2004, 06:58:40 PM »
What are your views on them and the special treatment they get?

Do you think it's right that they get to live on Reserves where there is basically no laws, they don't pay taxes and get tons of free stuff.

is this another anti jew thread?
 

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Re: Native North Americans (Indains, First Nations or whatever).......
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2004, 07:04:51 PM »
They definitely get mistrated even until this day. That's the only reason I don't make a fuss about the reservations, that's the one positive thing going for them, they don't have to pay taxes.
 

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Re: Native North Americans (Indains, First Nations or whatever).......
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2004, 08:02:54 PM »
What are your views on them and the special treatment they get?

Do you think it's right that they get to live on Reserves where there is basically no laws, they don't pay taxes and get tons of free stuff.

is this another anti jew thread?

who's anti-jewish?



Anyway, I think it's time they integrate into society and live by the rules we all do.  We've adopted parts of their culture:









 so why can't they adopt parts of ours?  I think we should all be equal, it's been 200 years.  It's not really a big deal because it doesn't really affect me, but It's just something I don't understand.  Maybe I just can't put myself in their shoes.  I dunno.
 

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2004, 09:07:55 PM »
maybe I'll edumacate myself on this situation. 
 

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2004, 09:09:10 PM »
They should be treated like every other citizen.  It's complete bullshit the special treatment they get.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2004, 09:11:04 PM »
leave them the fuck alone yall whites already fucked with them back in the old days just let them be...
 

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2004, 09:22:29 PM »
I don't really give a shit one way or the other what kind of treatment they get, to tell you the truth.  There's only like, what, 5 of them left? 
 

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2004, 09:23:22 PM »
Oh, and thank GOD for Christopher Columbus.  Happy Columbus Day!
 

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Re: Native North Americans (Indains, First Nations or whatever).......
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2004, 09:29:30 PM »
I don't really give a shit one way or the other what kind of treatment they get, to tell you the truth.  There's only like, what, 5 of them left? 

There's tons of them in The North West.  They kill whales and shit. 
 

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2004, 09:45:09 PM »
Damn, that's pretty impressive. 


Lessay just for jokesies that I get the bright idea to go kill a fucking WHALE.  How exactly do you go about that?  First, you have to find them . They don't come near the land.  So you'd need a boat.  Then, you'd have to know how to track whales down, and find them... because the ocean's pretty fucking big.  Where would the whales be? I dunno, I've never seen one outside of SeaWorld.  So, that would be a challenge.

Next, if you found the whale, how would you kill it?  Would you just shoot at it?  How do you know where to shoot? If you DO kill it, what do you do with it? You can't lift it.  Maybe you could drag it back to the beach.... but THEN what would you do with it?

Seems like a lot of fucking trouble.  These indians must be pretty damn intelligent, they'd kick my ass at Whale Killing. 
 

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Re: Native North Americans (Indains, First Nations or whatever).......
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2004, 10:12:52 PM »
i have no opinon there's no right or wrong here

if i was a full blooded native american i'd just go live a regular life in society

but i can't lie paying no taxes sounds good


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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2004, 04:26:29 PM »
I dont think its fair....heres why.

What native americans that are currently living right now were alive when pilgrims came to americca and kicked them out?

......none.

Its stupid to say were going to give you all this stuff for doing nothing, or living through nothing. No offense to black people, but...

What if they were to pass a bill that stop taxes for african americas, because of what they suffered during the slave era. How would that be fair, none of them are even living anymore who were slaves, so whats the point.
 

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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2004, 04:31:54 PM »
damn... i never knew they didn't have to pay taxes... i know an indian family that's living kind of poorly on a reservation, but they have a LOT of money... now i know why :-X
 

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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2004, 04:34:07 PM »
damn... i never knew they didn't have to pay taxes... i know an indian family that's living kind of poorly on a reservation, but they have a LOT of money... now i know why :-X

prolly cuzz they like to save it
native americans like to save stuff...
 

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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2004, 04:35:58 PM »
Leave the Natives alone, they deserve all the good shit they can get...its been a long brutal past for them and their ancestors and its their fucking land.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2004, 04:37:29 PM »
its been a long brutal past for them and their ancestors and its their fucking land.

very true
 

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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2004, 04:38:23 PM »
damn... i never knew they didn't have to pay taxes... i know an indian family that's living kind of poorly on a reservation, but they have a LOT of money... now i know why :-X

prolly cuzz they like to save it
native americans like to save stuff...

these people spend a lot of money though lol
 

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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2004, 05:24:17 PM »
I believe that they should be given government subsidized land, housing, etc... but I believe they should have to pay taxes.

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2004, 05:26:08 PM »
Leave the Natives alone, they deserve all the good shit they can get...its been a long brutal past for them and their ancestors and its their fucking land.
Ok, a 20 year old native american, who lives a normal american life.

How has his life been brutal? What experiences (apart from every other american) have they had, that are so bad, that they deserve tax exemption and ability to get into colleges easier.

 

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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2004, 05:35:32 PM »
Leave the Natives alone, they deserve all the good shit they can get...its been a long brutal past for them and their ancestors and its their fucking land.

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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2004, 06:31:22 PM »
Leave the Natives alone, they deserve all the good shit they can get...its been a long brutal past for them and their ancestors and its their fucking land.
Ok, a 20 year old native american, who lives a normal american life.

How has his life been brutal? What experiences (apart from every other american) have they had, that are so bad, that they deserve tax exemption and ability to get into colleges easier.



Like me!!!!!!! partly, I'm only like 25% Paiute, but I lived with my grandma who was 100%. Anyways, let me break it down for you a bit. How would you feel if someone came to your house, took it over, and said they are the people making rules around here and you are of no importance to them. Them to look around, and see everyone that is like you dying. Then your grandkids have no one to learn the culture from. Now lets put you in my generation. You know where you are from, you know your history, but you don't know a damn thing about what it means to be who you are. There are only 19 people left from your tribe. You are asking anyone who knows anything, because you are trying to find your culture, your way of being. The land that was suppose to be your land is gone. Your tribe doesn't even have a reservation because no one is left. Another tribe is willing to adobt you, and with their casino money, pay off your student loans. You go to college to learn what the white man knows, so you can understand better why they did what they did. To be honest, that's a big part of my questioning, WHY? Other natives, they get mad, they get resentful, because this is land that was suppose to be ours. When you look at United States society, it's stressful, it's fast pace, it's all about money. Our culture is not like that. It's community, it's about sharing, we get lost trying to fit in, because we are not the type of people that can fit in Capitalist society. I want to know why things happened. You can't changed the past, but to me, I want to understand it better, in hopes of finding a way to help natives cope with the future.
 

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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2004, 07:21:29 PM »
So lets say somone stole 20$ from my great great grandfather. So later when im alive, a relative of that theif comes to me and says "heres 20$ that my great great grandfather stole from yours....."

Honestly do you think i'd give a shit about that....no. I have put myself in a currently living native american life. Its not like the government is blocking them from having normal lives, there not imprisoning them. They can live a normal life. They should get any shit extra.

Why not give blacks tax exemption. We made them slaves.
Why not give Japanese people tax exemption. We put them in camps.
Why not give iraqi americans tax exemption. We are killing iraqis in iraq right now.
Why not give vietnamese americans tax exemption. We killed tons of them in vietnam.

ON, and ON , and ON. What makes indians so special? Because hundreds of years ago we kicked them off their land? Big deal get over it.

And by the way. Thanx for the negative karma guys. I didnt know we had so many indians on this board. God cant give my opinion without people dissing me.