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Draft US Military
« on: October 12, 2004, 06:32:11 AM »
Who thinks there will be one in the future
besides me?
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2004, 06:37:18 AM »
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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2004, 08:03:39 AM »
This is just paranoia on the part of the young people in America.  George Bush said last week

"There will be no draft as long as I am president". 

During the debate he said in his closing arguments

"I will have an all volunteer military"

and, recent 'draft' legislation introduced in the House of Representatives was started by 2 Democrats, one who voted against it after starting the legislation, and another who was trying to scare people into thinking the government is trying to enact a draft.  The resolution only had 2 votes for it, and the Senate majority leader refused to even hold a vote. 
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2004, 01:51:09 PM »
If we go after Iraq and suffer a large amount of casualties, then I think it will be reinstated.
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2004, 02:42:09 PM »
If we go after Iraq and suffer a large amount of casualties, then I think it will be reinstated.

Ummm.... Haven't we already gone after Iraq?
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2004, 02:46:25 PM »
i doubt there will be a draft
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2004, 02:50:32 PM »
Republicans Vote Down Draft Bill In Hopes Of Ending Rumors

If the possibility of being drafted into the armed forces has been keeping you up at night, rest easy. On Tuesday the House of Representatives arranged a political funeral for a bill that could have reinstated the draft, laying it to rest with an overwhelming 402-2 vote.

The bill, HR 163, would've required all men and women between ages 18-26 to serve at least two years of military or civilian service. Republicans brought it to a hasty vote in an effort to quell rumors that the Bush administration was secretly planning to revive the draft.

Lawmakers engaged in a contentious 40-minute debate, during which Democrats accused GOP Representatives of forcing the vote for political purposes while the troops are stretched thin abroad.

"All of the evidence indicates that we have exhausted our active troops," New York Democrat Charles Rangel said during the debate. "We are exhausting the Reserves; we are exhausting the National Guard."

Rangel introduced the bill in January 2003, but it had stalled in a House committee. He went on to explain that if the war continues without a draft in place, there will be no way to ensure that the burden of service will fall equally on Americans of all backgrounds, because those who volunteer tend to be from lower-income families.

"There should be a plea for the rich and the poor, which is so eloquently stated but not followed, to be volunteering and joining and having the honor to say they defended our country at a time of war," argued Rangel, who himself voted against the bill.

But Republicans, who in the weeks leading up to the election have been feeling the heat from increased chatter about a new draft, moved quickly to vote. Defeating the bill, they hoped, would be the final nail in the coffin of Internet rumors circulated over the summer, detailing Bush's plans to resurrect the draft in a second term.

The president sought to distance himself from the bill during a campaign stop in Iowa on Tuesday. Bush reasserted his position that the United States "will not have a draft so long as I am president."

Kerry has also declared he has no plans to reinstate the draft, but his camp has been accused of feeding the rumor mill in hopes of scaring young people and their parents from voting for Bush. While campaigning in Iowa on Tuesday, Kerry told reporters, "I've never said they're going to have a draft. I've said I don't know what they're going to do. I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to pursue a policy that guarantees we don't have to have a draft."

Despite the defeat of HR 163, some critics still see the debate as far from over. "The question is not if we want to have a draft, but whether or not current and future requirements will ultimately necessitate a draft," Rock the Vote President Jehmu Greene said in a statement released just before the House took up the issue.

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2004, 02:58:25 PM »
It's not even really an issue of parties. I'm concerned about both of them possibly pushing for it in the future. Of course not now, because it's too big of an issue for the election.
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2004, 08:01:07 AM »
there Will be a draft Youngsters
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2004, 01:00:58 PM »
lol ok ill quote you on that.
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2004, 04:24:26 PM »
there Will be a draft Youngsters

I knew he was working for the gov't
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2004, 10:13:53 AM »
there Will be a draft Youngsters

I knew he was working for the gov't

Yep. He's Vice president of Dumfuckistan
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2004, 10:15:17 AM »
dexter is one of the dumbest people on this board.. along with me and infinite  :D
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2004, 10:35:37 AM »
^You forgot ol' Woody The  Dumbprick
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2004, 02:40:06 PM »
If there is a draft, we're gonna get a hell of a lot more people here in Canda dodging it.  I just saw on the news the other day, they built a monument for the Vietnam draft dodgers in Nelson, BC. 
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2004, 07:29:20 AM »
Canada is the #1 spot for Draft dodgers.
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2004, 10:24:53 AM »
To all the fuckin pussies, don't worry...there won't be a draft.
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2004, 05:45:57 PM »
I don't think a draft is in the future any time soon.  I could be wrong but unless we invade Iran, North Korea, as well as Pakistan we should be alright.  But it could happen.  Not that I agree with it.  I think very highly of our armed service men and women but I think that the armed forces should be volunteer.  If a point in time came in our nation when the people of our country believed that the war we were in was absolutley justified and our very way of life at stake, and it was obvious that the current amount of men and women will not suffice, a draft wouldn't be necesarry.  Volunteers would be lining up.

But then again maybe I have to much faith in the spirit of the American people.   
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2004, 05:50:04 PM »
I don't think a draft is in the future any time soon.  I could be wrong but unless we invade Iran, North Korea, as well as Pakistan we should be alright. 

Why Pakistan? I thought the US had good relations with them?

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2004, 06:02:24 PM »
I don't think a draft is in the future any time soon.  I could be wrong but unless we invade Iran, North Korea, as well as Pakistan we should be alright. 

Why Pakistan? I thought the US had good relations with them?
I never said we weren't.  I simply ment that we would have to be an occupying force in Pakistan,  I could have easily have said Egypt or Turkey.  I used Pakistan as an example because of the disdain and bitterness Pakistan has toward America. I'm sorry I guess I was unclear.
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2004, 06:32:40 PM »
If there is a draft (which there wont) you can just enlist in the air force or navy (no offense to smerlus)
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2004, 07:11:33 PM »
If there is a draft (which there wont) you can just enlist in the air force or navy (no offense to smerlus)

I was wondering if you were still as dumb as before, and you just confirmed it.
 

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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2004, 06:01:11 PM »
If there is a draft (which there wont) you can just enlist in the air force or navy (no offense to smerlus)
It's not that easy.  If the time came when a draft was needed the governemnt/ military wouldn't let you choose which branch you would want to enlist in.  True, if you were to enlist in the airforce or navy pretty quickly you might be able to, but its the game of enlisting in the navy/airforce or waiting to see if you get drafted into the army or marines.
 

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Re: Draft US Military
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2004, 09:18:23 PM »
If there is a draft (which there wont) you can just enlist in the air force or navy (no offense to smerlus)

doesn't work that easy, the Air Force is almost fully manned and the Navy isn't too shabby....the draft is for Army mostly and secondly the Marines