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What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« on: October 20, 2004, 07:30:59 PM »
but doesn't get 270 electoral college votes?? I read a poll in a newspaper that has Bush leading electoral votes, but less than 270.

Similarly, in Canada, if a party wins but the party's leader doesn't get a seat, what happens? (I doubt anyone would know this but it's worth a shot.)

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 07:48:06 PM »
Well, its currently less than 270. the remainder are a toss up as of right now.  I think the electoral college is bullshit anyway.  I think they should tally each individual vote, and compare it between the candidates.  With the electoral college, it is possible that the person with the most individual votes in the country could lose the election.  Say if you live in an extremely conservative part of the country - say kansas, the vast majority will vote conservative, and your individual vote (say liberal) is useless, because it is drowned out by the conservative vote. Not 1 million to 500,000, its actually 1 to 0. Each state has a different amount of electoral votes based on population of the state.  So there is never the possibilty of not reaching 270. I'm sure i made that about as unclear as possible, but you see what i mean?
 

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 08:01:55 PM »
Well, its currently less than 270. the remainder are a toss up as of right now.  I think the electoral college is bullshit anyway.  I think they should tally each individual vote, and compare it between the candidates.  With the electoral college, it is possible that the person with the most individual votes in the country could lose the election.  Say if you live in an extremely conservative part of the country - say kansas, the vast majority will vote conservative, and your individual vote (say liberal) is useless, because it is drowned out by the conservative vote. Not 1 million to 500,000, its actually 1 to 0. Each state has a different amount of electoral votes based on population of the state.  So there is never the possibilty of not reaching 270. I'm sure i made that about as unclear as possible, but you see what i mean?
7even the Hairbinger, you obviously have no idea how the electoral college works or why it was implemented. If it didn't exist, then the smaller states wouldn't count for shit. Candidates would just spend their time and money in states like California and New York. The electoral college creates a balance of power (large vs. small states). Either you have no knowledge about the U.S. political system, or you don't live here and shouldn't even talk about shit you have no clue about.
 

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2004, 08:10:13 PM »
Well, its currently less than 270. the remainder are a toss up as of right now.  I think the electoral college is bullshit anyway.  I think they should tally each individual vote, and compare it between the candidates.  With the electoral college, it is possible that the person with the most individual votes in the country could lose the election.  Say if you live in an extremely conservative part of the country - say kansas, the vast majority will vote conservative, and your individual vote (say liberal) is useless, because it is drowned out by the conservative vote. Not 1 million to 500,000, its actually 1 to 0. Each state has a different amount of electoral votes based on population of the state.  So there is never the possibilty of not reaching 270. I'm sure i made that about as unclear as possible, but you see what i mean?
7even the Hairbinger, you obviously have no idea how the electoral college works or why it was implemented. If it didn't exist, then the smaller states wouldn't count for shit. Candidates would just spend their time and money in states like California and New York. The electoral college creates a balance of power (large vs. small states). Either you have no knowledge about the U.S. political system, or you don't live here and shouldn't even talk about shit you have no clue about.


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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2004, 08:16:12 PM »
It's possible though, that Ralph Nader could get like 250 electoral votes, thus fucking up the entire system, and nobody would get 270, lol. 
 

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2004, 08:20:32 PM »
It's possible though, that Ralph Nader could get like 250 electoral votes, thus fucking up the entire system, and nobody would get 270, lol. 
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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2004, 08:27:41 PM »
Similarly, in Canada, if a party wins but the party's leader doesn't get a seat, what happens? (I doubt anyone would know this but it's worth a shot.)

An MP in a 'safe' riding would step down, and then the party leader would run in that Riding in a bi-election.  That's what happened to Stockwell Day in the Okanagan.
 

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2004, 08:28:32 PM »
Well, its currently less than 270. the remainder are a toss up as of right now.  I think the electoral college is bullshit anyway.  I think they should tally each individual vote, and compare it between the candidates.  With the electoral college, it is possible that the person with the most individual votes in the country could lose the election.  Say if you live in an extremely conservative part of the country - say kansas, the vast majority will vote conservative, and your individual vote (say liberal) is useless, because it is drowned out by the conservative vote. Not 1 million to 500,000, its actually 1 to 0. Each state has a different amount of electoral votes based on population of the state.  So there is never the possibilty of not reaching 270. I'm sure i made that about as unclear as possible, but you see what i mean?

It works both ways. It makes it to where a state like Rhode Island can have a voice against say Cali, but it disregards any votes that aren't in the majority in that particular region. Your telling me you don't see flaw in a system that can actually elect a president who didn't have the most votes in the country?
7even the Hairbinger, you obviously have no idea how the electoral college works or why it was implemented. If it didn't exist, then the smaller states wouldn't count for shit. Candidates would just spend their time and money in states like California and New York. The electoral college creates a balance of power (large vs. small states). Either you have no knowledge about the U.S. political system, or you don't live here and shouldn't even talk about shit you have no clue about.


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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2004, 08:30:45 PM »
Well, its currently less than 270. the remainder are a toss up as of right now.  I think the electoral college is bullshit anyway.  I think they should tally each individual vote, and compare it between the candidates.  With the electoral college, it is possible that the person with the most individual votes in the country could lose the election.  Say if you live in an extremely conservative part of the country - say kansas, the vast majority will vote conservative, and your individual vote (say liberal) is useless, because it is drowned out by the conservative vote. Not 1 million to 500,000, its actually 1 to 0. Each state has a different amount of electoral votes based on population of the state.  So there is never the possibilty of not reaching 270. I'm sure i made that about as unclear as possible, but you see what i mean?
7even the Hairbinger, you obviously have no idea how the electoral college works or why it was implemented. If it didn't exist, then the smaller states wouldn't count for shit. Candidates would just spend their time and money in states like California and New York. The electoral college creates a balance of power (large vs. small states). Either you have no knowledge about the U.S. political system, or you don't live here and shouldn't even talk about shit you have no clue about.


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It works both ways. It makes it to where a state like Rhode Island can have a voice against say Cali, but it disregards any votes that aren't in the majority in that particular region. Your telling me you don't see flaw in a system that can actually elect a president who didn't have the most votes in the country?
 

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2004, 09:17:36 PM »
Similarly, in Canada, if a party wins but the party's leader doesn't get a seat, what happens? (I doubt anyone would know this but it's worth a shot.)

An MP in a 'safe' riding would step down, and then the party leader would run in that Riding in a bi-election.  That's what happened to Stockwell Day in the Okanagan.


Aaah. Now I recall hearing about that, my Dad was a big Stockwell fan back in the day and used to keep me informed. Makes sense I guess.

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2004, 04:45:48 AM »
Well, its currently less than 270. the remainder are a toss up as of right now.  I think the electoral college is bullshit anyway.  I think they should tally each individual vote, and compare it between the candidates.  With the electoral college, it is possible that the person with the most individual votes in the country could lose the election.  Say if you live in an extremely conservative part of the country - say kansas, the vast majority will vote conservative, and your individual vote (say liberal) is useless, because it is drowned out by the conservative vote. Not 1 million to 500,000, its actually 1 to 0. Each state has a different amount of electoral votes based on population of the state.  So there is never the possibilty of not reaching 270. I'm sure i made that about as unclear as possible, but you see what i mean?
7even the Hairbinger, you obviously have no idea how the electoral college works or why it was implemented. If it didn't exist, then the smaller states wouldn't count for shit. Candidates would just spend their time and money in states like California and New York. The electoral college creates a balance of power (large vs. small states). Either you have no knowledge about the U.S. political system, or you don't live here and shouldn't even talk about shit you have no clue about.


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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2004, 05:49:31 AM »
It works both ways. It makes it to where a state like Rhode Island can have a voice against say Cali, but it disregards any votes that aren't in the majority in that particular region. Your telling me you don't see flaw in a system that can actually elect a president who didn't have the most votes in the country?

So it's either the votes not in the majority being disregarded, or the entire state? LOL, just read that to yourself out loud a couple times, and then reply.
 

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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2004, 05:51:41 AM »
pointed out wrong in 2 sentences go figure

LOL, you can't prove me wrong yourself, so you cheer on those who might have a better chance than you. I hope there's something in it for you because if there isn't, then you're kinda pathetic... wait, scratch that, just the fact that you cheer him on makes you pathetic.
 

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2004, 05:53:37 AM »
It works both ways. It makes it to where a state like Rhode Island can have a voice against say Cali, but it disregards any votes that aren't in the majority in that particular region. Your telling me you don't see flaw in a system that can actually elect a president who didn't have the most votes in the country?

So it's either the votes not in the majority being disregarded, or the entire state? LOL, just read that to yourself out loud a couple times, and then reply.

good god. the state is disregarded, because noone will do a serious campaign or anything there, cause everybody knows who they gon vote for no matter what. and how does it make the republicans in new york feel, when noone cares about them because there are more democrats in new york? also, how is it good to ignore everyone who voted democratic in florida, just cause there were 500 more ppl who voted republican. and what's the deal when you live in a state like kansas and KNOW your vote wont ever do a thing.
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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2004, 05:54:35 AM »
pointed out wrong in 2 sentences go figure

LOL, you can't prove me wrong yourself, so you cheer on those who might have a better chance than you. I hope there's something in it for you because if there isn't, then you're kinda pathetic... wait, scratch that, just the fact that you cheer him on makes you pathetic.

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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2004, 06:02:50 AM »
pointed out wrong in 2 sentences go figure

LOL, you can't prove me wrong yourself, so you cheer on those who might have a better chance than you. I hope there's something in it for you because if there isn't, then you're kinda pathetic... wait, scratch that, just the fact that you cheer him on makes you pathetic.

I referred to me in this thread. What Im doing right now. You know you're wrong in this discussion.

LOL. Wow, you're dumber than I thought. The first post you made in this thread was the one where you said "pointed out wrong in 2 sentences go figure" so how in the world were you referring to yourself? LMAO.
 

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pointed out wrong in 2 sentences go figure

LOL, you can't prove me wrong yourself, so you cheer on those who might have a better chance than you. I hope there's something in it for you because if there isn't, then you're kinda pathetic... wait, scratch that, just the fact that you cheer him on makes you pathetic.

I referred to me in this thread. What Im doing right now. You know you're wrong in this discussion.

LOL. Wow, you're dumber than I thought. The first post you made in this thread was the one where you said "pointed out wrong in 2 sentences go figure" so how in the world were you referring to yourself? LMAO.

it was because whiteboy quoted you talking to me in this thread. and I answer the quoted post in the original thread. I thought youd be able to figure that out without further explanation, too bad you couldnt.
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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2004, 06:21:20 AM »
I referred to me in this thread. What Im doing right now. You know you're wrong in this discussion.

it was because whiteboy quoted you talking to me in this thread. and I answer the quoted post in the original thread. I thought youd be able to figure that out without further explanation, too bad you couldnt.

LMAO. Shut up already.
 

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I referred to me in this thread. What Im doing right now. You know you're wrong in this discussion.

it was because whiteboy quoted you talking to me in this thread. and I answer the quoted post in the original thread. I thought youd be able to figure that out without further explanation, too bad you couldnt.

LMAO. Shut up already.


Dont try to twist things. When I previously posted "I referred to me in this thread" the post was in a different thread. Someone moved a few posts around.
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I referred to me in this thread. What Im doing right now. You know you're wrong in this discussion.

it was because whiteboy quoted you talking to me in this thread. and I answer the quoted post in the original thread. I thought youd be able to figure that out without further explanation, too bad you couldnt.

LMAO. Shut up already.


Dont try to twist things. When I previously posted "I referred to me in this thread" the post was in a different thread. Someone moved a few posts around.


LMFAO. That has to be the weakest reply ever. Who are you blaming? Yourself, since you're a Mod? LOLLLL omg you're an idiot
 

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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2004, 06:37:52 AM »
So it was in another thread, and magically appeared in this thread? lol you Germans always find scapegoats for everything

 

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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2004, 06:49:49 AM »
lol it's true.. I am not the only one who can do this. Im pretty sure you know that it is indeed the case.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2004, 06:53:07 AM »
lol it's true.. I am not the only one who can do this. Im pretty sure you know that it is indeed the case.

Why would anyone move your post? Stop making excuses for being an idiot. Go read the other thread. Warning: Enter that thread at your own risk, there's some serious OWNAGE within.
 

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2004, 07:07:52 AM »
lol it's true.. I am not the only one who can do this. Im pretty sure you know that it is indeed the case.

Why would anyone move your post? Stop making excuses for being an idiot. Go read the other thread. Warning: Enter that thread at your own risk, there's some serious OWNAGE within.

not only my post but also yours. because you quoted what I said in another thread or something I dont know. fact is that happened, why would I say "hm, wasnt there another post of mine ???" in the other thread.. I wrote this just when the moving happened.

there's no ownage of yours, you just base your "ownage" on a lie. which is, that all the posts in this thread were originally posted in this thread, since this is simply inaccurate.
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Re: What happens if a candidate wins the election....
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2004, 07:17:21 AM »
The ownage occured when I said that you were an idiot for believing that all small states vote Republican, and your response was something along the lines of "of course i dont think this", and then I quoted you saying earlier that "all small states vote Republican anyways" LOL. That's the epitome of OWNAGE.