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Viacom pays FCC $3.5 Million... BULLSHIT FCC
« on: November 24, 2004, 12:55:35 AM »
WASHINGTON - Viacom will pay a record $3.5 million to settle dozens of federal investigations into alleged indecency on TV and the radio, and introduce delays in more live programming to help catch troublesome material before it gets on the air.

The settlement, announced Tuesday, closes investigations dating back to 2001. One involved shock jock Howard Stern, and two focused on Opie and Anthony, who lost their Viacom-owned New York radio show after it featured a couple purporting to have sex inside St. Patrick's Cathedral.

Greg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia went silent after the 2002 show until October, when they joined with XM Satellite Radio, where Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) regulations don't apply. Stern is joining the Sirius satellite network in January 2006, when his contract with Viacom-owned Infinity Broadcasting expires.

Viacom, which also owns CBS and MTV, agreed to implement a companywide compliance plan aimed at preventing future violations of federal indecency statutes. The plan includes installation of audio delay equipment at radio stations that broadcast live programming and training broadcasters and employees about indecency laws.

"This consent decree allows us to move forward and to focus our efforts in this area by serving our viewers and listeners with techniques to safeguard live broadcasts, such as cutaways and video and audio delays," Viacom said in a statement.

Viacom said the public, not the government, should decide what it is exposed to on radio and television.

But agreeing to the settlement makes that impossible, says John Dunbar, a project manager at the Center for Public Integrity, a nonpartisan government watchdog group. Viacom had a reputation for questioning federal investigations under its former president, Mel Karmazin, who left in June, Dunbar said. Karmazin is joining his longtime associate Stern at Sirius, where he will be CEO.

Becoming more acquiescent with FCC (news - web sites) oversight may make good business sense, Dunbar said, but that means potentially losing freedom of speech.

"Regardless of what the content of the speech was, I'm not sure that it's such a great thing for there not to be a debate on it," Dunbar said.

The settlement is not related to the agency's $550,000 fine against Viacom after the exposure of singer Janet Jackson's breast during the CBS Super Bowl halftime show in January. Viacom is contesting that fine.

The agreement cancels investigations into about 50 radio and television shows, said Richard Diamond, a commission spokesman. The shows were broadcast by Viacom-owned stations across the country, including some in Florida, Michigan, Ohio, California, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Texas, Massachusetts and New York.

The FCC defines indecent programming in the main as containing sexual language or material that is "patently offensive" when measured against prevailing community broadcast standards. It is forbidden on radio or broadcast television from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. Material that is judged obscene is not allowed at any hour.

Viacom has five days to pay the $3.5 million fine, according to the agreement. Diamond said it was the commission's largest settlement.

Infinity Broadcasting paid fines totaling $1.7 million in 1995 to settle FCC violations by Stern.

 

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2004, 01:08:20 AM »
does any one rember O&A? best radio show ever
 

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2004, 05:47:57 AM »
Im am seriously sick of the FCC.  They are taking away free speech.  They've gotten to the point where you cant show Saving Private Ryan on veterans day.
 

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2004, 04:21:15 PM »
The FCC is complete bullshit.  You get these god freaks in Washington and they try to control what everyone can watch/listen to.

I'd like to hear someone define what "indecency" is?  How do you determine this?
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2004, 04:27:39 PM »
i like how a small percent of the people can fuck things up for the rest of us.... like those xray scanners in the UK....98% of the people tested said they didn't mind it, then an outside group says it goes against privacy issues
 

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2004, 12:23:52 AM »
Well, people shouldn't be able to show up on t.v. nude whenever it's a public access thing.  The airwaves belong to America, and you've got Justin Timberlake simulating a rape of Janet Jackson on television with children watching.  That's bullshit, and they should have all been fined, starting with Janet and Justin.

This year, we've got Paul McCartney headlining the superbowl.  I hope it's the beginning of a long tradition of quality entertainment @ the superbowl, last year's show was a fucking JOKE. 
 

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2004, 12:41:19 AM »
Well, people shouldn't be able to show up on t.v. nude whenever it's a public access thing.  The airwaves belong to America, and you've got Justin Timberlake simulating a rape of Janet Jackson on television with children watching.  That's bullshit, and they should have all been fined, starting with Janet and Justin.

Who are you to say that's not something people should watch?  I personally don't find that "indecent".
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2004, 06:30:24 AM »
Well, people shouldn't be able to show up on t.v. nude whenever it's a public access thing.  The airwaves belong to America, and you've got Justin Timberlake simulating a rape of Janet Jackson on television with children watching.  That's bullshit, and they should have all been fined, starting with Janet and Justin.

Who are you to say that's not something people should watch?  I personally don't find that "indecent".

He believes the government should stay out of our lives, unless it's this Christian fundamentalist administration agreeing with the bible-thumpers, sibling-fucking hicks and Mormons ideals. These people think it's wrong to show "indecencies" on TV, but feel it's okay to molest their nephews and so forth. It's so hypocritical and disgusting.
 

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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2004, 08:17:05 AM »
don't like whats on, TURN THE FUCKING CHANNEL! Most people have hundreds anyways, so if your disgusted by what your watching find something else, turn it off and go do something.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2004, 11:19:15 PM »
The problem with that argument, which your questionable intellect I guess failed to recognize, is that there's no precedent for showing Nudity during the fucking SUPERBOWL.  The last 35 years it was on, or however long, there was no nudity.  So parents had a reasonable expectation that there would be nothing that a child couldn't watch on the show.  So, here's parents sitting around with their children, and Justin Timberlake rips Janet Jackson's clothes off, and she cowers to him.  Real fucking class for a little girl to see a man rip a woman's clothes off on national television.  If you dont' see a problem with that, I hope the fuck you never have children, becuase they're gonna be a sad future for the world. 
 

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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2004, 01:00:27 AM »
oh no, breasts!  lets get all pissy becuz we saw something on TV that every living person has seen before.  Your so concerned with tits, but you apparently think homophobia, racism, and guns are good for the kiddies. 

oddly enough, whole other parts of the world regularly go topless in public.  Many of our famous sculptures are nude.  And even more amazingly, the side of religion, is also the side that is embarassed of the body god gave them.  God didn't invent clothing, but he did create breasts and a penis, and as the story goes, Adam and Eve were placed on this earth nude.           
 

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2004, 09:51:50 AM »
^^ What he said. What is wrong with a bit of nudity?
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2004, 10:13:10 AM »
The problem is the depiction of a man ripping a woman's clothes off, and the woman cowering and covering herself from the man.  That's not an image to project to children as 'cool' on national t.v. with thousands of fans screaming. 
 

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2004, 06:23:16 PM »
The problem is the depiction of a man ripping a woman's clothes off, and the woman cowering and covering herself from the man.  That's not an image to project to children as 'cool' on national t.v. with thousands of fans screaming. 

You'll never get your point across.  I understand what you're saying....you can go on and on and on and on and on and people will fail to see what's wrong with being able to show "whatever you want" on t.v. 

So nobody sees anything wrong with kids seeing shit that not's suitable for young viewers?  I mean really, you see nothing wrong with a 5 year old flipping through channels and he sees some porn?  That's freedom of speech?  I understand if an adult finds it offending, then change the fucking channel.  An adult is (should be) responsible enough, but a kid is not.  Sure I know they will probably see the same shit in one form or another, but if tv were allowed to put on ANYTHING, then there's no standards.
 

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2004, 06:28:36 PM »
I mean really, you see nothing wrong with a 5 year old flipping through channels and he sees some porn?

What do you think will happend to that five year old if he sees porn on television?
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 07:55:10 PM »
I mean really, you see nothing wrong with a 5 year old flipping through channels and he sees some porn?

What do you think will happend to that five year old if he sees porn on television?

I think of the future of the world with an ignorant ass question like that...
 

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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2004, 12:26:07 AM »
I agree with Trauma on the super bowl incident, i have no comment on fcc
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2004, 01:35:47 PM »
I think of the future of the world with an ignorant ass question like that...

Seriously, I'm not saying a five year old should watch that but what's going to happend to them if they do?  You don't have an answer, do you?
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2004, 01:51:44 PM »
I think of the future of the world with an ignorant ass question like that...

Seriously, I'm not saying a five year old should watch that but what's going to happend to them if they do?  You don't have an answer, do you?

I was simply using porn as an example of something that could be deemed as "free speech".  Suppose he watched it, as many other kids with irresponsible parents who saw nothing wrong with their kids watching it.  Next, kids are trying what they see on t.v. as soon as their parts function like that.

Like I said, that was simply one example I used if people want to claim "free speech".  You have to draw the line somewhere.  I understand there is a degree of sex, violence, etc. on t.v. that kids have access to now.  It is the responsibility of the parents to monitor/prohibit viewing this.  And what is on t.v. now is within the guidelines.  Imagine if there were no guidelines!  Let kids be innocent for as long as they can be.

I'm just curious Toothpick, do you have kids?  If you do/plan on having them, would you let them watch anything that was on t.v. (porn, extreme violence, extreme cussing, torture)? 
 

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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2004, 02:05:05 PM »
The problem is parents aren't being parents.

If I had a five year old I would block the channels that aired that kind of programming.  If something I didn't like suddenly appeared on television that I didn't want my kid watching like the Super Bowl halftime show I wouldn't let them watch television anymore if I felt that strongly about it.  It's pretty easy to deal with.
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« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2004, 02:15:27 PM »
The problem is parents aren't being parents.

If I had a five year old I would block the channels that aired that kind of programming.  If something I didn't like suddenly appeared on television that I didn't want my kid watching like the Super Bowl halftime show I wouldn't let them watch television anymore if I felt that strongly about it.  It's pretty easy to deal with.

Exactly, parents aren't being parents.  And that is the exact reason why they shouldn't be able to air "anything they want" on t.v. due to "free speech".  If every parent did their job, then I would see absolutley no problem showing whatever networks put on television.  The problem is, a lot of parents do not do their job and that is why certain programs must be censored.
 

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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2004, 02:25:39 PM »
I agree... they shouldn't be allowed to just show ANYTHING on T.V.
However, you have to admit this country really needs to take a look at its values...

A massive intelligence failure... the result being thousands of dead Americans, and it takes about a year to get a panel together for the investigation.....

Janet Jackson shows her tit with a pastie on it, and within 6 hours there's an investigation going on...

LOL I don't know, but personally I think this is fucked up
 

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2004, 02:32:17 PM »
I agree... they shouldn't be allowed to just show ANYTHING on T.V.
However, you have to admit this country really needs to take a look at its values...

A massive intelligence failure... the result being thousands of dead Americans, and it takes about a year to get a panel together for the investigation.....

Janet Jackson shows her tit with a pastie on it, and within 6 hours there's an investigation going on...

LOL I don't know, but personally I think this is fucked up

Yeah, you've got a point there...