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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2002, 04:59:47 AM »
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Fake shit? Man stop please! And what the Lawz have to do with Pac's lyrics in this song? In this song, Pac revealed he fucked Biggie's wife as a revenge, he said he let him sleep in his home while he was broke, that he "made" him (cause Pac was famous and with 2 solo albums + Digital Underground, while Biggie was still unknown, and Pac was about to sign him to Thug Life), that BIG stole his rhymes and the concept of his cd (never released and changed to Me Against The World because of that), he blamed him for the NY shooting... i cant see fake shit.. can you? That's Pac's life + how he felt at the moment. His emotions expressed like never before. The mad Pac. So TRUE! Hating on one of the best diss songs ever calling it "wack" aint really the smartest thing to do in a WC board btw.


Yes, 2 Pac did say all those things in the song, I see no proof that he actually did any of them. No proof, it could be as easily fake as it could be truthful. Nobody knows and nobody will, so we can all have our own thoughts on the lyrics. I personally think that 2 Pac didnt do any of the shit he said about in Hit Em Up. BTW, LMFAO@ your last sentence. Oh no, I've gone and upset some people on the internet with my opinon on 2 Pacs music.

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Man that's your limit. If you cant see the difference, then that's the limit you have! Pac contraddicting himself? HELL NAW! Talking about... i dunno... females... for example.. Big Syke explained this: Pac didnt like labels for females. He never called them always bitches. He never called them always women. He had respect for them when he had to and when females deserved respect. But he dissed them when they deserved that. So you can find tracks like Brenda's Got A Baby, or Baby Dont Cry, or Keep Ya Head Up defending females ("it's time to die for our women"), and tracks dissing them calling them bitches and saying they aint shit. That's cause Pac was real. He always expressed his emotions in the moment he made the tracks! It's all like that. But all the shit are real cause that's how he felt in the moment.


LOL. Originally you said he sometimes calls them bitches, he sometimes doesnt. Hmm, sounds like a contradiction to me. "Pac didnt like labels for females" - he might not have liked to label women, but he did it. Hes flaunting women on the song I Get Around, then says the world needs to treat them with more respect.

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You said it. Not in my sense of real. Ill metaphors & punches aint shit if there is no message. If you cant say: "damn, this shit happens to me too! I'm feeling him".


No offence but I highly doubt that topics that tupac was spitting on has happened to you aswell. Unless your a teenage mother maybe? Or "shaking it how you want to, giving it for free, making money on the corner". What ever floats your boat man.

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If even OJ Simpsons said last week he can relate to Pac and that his shit is so real...... can he say the same talking about the "illest methaphors" of Chino XL? Dont think so.


Erm, not sure if OJ Simpson was the best person to choose there homie. Hmm, a man that stabbed his wife to death can relate to Pacs music and not Chino XLs. Thats making Chino look better to me. Oh, and OJ isn't going to relate to Chinos music when he disses him aswell.

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He's so real that he dissed Pac, and after that he had to meet Pac to ask him sorry, he had to release interviews explaining it wasnt a real diss, he had to meet Outlawz to talk with them (like Lawz said) and STILL he got problems walking in Jersey. LOL


Where'd you hear that? I Have nothing against 2 Pac. I think hes a good artist with good songs but he isnt the G.O.A.T to me. I use to think he was the best rapper, but he ain't. Hit 'Em Up is a decent song but it ain't got shit on most ill battle raps.
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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2002, 06:36:12 AM »
u doods need check out Supernatural and then talk about who would rip who in a battle!!! best freestyle ever!!
also eyedea is great too.. and o yea, freestylin and battlin isn't gangbangin..
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2002, 06:36:18 AM »
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Stupid Thoughts. Pac is dead.
Who cares what would happen if...



Yeah , I feel the same way, it's just like people claiming that Dream Team III could beat # 1, u cant proove it.
 

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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2002, 07:21:31 AM »
What do you mean 'Pac would get slaughter. He was very gifted lyrically. Just 'cause his emotional stuff over shadow his lyricals, doesn't mean they were weak. 'Pac was by far the most complete rapper ever. Just read this shit.

Troublesome '96:
Gutter ways, my mentality is ghetto
A guerilla in this criminal war, we all rebels
Death before dishonor bet I bomb on the first niggaz
Knew we came for murder, pullin up in a hearse
Westside was the war cry bustin off freely
Screamin, "Fuck - ALL Y'ALL NIGGAZ" in Swahili
Pistol packin fresh out of jail, I ain't goin back
Release me to the care, of my heartless strap
Say my name three times like Candyman
Bet I roll on yo' ass like an avalance
A sole survivor, learned to get high and pull drivebys
Murder my foes, can't control my nine
Hearin thoughts of my enemies pleadin please
Busta-ass motherfuckers tried to flee
Picture me lettin this chump survive
Ran up on his ass, when I dumped he died;
cause I'm troublesome

Fuckin' Wit' The Wrong Nigga (Biggie diss):
I was raised by thugs, schooled by killers
Learned my mathematic skills for real drug dealers
Tried to rise but they tried me
I guess they all had to die cause we tried peace
I die in these streets, blast 'til they recognize
Still do or die, all my niggaz gettin high watchin time fly
Best strategize on the way to profit
Best organize how you ride so they can't stop it
Then keep it poppin lot of busters wanna see me fall
I fucked yo' bitch and now this new shit gon' fade 'em all
My niggaz ball made a call for some backup
for lil' homies and my dogs in the black truck
Buck buck was the sound as they gats burst
No need for ambulance, baby bring the black hearse
Shoulda never fucked around busta, how you figure?
Makin moves on the wrong nigga, is what it sounds like
Ding ding ding.. when you fuck wit the wrong nigga..
Niggaz gettin hit, when they fuck, wit the wrong nigga..
Fuckin wit the wrong nigga..

Ambitionz Az a Ridah:
My murderous lyrics equipped with spirits of the Thugs before me
Pay off the block evade the cops cause I know they comin for me
I been hesitant to reappear, been away for years
Now I'm back my adversaries been reduced to tears
Question my methods to switch up speeds, sure as some bitches bleeds
niggaz'll feel the fire of my mother's corrupted seed
Blast me but they didn't finish, (buck buck buck buck buck)
didn't diminish my powers
so now I'm back to be a motherfuckin menace, they cowards
That's why they tried to set me up
Had bitch-ass niggaz on my team, so indeed, they wet me up
But I'm back reincarnated, incarcerated
At the time I caught the perfect way that God made it
Lace em with lyrics that's legendary, musical mercenary
For money, I'll have these motherfuckers buried (I been)
gettin much mail in jail, niggaz tellin me to kill it
Knowin when I get out, they gon' feel it
Witness the realest, a whoridah when I put the shit inside
the cry from all your people when they find her
Just remind ya, my history'll prove I been it
Revenge on them niggaz that played me,
and all the cowards that was down widdit
Now it's yo' nigga right beside ya
Hopin you listenin, catch you payin attention
to my ambitions as a ridah

Got My Mind Made Up:
So mandatory my elevation my lyrics like orientation
So you can be more familiar with tha nigga you facin
We must be based on nothin better than communication
Known to damage and highly flamable like gas stations
Sorry I left that ass waitin
No more procrastination give up to fate, and get that asss shakin
I'm bustin and makin motherfuckers panic
Don't take ya life for granted put that ass in the dirt
You swear the bitch was planted
My lyrics motivate the planet
It's similar to Rhythm Nation
but thugged out, forgive me Janet
Who's in control I'm acvtivatin yo souls
You know, the way the games get controlled
Yo, two years ago, a friend of mine
Told me Alize and Cristal blows your mind
Bear witness to the dopest fuckin rhyme I wrote
Takin off my coat, clearing my throat

No More Pain:
My adversaries cry like hoes fully eradicate my foes
My lyrics explode on contact, gamin you hoes
Who else but Mama's only son, fuck the phony niggaz I'm the one
Say my name, watch bitches come, now fire
when ready, stay watchin now figure, increase speed
Make you motherfuckers bleed from your mouth quicker
Plus all these niggaz that you run with, be on some dumb shit
Trick on the hoes, I ain't the one bitch
Holla my name and witness game official, it's so sick
Have every single bitch that came witchu, on my dick
Plus this alcohol increases the chance to be deceased
I'm movin you stupid bitches, vicious telekenesis
Am I reachin your brain?  Nigga how can I explain?
How vicious this Thug motherfucker came
When I die, I wanna be a livin legend, say my name
Affiliated with this motherfuckin game, with no more pain

I Ain'T Hard To Find (Bay Area Style):
I heard a rumour I died, murdered in cold blood dramatized
Picutes of me in my final stage you know Mama cried
But that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted
Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missin
Although I'm worldwide, baby I ain't hard to find
Why I spend most of my time on California crime
Watching for thievin I'm cautious it's like I'm barely breathin
Puttin a bullet in mutherfuckers give me a reason
See me and hope I'm intoxicated or slightly faded
You tried to play me now homicide is my only payment
I'm addicted to currency in this life I lead
Why the fuck you cowards be runnin, too scared to fight a G
For the life of me, I cannot see
How motherfuckers picture livin life after a night of fuckin around with me
And if you don't like this rhyme
then bring your big bad ass to California, cause we ain't hard to find

Bomb First (Eastcoast diss):
Allow me to introduce first Makaveli the Don
Hysterical, spiritual lyrics like the holy Qu'Ran
Niggaz get shook like 5-0
My forty-five gun's next to me when we ride, for survival
Money makin plans, pistol close at hand, swollen pockets
Let me introduce the topic, then we drop it
Expose snakes cause they breath freely, see me ride?
Located world wide like the art of graffiti
I think I'm tougher than Nitti, my attitude is shitty
Born on a dopefiend's titty.. huh
In every city you'll find me
Look for trouble right behind me
My Outlaw niggaz down to die for me, knahmean?
I hit the scene niggaz duckin from my guillotine stare
I'm right there; my every word, a fuckin nightmare
Get me high, let me see the sun rise and fall
This for my dogs down to die for yours
Extreme venom, no mercy when we all up in 'em
Cut 'em down.. to Hell is where we send 'em
My whole team, trained to explode ride or die
Murder motherfuckers lyrically, and I'm not gon' cry
Me - a born leader never leave the block without my heater
Two big pits, I call them my bitch nigga eaters
And not a whimper 'til I'm gone
Thug Life runnin through my veins so I'm strong
(Ha ha ha)
Bye bye bye, let's get high and ride
Oh, how do we do these niggaz but I'm not gon' cry
I'm a Bad Boy killa, Jay-Z die too
Lookin out for Mobb Deep, nigga when I find you
Weak motherfuckers don't deserve to breathe
How many niggaz down to die for me?  Yeahh-yeayy!
West coast ridah, comin right behind ya
Should've never fucked wit meeee
I want money hoes sex and weeeed
I wont rest till my road dawgs freeee, bomb first!

Blasphemy:
We probably in Hell already, our dumb asses not knowin
Everybody kissin ass to go to heaven ain't goin
Put my soul on it, I'm fightin devil niggaz daily
Plus the media be crucifying brothers severly
Tell me I ain't God's son, nigga mom a virgin
We got addicted had to leave the burbs, back in the ghetto
doin wild shit, lookin at the sun don't pay
Criminal mind all the time, wait for Judgment Day
They say Moses split the Red Sea
I split the blunt and rolled the fat one, I'm deadly -- Babylon beware
Comin from the Pharoahe's kids, retaliation
Makin legends off the shit we did, still bullshittin
Niggaz in Jerusalem, waitin for signs
God promised, she's just takin her time, haha
Living by the Nile while the water flows
I'm contemplating plots wondering which door to go
Brothas getting shot, comin back resurrected
It's just that raw shit, nigga check it

Tell me that ain't lyrical. All types of styles, but I mainly tried to get the ones that compare easy. Couldn't got a lot more styles, subject. As I said, most complete rapper ever. 'Pac said himself he could battle anybody. Besides, you Ras grew up on 'Pac. How is the person that grew up on 'Pac gonna be better than 'Pac. I say Ras is the best lyrist today, no question, better than Xzibit, Chino, Jada, Beanie, but not of all-time.
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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2002, 09:36:25 AM »
Of course Chino would beat him when it comes to lyrics. But I'm pretty sure he can't express his emotions the way Pac did.
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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2002, 10:02:22 AM »
yes CHINO iz an amazing battle rhymer, as someone already said- the guy is like a more complete version of Canimbus and it's all true. PAC on the other hand might not be the greatest lyricist in the sence of MCeeing and battling, But he sure was and prolly still is one of the greatest SONG WRITERS,  probably even the best, and he remains -TO THIS DAY....If there was a battle between tupac and chino-I, unlike some people here, Don't doubt for a second PAC would eat him alive, no metter how good of a Battle rhymer Chino seemingly is. U prolly wanna know why?!-for a start, where Chino would've hit u wit wordplay and triple-meaning smilies, Pac would simply make u feel what he sayes to a point u actually believe him, his simple- yet seemingly realistic speach would've given u an impresion and a feel of basic storytelling, while his charisma, delivery and voice would've carried it to a point u actually feel his side almost like u were him, and it would feel much easier to "believe" in what he sayes rather then the complex wordplay of chino....
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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2002, 11:31:56 AM »
this is one stupid fucking thread...
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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2002, 11:12:58 PM »
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Of course Chino would beat him when it comes to lyrics. But I'm pretty sure he can't express his emotions the way Pac did.

Chino is pretty good at that actually. Listen to the song 'What am I?'.
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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2002, 11:15:10 PM »
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this is one stupid fucking thread...


Why?
All people don't think Pac is the greatest ya know. I never really liked him. And i reackon Chino would serve him in a freestyle battle. Just stating my opinion.
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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2002, 01:39:03 AM »
Jay-D have u got the video "Kreep"?

I've spent almost 1 year looking for it and i can't find it?

ALso I heard about chino from wakeup show freestyles and coz of his first album. Not coz pac said his name on Hit Em Up.

Chino is one of the best damn rappers out there today and yeh pac could never fuck with him

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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2002, 01:46:49 AM »
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Yes, 2 Pac did say all those things in the song, I see no proof that he actually did any of them. No proof, it could be as easily fake as it could be truthful. Nobody knows and nobody will, so we can all have our own thoughts on the lyrics. I personally think that 2 Pac didnt do any of the shit he said about in Hit Em Up. BTW, LMFAO@ your last sentence. Oh no, I've gone and upset some people on the internet with my opinon on 2 Pacs music.

Do you see proofs when Chino XL said Pac was been raped in jail? No. That's what i'm talking about. Pac expressed his feelings and his truth, and Biggie never replied cause shit was deep and classic.

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LOL. Originally you said he sometimes calls them bitches, he sometimes doesnt. Hmm, sounds like a contradiction to me. "Pac didnt like labels for females" - he might not have liked to label women, but he did it. Hes flaunting women on the song I Get Around, then says the world needs to treat them with more respect.

If you dont understand it, you are a lil bit limitated, sorry.

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No offence but I highly doubt that topics that tupac was spitting on has happened to you aswell. Unless your a teenage mother maybe? Or "shaking it how you want to, giving it for free, making money on the corner". What ever floats your boat man.

Man another stupid reply? You dont have to live exactly the same things to feel the man, his emotions! I sure as hell felt sometimes like it was me against the world, like i was MAD at my homie, like i wanted a bitch to fuck, like i wanted to appreciate my girl, or my mother, like i had an "i dont give a fuck" feeling, etc.. You have to FEEL his emotions, not LIVE his emotions. That's pretty different, man! It's like reading a book. You dont LIVE the emotions of the writer, you FEEL them!

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Erm, not sure if OJ Simpson was the best person to choose there homie. Hmm, a man that stabbed his wife to death can relate to Pacs music and not Chino XLs. Thats making Chino look better to me. Oh, and OJ isn't going to relate to Chinos music when he disses him aswell.

First of all i'm studying law, so i cant call OJ Simpson "a man that stabbed his wife to death", since i havent followed the full trial, but i think he's a free man with all the rights to not be labelled as a killer. Second, once again, i was talking about the feeling of being "alone against the world", not about the fact that he slapped his wife like Pac and shit like that. It was a lil bit more deep.

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Where'd you hear that? I Have nothing against 2 Pac. I think hes a good artist with good songs but he isnt the G.O.A.T to me. I use to think he was the best rapper, but he ain't. Hit 'Em Up is a decent song but it ain't got shit on most ill battle raps.

About the fact that he got problems walking in Jersey, Chino himself said so in one of his songs.. About the thing with the Lawz and Pac, Lawz explained it in an interview. Not really recent, but i think u can still find it in hitemup.com or madeniggaz.net or somewhere. They said Chino talked with Pac before he died. That he explained his lyrics. Etc..

Btw you see rap as a battle over nuthing with fake words, i see it as a message and a way to express your feelings. That's the big difference.
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2002, 01:52:28 AM »
Btw Pac didnt have always the most complicated lyrics possibles cause he made 3-4 tracks a day. Feel that? He just liked a beat, he had a message to say, and he expressed it with a song. It was a way to communicate with other guys, with his fans. You know? He almost rhymed in interviews too! He used tracks to say something.

I feel like Chino XL used something to make tracks.
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2002, 01:55:18 AM »
2 pac used something to make tracks too,he was addicted to weed and cocaine.....everybody knows that!
 

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Re: 2pac would get slaughtered on the mic....
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2002, 02:00:18 AM »
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Jay-D have u got the video "Kreep"?

Nah i don't. I been looking for it.
Has he got any other songles released??
Ive only seen him on the Sway & Tech-Anthem.

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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2002, 02:05:39 AM »
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Btw Pac didnt have always the most complicated lyrics possibles cause he made 3-4 tracks a day. Feel that? He just liked a beat, he had a message to say, and he expressed it with a song. It was a way to communicate with other guys, with his fans. You know? He almost rhymed in interviews too! He used tracks to say something.


True dat. His was EXTREMELY prolific.
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