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Re: suicide
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2008, 11:49:23 PM »
I've thought about suicide many times, mostly when I was super depressed. But then I'd assume everyone else does the same thing. At the end of the day, I'd never kill myself. I love life way too much, whether I'm getting laid or not getting laid!

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Re: suicide
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2008, 10:43:07 AM »
my brother committed suicide on December 3rd, 2003...10 days before my b-day. 

what a great fucking present, right?

i still cry when i think about him...its been over four years and i dont know if ill ever get over it.  the way my mom was crying will stick with me forever.  no mother should ever cry like that. :( :(



Damn, man, that's terrible.. if you don't mind me asking, how old was he and what kinda struggles was he facing?

One of my homegirl's mom used to claim to her daughter that she was gunna kill herself all the time, only to be brushed off...one morning, the homegirl walked into her moms room to find her dead, right after a night of her mom complaining to her and telling her that she was about to kill herself. A few years later, her younger brother (16 years old) killed himself... this was only a few months back... suicide is a very sad and cowardly thing to do IMO.
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #92 on: March 27, 2008, 11:11:53 AM »
remember suicide is the biggest sin.
love life and never give up the hope.
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #93 on: March 27, 2008, 03:09:10 PM »
my brother committed suicide on December 3rd, 2003...10 days before my b-day. 

what a great fucking present, right?

i still cry when i think about him...its been over four years and i dont know if ill ever get over it.  the way my mom was crying will stick with me forever.  no mother should ever cry like that. :( :(



Damn, man, that's terrible.. if you don't mind me asking, how old was he and what kinda struggles was he facing?

One of my homegirl's mom used to claim to her daughter that she was gunna kill herself all the time, only to be brushed off...one morning, the homegirl walked into her moms room to find her dead, right after a night of her mom complaining to her and telling her that she was about to kill herself. A few years later, her younger brother (16 years old) killed himself... this was only a few months back... suicide is a very sad and cowardly thing to do IMO.

he was 30..he didnt have any huge problems, as far as i knew...he had a good job, nice wife..i honestly dont know what drove him to that.  he didnt leave a note, nothing.  he lived in nebraska due to his job, and we touched base at least once a week, but before this happened we didnt talk for about two weeks, everytime i called i got the answering machine. i just wish i knew what drove him to do it.



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Re: suicide
« Reply #94 on: March 27, 2008, 03:23:21 PM »
my brother committed suicide on December 3rd, 2003...10 days before my b-day. 

what a great fucking present, right?

i still cry when i think about him...its been over four years and i dont know if ill ever get over it.  the way my mom was crying will stick with me forever.  no mother should ever cry like that. :( :(



Damn, man, that's terrible.. if you don't mind me asking, how old was he and what kinda struggles was he facing?

One of my homegirl's mom used to claim to her daughter that she was gunna kill herself all the time, only to be brushed off...one morning, the homegirl walked into her moms room to find her dead, right after a night of her mom complaining to her and telling her that she was about to kill herself. A few years later, her younger brother (16 years old) killed himself... this was only a few months back... suicide is a very sad and cowardly thing to do IMO.

he was 30..he didnt have any huge problems, as far as i knew...he had a good job, nice wife..i honestly dont know what drove him to that.  he didnt leave a note, nothing.  he lived in nebraska due to his job, and we touched base at least once a week, but before this happened we didnt talk for about two weeks, everytime i called i got the answering machine. i just wish i knew what drove him to do it.


If there were no signs of him being that type of guy, do you ever wonder if it wasn't suicide? Because people have been framed with shit like that in the past...not giving a reason or showing signs of depression before killing yourself seems a bit strange.
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2008, 03:38:23 PM »
my brother committed suicide on December 3rd, 2003...10 days before my b-day. 

what a great fucking present, right?

i still cry when i think about him...its been over four years and i dont know if ill ever get over it.  the way my mom was crying will stick with me forever.  no mother should ever cry like that. :( :(



Damn, man, that's terrible.. if you don't mind me asking, how old was he and what kinda struggles was he facing?

One of my homegirl's mom used to claim to her daughter that she was gunna kill herself all the time, only to be brushed off...one morning, the homegirl walked into her moms room to find her dead, right after a night of her mom complaining to her and telling her that she was about to kill herself. A few years later, her younger brother (16 years old) killed himself... this was only a few months back... suicide is a very sad and cowardly thing to do IMO.

he was 30..he didnt have any huge problems, as far as i knew...he had a good job, nice wife..i honestly dont know what drove him to that.  he didnt leave a note, nothing.  he lived in nebraska due to his job, and we touched base at least once a week, but before this happened we didnt talk for about two weeks, everytime i called i got the answering machine. i just wish i knew what drove him to do it.


If there were no signs of him being that type of guy, do you ever wonder if it wasn't suicide? Because people have been framed with shit like that in the past...not giving a reason or showing signs of depression before killing yourself seems a bit strange.

sometimes, but the fact is he is gone...and nothing will ever change that.  if there was foul play those motherfuckers will pay, sooner or later.



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Re: suicide
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2008, 12:47:46 AM »
when I quit smoking weed my emotional issues all fell into place I was a constant 247 smoker for 10 years...


that lasted about a year and a half...Im sparkin as we speak.

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Re: suicide
« Reply #97 on: March 28, 2008, 12:58:13 AM »
don't do it. It's not worth it. I mean there's such awesome alternatives to killing yourself, such as gettin away from everything, becoming a hermit, or joining a hippie commune (They're still around in certain areas). Then you'll smoke weed all day, listen to good music and just chill until you get shot by a cop, and you won't even know it

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Re: suicide
« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2008, 04:00:24 AM »
If selfishness is a virtue, does that make suicide virtuous?

Really. Isn't it a great sin to have others suffer for you? Aren't you being irrationally selfish when you demand someone to stay alive, just for the sake of your not having to miss them, despite of the pain they might be enduring?

You can't live for the sake of someone else. That's not life. If someone feels like they want to put an end to it... Accept it, instead of trying to control their will to life. Quit assuming their guilt and blaming them for their suicide, when it was a rationally selfish decision. Go ahead and denounce rationality if you will.

P.S.: it sucks to hear about your brother's death, Wykid... There's something highly suspicious about that situation though, but I guess you'll never get to know the truth. Just stay strong about your own life, that's all you can do (and I assume you are doing ;)).
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2008, 10:34:23 AM »
when I quit smoking weed my emotional issues all fell into place I was a constant 247 smoker for 10 years...


that lasted about a year and a half...Im sparkin as we speak.



are you emotional again?
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #100 on: March 28, 2008, 10:36:05 AM »
If selfishness is a virtue, does that make suicide virtuous?

Really. Isn't it a great sin to have others suffer for you? Aren't you being irrationally selfish when you demand someone to stay alive, just for the sake of your not having to miss them, despite of the pain they might be enduring?

You can't live for the sake of someone else. That's not life. If someone feels like they want to put an end to it... Accept it, instead of trying to control their will to life. Quit assuming their guilt and blaming them for their suicide, when it was a rationally selfish decision. Go ahead and denounce rationality if you will.

P.S.: it sucks to hear about your brother's death, Wykid... There's something highly suspicious about that situation though, but I guess you'll never get to know the truth. Just stay strong about your own life, that's all you can do (and I assume you are doing ;)).


Sorry, but suicide is selfish, no matter what way you chop it up...It may be selfish to not want someone to commit suicide for your own sake, but that doesn't take away from how selfish commiting suicide actually is.
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #101 on: March 28, 2008, 11:05:34 AM »
If selfishness is a virtue, does that make suicide virtuous?

Really. Isn't it a great sin to have others suffer for you? Aren't you being irrationally selfish when you demand someone to stay alive, just for the sake of your not having to miss them, despite of the pain they might be enduring?

You can't live for the sake of someone else. That's not life. If someone feels like they want to put an end to it... Accept it, instead of trying to control their will to life. Quit assuming their guilt and blaming them for their suicide, when it was a rationally selfish decision. Go ahead and denounce rationality if you will.

P.S.: it sucks to hear about your brother's death, Wykid... There's something highly suspicious about that situation though, but I guess you'll never get to know the truth. Just stay strong about your own life, that's all you can do (and I assume you are doing ;)).


Sorry, but suicide is selfish, no matter what way you chop it up...It may be selfish to not want someone to commit suicide for your own sake, but that doesn't take away from how selfish commiting suicide actually is.

I didn't say it wasn't selfish; I'm saying that being selfish is the way to be. I'd rather be dead and considered a coward, than alive and in pain. Thank God I'm a hero. I'm that selfish.
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #102 on: March 28, 2008, 11:08:21 AM »
If selfishness is a virtue, does that make suicide virtuous?

Really. Isn't it a great sin to have others suffer for you? Aren't you being irrationally selfish when you demand someone to stay alive, just for the sake of your not having to miss them, despite of the pain they might be enduring?

You can't live for the sake of someone else. That's not life. If someone feels like they want to put an end to it... Accept it, instead of trying to control their will to life. Quit assuming their guilt and blaming them for their suicide, when it was a rationally selfish decision. Go ahead and denounce rationality if you will.

P.S.: it sucks to hear about your brother's death, Wykid... There's something highly suspicious about that situation though, but I guess you'll never get to know the truth. Just stay strong about your own life, that's all you can do (and I assume you are doing ;)).


Sorry, but suicide is selfish, no matter what way you chop it up...It may be selfish to not want someone to commit suicide for your own sake, but that doesn't take away from how selfish commiting suicide actually is.

I didn't say it wasn't selfish; I'm saying that being selfish is the way to be. I'd rather be dead and considered a coward, than alive and in pain. Thank God I'm a hero. I'm that selfish.


You have a terrible mindset...if everyone lived soley for themselves, this world would be worse than it is. Step it up. Self reliance is important, but that doesn't mean you have to live as a selfish asshole.
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2008, 08:26:51 AM »
If selfishness is a virtue, does that make suicide virtuous?

Really. Isn't it a great sin to have others suffer for you? Aren't you being irrationally selfish when you demand someone to stay alive, just for the sake of your not having to miss them, despite of the pain they might be enduring?

You can't live for the sake of someone else. That's not life. If someone feels like they want to put an end to it... Accept it, instead of trying to control their will to life. Quit assuming their guilt and blaming them for their suicide, when it was a rationally selfish decision. Go ahead and denounce rationality if you will.

P.S.: it sucks to hear about your brother's death, Wykid... There's something highly suspicious about that situation though, but I guess you'll never get to know the truth. Just stay strong about your own life, that's all you can do (and I assume you are doing ;)).


Sorry, but suicide is selfish, no matter what way you chop it up...It may be selfish to not want someone to commit suicide for your own sake, but that doesn't take away from how selfish commiting suicide actually is.

I didn't say it wasn't selfish; I'm saying that being selfish is the way to be. I'd rather be dead and considered a coward, than alive and in pain. Thank God I'm a hero. I'm that selfish.


You have a terrible mindset...if everyone lived soley for themselves, this world would be worse than it is. Step it up. Self reliance is important, but that doesn't mean you have to live as a selfish asshole.

The idea behind it is really simple. I undertake actions only with myself as the primary concern, whether it be aiming for joy or development. Other people are a secondary concern. Let me make this real practical by giving you some examples.

I went out last night with a long time female friend of mine. Why? Because I like hanging out with her. I wouldn't be hanging out with her if I didn't get something positive out of it; something that outweighs the negative aspects (such as having to travel 60 miles by train to spend a weekend in the dullness of my parents' area, spending money on drinks in a bar, spending my time). The positive aspects outweigh the negative, thus I did go for a drink with her. We had a good time, because we selfishly appreciate each other's company.
She asked me for some personal advice. Why did she do that? Because my opinion is valuable to her. Why did I give her the advice? Because I enjoy being of value to her. I enjoy giving advice when she needs it.
Later on, some other friends dropped by in the bar. One of them had been sick all week and was getting to feel somewhat better now, but he told me humbly that he had felt like shit, but he already felt better at the prospect of the amount of positive energy I bring about. I like being of such influence to them, because I value them highly and they are important to me. Had I not valued them highly, then should I have bothered spending my time with them? Of course not. But I felt good for making him feel better. Why? Because I value him highly. That's a pat on the shoulders for my own judgement. So much for being a selfish asshole, huh?

I don't give dimes to bums who demand the unearned. I don't give money to charity organizations to buy off the guilt they purposely try to feed me. They live by a moral code I don't approve of. I try to be as good as I can: always through investments; never through sacrifices.

Now what if life has become unbearable... That's a very selfish conclusion. If the people around you don't have the value to make your life more worth living, why should you sacrifice your pain for them? Suicide can be perfectly reasonable.
 

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Re: suicide
« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2008, 08:32:51 AM »
I'm saying that being selfish is the way to be.

Thank God I'm a hero. I'm that selfish.

Those posts you made are so true. Even a mother that dies for her kids is selfish. She sacrifices herself because she wants her kids to live.