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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2005, 01:05:27 PM »
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?
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see dude, you obviously have no knowledge as you obviously got no clue what you are talking about.
we talk to god thru our prayers. ........everybody, not just the pope.
the pope is just an important figure that leads the church. he is admired deeply, but not worshiped.
who ever is feeding you the bullshit you are saying needs to be slapped.
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2005, 01:32:31 PM »
he dont have power ....... yall bullshiting ......... just followers that give him power .... i really thought there was no more ppl trusting in god (18years old and younger)..... not a joke .... i was like WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON when everyone was talkin about the fuckin pope
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2005, 01:56:50 PM »
what do you mean by power?...
well he runs the catholic church, and controls the the laws in catholism.
if a priest decides to make his own rules in his church, he'll be outcasted and not recognised in the catholic church.
so if thats what you mean by power, then yes
but he dont control the believers. they do that on their own will
but he definately controlls how the catholic church is run
 

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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2005, 02:12:09 PM »
the fact that nearly every world leader was at the pope's funeral should tell you how much power he has
 

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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2005, 02:29:17 PM »
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the reason of that is coz he built alot of relationships with various leaders as he tours all around the world so much
 

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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2005, 03:18:28 PM »
Everybody was a member of the Hitlerjugend back then, it wasnt about killing Jews you dumbasses. It wasnt even very political, more like some pathfinding organisation for young people.
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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2005, 04:21:01 PM »
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?
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see dude, you obviously have no knowledge as you obviously got no clue what you are talking about.
we talk to god thru our prayers. ........everybody, not just the pope.
the pope is just an important figure that leads the church. he is admired deeply, but not worshiped.
who ever is feeding you the bullshit you are saying needs to be slapped.
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important

That's why I asked for somebody educated like MDogg to answer.

My mom's side of the family is Catholic, and my fathers side is baptist.  I grew up around it on my mothers side, so I have some idea about Catholisism although obviously worshipping a man as God or Gods son or praying to his mom and all the hypocrisy never interested me.  But I know people go into confession and ask for a priest to forgive them or something like that, so I don't see what was so unacceptable about my questions about the Pope.  Anyway, I don't want to be disrepectful to the Pope (and MDogg is one of the better posters here) .....so I'll stop there.
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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2005, 04:25:24 PM »
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.

Congrats: You're a failure at LIFE.
 

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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2005, 04:32:02 PM »
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.

Congrats: You're a failure at LIFE.
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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2005, 04:41:33 PM »
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.

Congrats: You're a failure at LIFE.

According to your worldview, I am a failure.  So I guess it's a good thing that I don't subscribe to your way of thinking.  Because in my way of thinking having an individual like yourself reject me is only further confirmation that Allah has accepted me in his path. 
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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2005, 04:48:31 PM »
According to your worldview, I am a failure.  So I guess it's a good thing that I don't subscribe to your way of thinking.  Because in my way of thinking having an individual like yourself reject me is only further confirmation that Allah has accepted me in his path. 
My worldview??? My way of thinking?!!! Do you mean the worldview and way of thinking of damn near everybody on the face of the planet? Where education and accomplishment are rewarded and ignorance and hatred are shunned?

Yeah. My worldview is the problem here...

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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2005, 09:53:33 PM »
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?
^
see dude, you obviously have no knowledge as you obviously got no clue what you are talking about.
we talk to god thru our prayers. ........everybody, not just the pope.
the pope is just an important figure that leads the church. he is admired deeply, but not worshiped.
who ever is feeding you the bullshit you are saying needs to be slapped.
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important

That's why I asked for somebody educated like MDogg to answer.

My mom's side of the family is Catholic, and my fathers side is baptist.  I grew up around it on my mothers side, so I have some idea about Catholisism although obviously worshipping a man as God or Gods son or praying to his mom and all the hypocrisy never interested me.  But I know people go into confession and ask for a priest to forgive them or something like that, so I don't see what was so unacceptable about my questions about the Pope.  Anyway, I don't want to be disrepectful to the Pope (and MDogg is one of the better posters here) .....so I'll stop there.


i hate infiinite's lil tactics of bringing the religion down then washing his hands at his ignorace.

i'd be an ASS HOLE if i sat here and said "


" i have a best friend who was muslum so i have some idea what that insane religion is about. i never got why so many people who follow a religion that was conceived by some random guy who said he was enlightened and proceeded to write a WHOLE new testiment of god for people to follow and to disregard the exhisting testiments of god  and the stories about the prophets and messiahs that were known at the time are now known a little bit differently.all this seemed a little batty to me, ::twirls finger in hair:: someone who's mooslum please clarify "

no one is tearing down your religion infiinite don't denigrate ours.

but i have a real question ...how come the pope changes his name? and what was pope john paul II's name before he was pope
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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2005, 10:06:04 PM »



i hate infiinite's lil tactics of bringing the religion down then washing his hands at his ignorace.

i'd be an ASS HOLE if i sat here and said "


" i have a best friend who was muslum so i have some idea what that insane religion is about. i never got why so many people who follow a religion that was conceived by some random guy who said he was enlightened and proceeded to write a WHOLE new testiment of god for people to follow and to disregard the exhisting testiments of god  and the stories about the prophets and messiahs that were known at the time are now known a little bit differently.all this seemed a little batty to me, ::twirls finger in hair:: someone who's mooslum please clarify "

no one is tearing down your religion infiinite don't denigrate ours.

but i have a real question ...how come the pope changes his name? and what was pope john paul II's name before he was pope

Actually, you can question my religion all you want.  The Noble Qu'ran is rooted in reality.  Islam is a practical religion.  We don't accept any intercessor's between us and God, we don't ascribe any man as being a representative of God.  We only worship the Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds and All the Systems of Knowledge.
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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2005, 10:07:37 PM »
So now we're questioning YOUR religion??!!!


LOL The gall of this bitch.
 

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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2005, 10:13:42 PM »
The former Pope let it be known up front that he was an unbeliever (in Islam).  Likewise, I'm letting it be known that I don't believe in Catholosism, I don't believe in a man being God (Jesus), I don't believe that the Creator of the worlds needed to send his son to learn forgiveness or to learn what suffering was, I don't believe in a man being an intermediary to God (pope).  Yet I still respect the Pope for working to biuld stronger, more peaceful relationships between Muslims and Catholics, and I am united with him in that struggle.  I saw that with my own eyes.  I have seen Catholic churches make efforts to spread awareness in their churches about the true Islam, and I applaud them in those efforts, I've worked with Catholic churches here locally.
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« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2005, 10:16:26 PM »



i hate infiinite's lil tactics of bringing the religion down then washing his hands at his ignorace.

i'd be an ASS HOLE if i sat here and said "


" i have a best friend who was muslum so i have some idea what that insane religion is about. i never got why so many people who follow a religion that was conceived by some random guy who said he was enlightened and proceeded to write a WHOLE new testiment of god for people to follow and to disregard the exhisting testiments of god  and the stories about the prophets and messiahs that were known at the time are now known a little bit differently.all this seemed a little batty to me, ::twirls finger in hair:: someone who's mooslum please clarify "

no one is tearing down your religion infiinite don't denigrate ours.

but i have a real question ...how come the pope changes his name? and what was pope john paul II's name before he was pope

Actually, you can question my religion all you want.  The Noble Qu'ran is rooted in reality.  Islam is a practical religion.  We don't accept any intercessor's between us and God, we don't ascribe any man as being a representative of God.  We only worship the Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds and All the Systems of Knowledge.

the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?


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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2005, 10:22:58 PM »



the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?

God has never changed his mind.  His message to mankind has been the same throughout time.  Worship God only, and do righteous good deeds.  That was the message Adam was given, that was the message Noah was given, that was the message Abraham was given, that was the message Jesus was given, that was the message Muhammad was given, that was the message that all the prophets (some of which are known and some unknown by man) were given. 

Muslims believe in much of the gospel.  If you read the Old Testament (Torah), the message is similar to the Noble Qu'ran.  The message is to worship God alone ascribing no partners to him, to follow the messengers, and to do righteous good deeds. 

Then after the Prophet Jesus died, Paul and others came along and altered the text of the bible and started teaching that Jesus was God, and that Jesus had died to save their sins.  So many fell into error because of this. 

The Qu'ran is God's final revelation to men, and Muhammad was not just sent to a people of one region, but the message he revealed was the final message and one in which God was sending to all of mankind.

..........so the only deviation we have is Paul and his people teaching that Jesus was God and that he died for our sins.  If you leave out that corruption, then Muhammad's monotheistic message is consistent with all other prophets before him.
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Re: Pope benedict XVI is the new pope!!!
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2005, 12:50:07 AM »
the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?
Jake, You gotta realize that you've gotta call a spade a spade...

If you ask a dunce about being stupid, He's gonna talk a whole bunch. That doesn't mean he's gonna say anything worth hearing.

Same with this dude.

He's an obvious bigot. The second you discuss something he says, or engage him in an argument, it vindicates all that bullshit that he just spewed and he's gonna think it counts for something.

The best way to deal with individuals like him (morons) is to not discuss the content, but point out his blatant bigotry.
 

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« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2005, 01:46:55 AM »
Everybody was a member of the Hitlerjugend back then, it wasnt about killing Jews you dumbasses. It wasnt even very political, more like some pathfinding organisation for young people.

Exactly. It was the same with italian Balillas (fasci-organizations of very young people who dressed black screaming Dux Mea Lux and who didnt even know what that means..). Shit some of you are paranoid. Karol Wojtyla joined the Nazi-army when he was young!! Cause he was forced to. There was a World War going on.. Ratzinger didnt kill people, he didnt kill jews. Shit he was so young back then he didnt even knew the world, but he knew only the Hitler version of the world! It's like if you went to Afghanistain 3 years ago. Females didnt even know in 99.9% of the rest of the world females use to go to school and have a real life with the same rights of males. It's like Cubans till a pair of weeks ago: they didnt even know the Pope was been in the Hospital and shit. They only told them he died. Ratzinger and Wojtyla grew up under the Nazism. Ratzinger in Germany, Wojtyla in Poland. Same drama, different places.
 

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« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2005, 07:46:00 AM »
I wanted that african guy
you wanted the african guy, but he would of been just as conservative and maybe even more hardline than the new pope.
are u cool with that?...
i wouldnt of minded if he became pope, but i dont hope for someone to be pope just coz "they should have someone that is black" . i hope for someone to keep the catholic church in its orthodox state like it should be. if he's black or he asian or indian or european etc it doesnt matter to me.its not important

it doesn't matter 2 me 2 but he sounded like a good choice for being the new pope, and he aint such an oldie... they need a younger pope :/ and make Christians believe again... do somethin about the church...

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« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2005, 08:32:14 AM »
You're a fucking dunce. You won't stop there. You'll continue to ask stupid ass questions about a religion not to know the answers, but to try to make it look bad.


Isnt it ironic?




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the Qu'ran came after the Bible right? so either God just totally changed his mind or the bible was all fiction to begin with.  which is it?

God has never changed his mind.  His message to mankind has been the same throughout time.  Worship God only, and do righteous good deeds.  That was the message Adam was given, that was the message Noah was given, that was the message Abraham was given, that was the message Jesus was given, that was the message Muhammad was given, that was the message that all the prophets (some of which are known and some unknown by man) were given. 

Muslims believe in much of the gospel.  If you read the Old Testament (Torah), the message is similar to the Noble Qu'ran.  The message is to worship God alone ascribing no partners to him, to follow the messengers, and to do righteous good deeds. 

Then after the Prophet Jesus died, Paul and others came along and altered the text of the bible and started teaching that Jesus was God, and that Jesus had died to save their sins.  So many fell into error because of this. 

The Qu'ran is God's final revelation to men, and Muhammad was not just sent to a people of one region, but the message he revealed was the final message and one in which God was sending to all of mankind.

..........so the only deviation we have is Paul and his people teaching that Jesus was God and that he died for our sins.  If you leave out that corruption, then Muhammad's monotheistic message is consistent with all other prophets before him.


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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2005, 11:52:02 AM »
So according to Catholics, when does he get to start talking to God?  Is it before, or after he's elected?  Don't Catholics believe he can forgive their sins and talk to God, etc.?

I don't believe in all that intercession and all that, but I'll be respectful because the last Pope worked to biuld stronger relationships with Muslims and he was driven towards World Peace.

Still, could one of the educated Catholics like MDogg explain to me exactly what the Popes role is and what, if any, relationship he has to God?

according to what catholics ? anyone can talk to God, the role of the pope is to guide catholics.... the Pope should understand, know, study and be absolutely devoted to the work of God and Jesus Christ... It isn't anywhere near thinking as soon as he is elected he can speak to God, that is non-sense....