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Albums that you can't believe are...
« on: July 25, 2002, 12:04:37 PM »
considered classics and albums that you believe are dope but got shitted on.

There are a few these for me.
To start:  Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death

He's one of my favorites emcees but I just don't see how this album is a classic.  It is very watered down with a lot of filler material. 24 tracks and I'd be stretching it to say half are great songs.  The first 2 singles are have shitty pop beats and wack hooks. The terrible "Playa Hater" where Biggie attempts to sing is just wack.  It's just an album that I can't pop it and let the CD ride, I HAVE to hit the forward button too many times.  I'm not even going to comment on how this got 5 Mics.

The W is an album that really is a lot better than people give credit.  13 tracks kept really tight. The Busta track is the only one I don't really like.  Rza really comes thru with the production on this album.  I don't like the fact a 9-10 man  crew has 4 guest spots on a 13 track album but Snoop, Nas and Redman all come thru.  It's an album that you can let ride.
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Re: Albums that you can't believe are...
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2002, 12:12:55 PM »
I thought Life After death Was Great. Way Better than Ready 2 Die. True it had alot of filler tracks and he could have made a one CD album. But its a classic IMO. I dont consider any of the Wu tang albums classic cause I cant stand them
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2002, 01:20:07 PM »
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I thought Life After death Was Great. Way Better than Ready 2 Die. True it had alot of filler tracks and he could have made a one CD album. But its a classic IMO. I dont consider any of the Wu tang albums classic cause I cant stand them


36 chambers is definatly a classic, and wu forever is as near classic as it can get....
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Re: Albums that you can't believe are...
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2002, 02:18:44 PM »
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I dont consider any of the Wu tang albums classic cause I cant stand them




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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2002, 02:27:33 PM »
THOUGH ILLMATIC IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE CD'S IT'S REALLY AN EP.  IT ONLY HAS 9 SONGS  THOUGH ALL 9 SONGS ARE CLASSIC THE ALBUM IS NOT LONG ENOUGH FOR ME TO RIDE TO THE CORNER STORE.  ALSO AQUMINI I THINK THE ALBUM IS GREAT BUT I DONT LISTEN TO IT ANYMORE AS A MATTER OF FACT I TOOK IT BACK FOR SOMETHING ELSE.  THEIR FIRST LP IS CLASSIC THOUGH.

ONE ALBUM I THINK GETS SHITTED ON IS DOGG FOOD, ITS OVERLOOKED BY THE OTHER DEATHROW CLASSICS LIKE DOGGYSTYLE,CHRONIC AND ALL EYES ON ME.  BUT DOOGFOOD IS A CLASSIC IN MY BOOK
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2002, 03:31:36 PM »
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THOUGH ILLMATIC IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE CD'S IT'S REALLY AN EP.  IT ONLY HAS 9 SONGS  THOUGH ALL 9 SONGS ARE CLASSIC THE ALBUM IS NOT LONG ENOUGH FOR ME TO RIDE TO THE CORNER STORE.  ALSO AQUMINI I THINK THE ALBUM IS GREAT BUT I DONT LISTEN TO IT ANYMORE AS A MATTER OF FACT I TOOK IT BACK FOR SOMETHING ELSE.  THEIR FIRST LP IS CLASSIC THOUGH.

ONE ALBUM I THINK GETS SHITTED ON IS DOGG FOOD, ITS OVERLOOKED BY THE OTHER DEATHROW CLASSICS LIKE DOGGYSTYLE,CHRONIC AND ALL EYES ON ME.  BUT DOOGFOOD IS A CLASSIC IN MY BOOK

id like to add...if people can consider any mobb deep album classic then Psycho Active by X-Raided and Season of Da Siccness by Brotha Lynch can be considered classic....Stillmatic is not classic....Nor is BluePrint...i think Crip Hop and AngHellic by Jayo Felony and TechN9ne respectively are really tight, solid but very slept on albums...people bashed the jayo cuz he got at their favorite artists...being snoop and jayz....people dont understand TechN9ne....hes too innovative for some people...also hes not west or east coast so he loses points for that....
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Re: Albums that you can't believe are...
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2002, 09:24:55 PM »
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so what you got a problem with that or what. do i hav to like em to be a hip hop head? i just cant stand any of them, except for method man, he had a decent album. too hard to understand?
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Re: Albums that you can't believe are...
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2002, 04:53:56 AM »
albums I consider classics:

murder was the case
friday
luniz operation stackola
celly cel killa kali
wc the shadiest one
daz rr&gb
spice 1 187 he wrote
spice 1 amerikkkas nightmare
the click game related
eazy e 187um its on
outkast atliens
eastsidaz eastsidaz

albums I think are overated:
all 3 eminem albums

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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2002, 05:05:54 AM »
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albums I consider classics:

murder was the case
friday
luniz operation stackola
celly cel killa kali
wc the shadiest one
daz rr&gb
spice 1 187 he wrote
spice 1 amerikkkas nightmare
the click game related
eazy e 187um its on
outkast atliens
eastsidaz eastsidaz

That list is waaay to westcoast influenced. Nas-Illmatic, ever heard of that????? You can't say that friday is better than illmatic, Even Soul on ice can murder that whole cd with one of its songs.
I don't agree with Eastsidaz either. NEAR CLASSIC. Don't get me wrong its a very dope cd, but not a classic.
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Re: Albums that you can't believe are...
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2002, 05:07:13 AM »
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id like to add...if people can consider any mobb deep album classic then Psycho Active by X-Raided and Season of Da Siccness by Brotha Lynch can be considered classic....Stillmatic is not classic....Nor is BluePrint...i think Crip Hop and AngHellic by Jayo Felony and TechN9ne respectively are really tight, solid but very slept on albums...people bashed the jayo cuz he got at their favorite artists...being snoop and jayz....people dont understand TechN9ne....hes too innovative for some people...also hes not west or east coast so he loses points for that....

I agree 100%
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2002, 05:21:52 AM »
Im not even gonna jump into this hot water.. Lets just say that:

Illmatic is a BIG TYME CLASSIC

36 Chambers.. BIG TYME CLASSIC

Yall know Im down with the West.. so there aint no need in me naming WC albums as classics.  I agree with all on the West.. too many albums to name as classics out the West.

But even you "Jay.." cant deny that Wu'z first album was classic.  It broke ground.  Id venture to say that all 1 Generation Wu albums broke ground and Im not a Wu Fan.  Illmatic being 10 tracks.. is what helped it become a classic.  All heaters.. no filler.  Nas will never live up to that album.

Biggies 2nd.. was no where near a classic IMO.  (shit.. Im running my mouth.. and I didnt want to get into this mess... oh well..)

It could have easily been trimmed down to an ALMOST CLASSIC single disk album.  Biggie had flow.. but  he didnt live what he talked about like Pac.  The beats where JIGGY EASTY style.  Not a classic IMO.

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Re: Albums that you can't believe are...
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2002, 05:29:51 AM »
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That list is waaay to westcoast influenced. Nas-Illmatic, ever heard of that?? You can't say that friday is better than illmatic, Even Soul on ice can murder that whole cd with one of its songs.  
I don't agree with Eastsidaz either. NEAR CLASSIC. Don't get me wrong its a very dope cd, but not a classic.


That is just my opinion man.  I don't listen to hardley any eastcoast music at all.  The only eastcoast album I have ever owned is Nas It Was Written, which I really liked.  Nas is tight, but the music that I really dig is the west coast gangsta shit.  You have your opinion and I have mine, and no opinion is either right or wrong.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2002, 06:12:16 AM »
You'll broaden your horizens one day...i am a fan of all hip hop not just west coast.and i used to be one of them straight up west coast Gangsta rap fans and now look.
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2002, 06:31:01 AM »
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You'll broaden your horizens one day...i am a fan of all hip hop not just west coast.and i used to be one of them straight up west coast Gangsta rap fans and now look.


Yeah, Im startin too listen to other shit 2...Just wonderin, was Makaveli considered a classic? And what bout 40 dayz & 40 nights? Both of those albums are StR8 classic in my book!
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2002, 06:54:45 AM »
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I dont consider any of the Wu tang albums classic cause I cant stand them


Me neither
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2002, 07:05:15 AM »
life after death was 3.5 mics AT BEST. you can tell it was too much puffy influenced

illmatic, 36 chambers, infamous is all 5 mics, hip-hop classics.

eastsidaz is NOT a classic, about 4 mics

the click game related 3 mics

eazy-e 187um 4 mics

outkast atliens 5 mics

friday ost 4 mics

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Re: Albums that you can't believe are...
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2002, 07:16:16 AM »
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considered classics and albums that you believe are dope but got shitted on.

Kurupt - Space Boogie. Dope album, but everyone even in here hated it...

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2002, 07:31:44 AM »

The W is really a great album!   8)
But I wouldn't call it a classic...
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2002, 07:34:12 AM »
Here's 3 albums that come to mind that I feel are strongly overlooked and underrated:

It Was Written (almost classic imo. When it dropped I remember it getting mad hated on by critics who were expecting another Illmatic. Sure it's not on Illmatic's level but it's better than alot of albums that dropped that year and have dropped since. There were 1-2 good tracks, the rest I either love or think are classic cuts, worth every penny imo).

Sticky Fingaz - Black Trash.... (I love this album, another almost classic album imo. I don't hear people 'shitting' on it but I don't hear it get enough recognition either. It's a really innovative LP, great beats, great concepts and great lyrics, what more could you want??).

Warren G - Return Of The Regulator (When the advance of this dropped I remember it getting quite a good response but then all of a sudden everyone started hating on it. I love this album, it's a solid effort from Warren, his second best imo. Some of his best production in years and he stepped up lyrically aswell. Quite a few deep and meaningful tracks were included which is what I like to hear, and it had that signiture Warren sound that has you nodding your head constantly. Great stuff, pity it was overlooked by alot of people).
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2002, 08:24:08 AM »
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You'll broaden your horizens one day...i am a fan of all hip hop not just west coast.and i used to be one of them straight up west coast Gangsta rap fans and now look.

cant nobody say im not diverse in what i listen to...i can be bumpin some snoop one minute the next im bumpin freestyle fellowship...next thing u know im bumpin my screw tapes...or im loadin up the soundbombin cds...u walk to into my room ull see every kind of rap cd...from south commercial and underground to midwest underground...i got it all....im all about diversity.....
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2002, 04:51:19 PM »
none of nas's albums are classic...the w is a classic....warren g's rotr was good...for 2weeks.....and life after death is barely a classic
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2002, 06:57:28 AM »
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none of nas's albums are classic...


You should really listen to the albums before you post that foolishness.  Nas did make an album called Illmatic.
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