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Re: Knuckles' countdown: The Greatest 50 Hip-hop Albums Ever
« Reply #125 on: August 23, 2005, 06:42:40 PM »
Its not hate. Whatever Knuckles says, its his opinion, he backs it up with some points. That is not hating. And Im far from hating too.

Nobody said BTNH was wack
Nobody said E.1999 sucked ass without saying why

that would be hating. Thinking E.1999 was ok/good, but hardly top 100 material AND stating why is not hating. Or, respectively, if that is hating, then the other section is, simple and plain, dickriding. Neither is true, so stop talking about hating, looks kinda weak IMO. Knuckles or the others didnt tell you to "let go of their nuts" or something either....peace
 

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« Reply #126 on: August 23, 2005, 08:24:00 PM »
Yo knuckles can you re-up some of the albums.  When my computer crashed i lost a few of them i had downloaded.  If you cant its no biggie
 

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« Reply #127 on: August 23, 2005, 10:43:37 PM »
One thing I still hate... I've been waiting for ages for "Criminal minded" to pop up in the list. That album is extremely hard to get in the stores these days and I never heard it... Just as I went on a vacation, the day after I left Knuckles hooked the album up. Of course, I missed the hookup :-\

Hard to get in stores?? Maybe in Holland...Ill hook you up with wmas if you want...?

Mmmm... Nah, since it's said to be one of the greatest hiphop albums ever, I might as well just take the guess and see if I can buy it somewhere for $30 :P

If you were being ironic, tell me, cause I know there are people who would do that....

Not being ironic... There's plenty of albums I bought for $30, just most of them aren't that old, and most of them are easier to get. This one should be worth the effort though.
 

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« Reply #128 on: August 23, 2005, 10:55:38 PM »
so you listed all these albums most people havent even and heard of... then you go on and say you havent even heard e.1999 ? but you listened to a whole lot of bullshit unknown albums ?? wtf man.

people that dont like hip-hop i have introduced to bone and they went out and baught their cd's.... what does that tell you ?

p.S: notorious thugs is off "life after death". and devin tha dude or red-man cannot make better weed songs...

Most people that listen to hip-hop have heard of these albums. I never said I haven't heard e.1999. hahaha @ "bullshit unknown albums"

It doesn't tell me much actually.

I know that's where it's from. They have nothing on Redman or Devin.

Are you kidding me? What's up with dubcc underrating Bone Thugs? Even on pop forums they get more appreciation.

dubcc is overrating bone, I've never noticed them get this much love anywhere else.

you earlier said the only songs you heard out of a list someone wrote you only heard 'notorious thugs', for the love of tha $ is off e.1999.... if you havent heard for tha love of tha $ you havent heard e.1999...

p.S: maybe i havent heard all those old school east-coast albums, but i will tell you that i downloaded only a few of them and they were bullshit... some of the most boring albums i have ever heard..... just because they were made in the 80's doesnt mean they are better than the best albums that came out in rap history (during 92-96).... thats where all the classics came out, thats when hip-hop was at its peak, not in the fuckin 80's...

 

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« Reply #129 on: August 23, 2005, 11:04:22 PM »
i still like the list tho, and appreciate the effort ofcourse... just feel like being a cunt  ;D
 

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« Reply #130 on: August 24, 2005, 03:43:38 AM »
so you listed all these albums most people havent even and heard of... then you go on and say you havent even heard e.1999 ? but you listened to a whole lot of bullshit unknown albums ?? wtf man.

people that dont like hip-hop i have introduced to bone and they went out and baught their cd's.... what does that tell you ?

p.S: notorious thugs is off "life after death". and devin tha dude or red-man cannot make better weed songs...

Most people that listen to hip-hop have heard of these albums. I never said I haven't heard e.1999. hahaha @ "bullshit unknown albums"

It doesn't tell me much actually.

I know that's where it's from. They have nothing on Redman or Devin.

Are you kidding me? What's up with dubcc underrating Bone Thugs? Even on pop forums they get more appreciation.

dubcc is overrating bone, I've never noticed them get this much love anywhere else.

you earlier said the only songs you heard out of a list someone wrote you only heard 'notorious thugs', for the love of tha $ is off e.1999.... if you havent heard for tha love of tha $ you havent heard e.1999...

p.S: maybe i havent heard all those old school east-coast albums, but i will tell you that i downloaded only a few of them and they were bullshit... some of the most boring albums i have ever heard..... just because they were made in the 80's doesnt mean they are better than the best albums that came out in rap history (during 92-96).... thats where all the classics came out, thats when hip-hop was at its peak, not in the fuckin 80's...

My copy of E. 1999 Eternal doesn't have a song called "For the love of tha $"?

And about you not appreciating the eastcoast and the 80s... Just because you don't enjoy it, doesn't mean others won't. I'll take Illmatic, By All Means Necessary, Enta Da Stage, Long Live The Kane, Midnight Marauders or Breaking Atoms over your favorite kurupt, jayo felony and 2pac albums, any day.
 

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« Reply #131 on: August 24, 2005, 05:06:22 AM »
One thing I still hate... I've been waiting for ages for "Criminal minded" to pop up in the list. That album is extremely hard to get in the stores these days and I never heard it... Just as I went on a vacation, the day after I left Knuckles hooked the album up. Of course, I missed the hookup :-\

Hard to get in stores?? Maybe in Holland...Ill hook you up with wmas if you want...?

Mmmm... Nah, since it's said to be one of the greatest hiphop albums ever, I might as well just take the guess and see if I can buy it somewhere for $30 :P

If you were being ironic, tell me, cause I know there are people who would do that....

Not being ironic... There's plenty of albums I bought for $30, just most of them aren't that old, and most of them are easier to get. This one should be worth the effort though.

cool. But just to have you warned, if you tend to find 80s shit sounds a lil dated, "Criminal Minded" will be no exception. Undoubtedly classic as it is, I could never get into it, so I would have regretted spending 30 dollars. I spent about 15, which is quite cheap in Switzerland...CDs a milestone tho, no doubt...it just sounds as old as it is IMO
 

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« Reply #132 on: August 24, 2005, 05:48:40 AM »
Yes, the 80s do sound dated, but I love that dated sound. It's not like I would be jumping in a dark black hole by buying Criminal Minded, as I already own By All Means Necessary and I love it. I'm well aware that Criminal Minded might sound somewhat older, but hey, I also love what Run DMC and Eric B & Rakim did back then, so it's pretty much a sure shot.

Anyways, Makaveli11 already hooked me up with the album, so that'll do for now. I might still buy it some time, but for now I can check it out. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but I'll get into that really soon.
 

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« Reply #133 on: August 24, 2005, 06:00:07 AM »
you earlier said the only songs you heard out of a list someone wrote you only heard 'notorious thugs', for the love of tha $ is off e.1999.... if you havent heard for tha love of tha $ you havent heard e.1999...

I never said I haven't heard "For The Love Of Tha $" I said I never heard OF it. I might have listened to it but forgot about it. For example, I listened to the last Snoop album but I can only remember the names of the singles cause I deleted that shit after three spins. So if someone ask if I heard of some specific Snoop song from that album I'd probably say no because I couldn't remember the song or song title.

p.S: maybe i havent heard all those old school east-coast albums, but i will tell you that i downloaded only a few of them and they were bullshit... some of the most boring albums i have ever heard...

Well, that's your opinion. Many, many people think otherwise including your favourite rappers.

just because they were made in the 80's doesnt mean they are better than the best albums that came out in rap history (during 92-96).... thats where all the classics came out, thats when hip-hop was at its peak, not in the fuckin 80's...

That's bullshit, you don't know what you're talking about.
 

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« Reply #134 on: August 24, 2005, 06:27:33 AM »
just because they were made in the 80's doesnt mean they are better than the best albums that came out in rap history (during 92-96).... thats where all the classics came out, thats when hip-hop was at its peak, not in the fuckin 80's...

That's bullshit, you don't know what you're talking about.

No, he doesnt, but 92-96 was nevertheless a great era. My personal favorite too
 

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« Reply #135 on: August 24, 2005, 09:29:25 AM »
cant fuck wit most albums released between 92-96 they r all classics!
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« Reply #136 on: August 24, 2005, 11:31:58 AM »
I own some 80's hip hop albums, but other then It Takes A Nation and Straight Outta Compton, I dont really listen to them on the regular. They just sound too dated for my taste. Sure, they had a alot of impact, but the stuff from the 90's is far better musically and in some cases lyrically.

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« Reply #137 on: August 24, 2005, 11:36:43 AM »

My copy of E. 1999 Eternal doesn't have a song called "For the love of tha $"?


It's not on that album. "For Tha Love Of $" is from "Creepin On Ah Come Up".
 

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« Reply #138 on: August 24, 2005, 02:11:49 PM »
you earlier said the only songs you heard out of a list someone wrote you only heard 'notorious thugs', for the love of tha $ is off e.1999.... if you havent heard for tha love of tha $ you havent heard e.1999...


My copy of E. 1999 Eternal doesn't have a song called "For the love of tha $"?


It's not on that album. "For Tha Love Of $" is from "Creepin On Ah Come Up".

Now that makes sense, don't it?


I own some 80's hip hop albums, but other then It Takes A Nation and Straight Outta Compton, I dont really listen to them on the regular. They just sound too dated for my taste. Sure, they had a alot of impact, but the stuff from the 90's is far better musically and in some cases lyrically.

Does anyone here honestly think Paid In Full or Criminal Minded has better production then All Eyez on Me, Illmatic, OB4CL, Chronic, Aquemini, etc etc??

Production wise... Maybe, the mid 90s was when the head bobbing beats were dominating, but that's not only what I listen to hiphop for. As for myself, the emcee is more important than the production. And damn well in most of the cases the oldschool production is top notch as well - it just sounds harder and more outdated. Yes, I listen quite a lot to music from the 80s (mostly the certified classics) and I fully enjoy it. Isn't it a little hypocrite to be listening to rap music, not for it's raps but for the beats?
 

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« Reply #139 on: August 24, 2005, 02:58:37 PM »
^who said the emcee's were not great in the 90's if not more lyrical and better songwriters? I consider 91-96 to be the peak of hip hop musically and lyrically.
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« Reply #140 on: August 24, 2005, 04:03:31 PM »
lol at the Love of $ thing :D
 

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« Reply #141 on: August 24, 2005, 10:02:15 PM »
you earlier said the only songs you heard out of a list someone wrote you only heard 'notorious thugs', for the love of tha $ is off e.1999.... if you havent heard for tha love of tha $ you havent heard e.1999...


My copy of E. 1999 Eternal doesn't have a song called "For the love of tha $"?


It's not on that album. "For Tha Love Of $" is from "Creepin On Ah Come Up".

Now that makes sense, don't it?


I own some 80's hip hop albums, but other then It Takes A Nation and Straight Outta Compton, I dont really listen to them on the regular. They just sound too dated for my taste. Sure, they had a alot of impact, but the stuff from the 90's is far better musically and in some cases lyrically.

Does anyone here honestly think Paid In Full or Criminal Minded has better production then All Eyez on Me, Illmatic, OB4CL, Chronic, Aquemini, etc etc??

Production wise... Maybe, the mid 90s was when the head bobbing beats were dominating, but that's not only what I listen to hiphop for. As for myself, the emcee is more important than the production. And damn well in most of the cases the oldschool production is top notch as well - it just sounds harder and more outdated. Yes, I listen quite a lot to music from the 80s (mostly the certified classics) and I fully enjoy it. Isn't it a little hypocrite to be listening to rap music, not for it's raps but for the beats?

c'mon man, of course I listen to it for the lyrics as much as the beats.....probably moreso for the lyrics. But, if the beat bores me to death, it isnt gonna be very easy for me to enjoy it, even if the lyrics are dope.
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« Reply #142 on: August 25, 2005, 04:58:00 AM »
Doggystyle should be in the top 10 and why ain't Dogg Food in the top 50..it should be
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« Reply #143 on: August 25, 2005, 05:38:46 AM »
Doggystyle should be in the top 10 and why ain't Dogg Food in the top 50..it should be

how many albums in the list have you heard? Honestly?

...Im not saying youve got no point, but Dogg Food wasnt that big...top 100 maybe. Doggystyle top 10, maybe 9 or 10, not any higher IMO
 

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« Reply #144 on: August 25, 2005, 05:50:12 AM »
Dogg Food is 93 on the lists i make for fun/

#1 is Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus. cant figure out how that one was overlooked
 

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« Reply #145 on: August 25, 2005, 10:41:36 AM »
^who said the emcee's were not great in the 90's if not more lyrical and better songwriters? I consider 91-96 to be the peak of hip hop musically and lyrically.

c'mon man, of course I listen to it for the lyrics as much as the beats.....probably moreso for the lyrics. But, if the beat bores me to death, it isnt gonna be very easy for me to enjoy it, even if the lyrics are dope.

I guess it's just a matter of taste then, about how much you really dig them oldschool beats. I personally love the style. That definately won't bore me to death, and it really doesn't take a great beat to make a great song imo.
 

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« Reply #146 on: August 25, 2005, 10:46:08 AM »
@ G-Funk:
Is there a possibility for you to upload Dogg Food?
Cause I'm lookin' for that album for a long time but can't find it in the cd-stores or on the internet.
 

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« Reply #147 on: August 25, 2005, 11:56:14 AM »
@ G-Funk:
Is there a possibility for you to upload Dogg Food?
Cause I'm lookin' for that album for a long time but can't find it in the cd-stores or on the internet.

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« Reply #148 on: August 25, 2005, 11:57:47 AM »
Doggystyle should be in the top 10 and why ain't Dogg Food in the top 50..it should be

how many albums in the list have you heard? Honestly?

...Im not saying youve got no point, but Dogg Food wasnt that big...top 100 maybe. Doggystyle top 10, maybe 9 or 10, not any higher IMO
i've heard every album on the list and I own atleast half of the album's on the list and I think Doggystyle atleast should be top 10
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« Reply #149 on: August 26, 2005, 07:50:05 PM »
yeah, well fuck you all...  8)