why are women in Islam to wear veils ?

[Shallow]

why do they have to wear those big clothes all the time ? i was told in Egypt they bust hella fassion under the clothes but its only to wear at home... and i know the ones that wear black had a death in the family, therefor they wear black for the rest of their lives... is this the norm in Muslim religion ? is it taught in the Qur'an ?

and why do some of em only have their eyes poking out ? is it coz the men feel insecure ?

In Western society, man's natural inclination towards sex has been mass marketed for profit and severely manipulated.  In Western culture, you find women putting makeup on, getting all dressed up and sexy to go out in public to attract attention, and then when they get home around their husband they dress down and throw on some jogging pants and a t-shirt--This is backwards! 

However, in Islamic culture, one who is living in a natural state (fitrah), does not view sex as an end in itself, but rather a means to an end.  Yes, men have a natural inclination towards sex.  Yet in Islam, sex is used for the purpose of bringing closeness, intimacy, and safety into a relationship between husband and wife and for the purpose of bring about righteous children.

A women has two choices.  She can exploit a man's natural inclination towards sex, by bringing about temptation and creating distraction in a man's heart, and diverting him from his duties to his Lord, his wife, his family, etc.   Or a woman can protect a man's dignity and virtue by dressing in a decent and appropriate manner, and only displaying her beauty to those within her own family. 

And it's not just dress.  It is modesty in behaivor.  It is not enough for the Muslim to just dress appropriately, it is also modesty in behaivor, and it is a virtue to be shy when encountering the opposite sex.

.......btw, Muslim women wearing black has nothing to do with a death in the family.

Why do you always fail to understand that it is not about dressing sexy, it is about choice. Everytime someone brings this up you make it seem like every western woman dresses in a thong bikini. What about a girl that comes out with her hair in a pony tail, no make up, and baggy sweat pants with a big sweater? In certain parts of of the Islamic world she would be punished with violence, with fuck heads like you accepting it like it was okay to punish her. The problem doesn't lie in the woman who choose to cover themselves up, it lies in the woman that have to cover themselves up or else.

I don't even know why I, (or anyone for that matter), bother with you. You clearly cannot be as stupid as you portray yourself on this forum. Shit you might not even be a Muslim. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing just a big act to get a rise out of everyone that used to make fun of you for praising Tupac as more than human, or claiming Dr. Dre had more musical talent than Beethoven.

Even if you are muslim, it doesn't mean you have to act like a retard. I know plenty of muslims; devout from the beginning, casual but raised muslim, and even converts. None them are even remotely as stupid as pretend to be. Grow the fuck up already, it's getting old. Actually it got old a really long time ago. Surely you have something better to do with your time than frequent a hip hop forum under the guise of a wise Muslim elder and judge everything from people's taste in music outside hip hop to philosophies on life.

lol even the most humble of us crack at some point...

Only when it's Infinite. It's not so much cracking as it is just treating an idiot different from intelligent people. There's no one else on the forum I'd respond to like that. (not even Trauma).

[OneHittaSpitta]

First off, im not religious at all. But some of you muthafuckas are really annoying lol. How come its ok to look down upon an entire religion (islam) based on SOME of the negative things that SOME of its followers might do, and pretend as if there are no positives. Especially coming from the Christians on here, who worship the same Bible that the KKK does? Should all the Muslims on the board post up pics of lynchings committed by the KKK on COMPLETELY INNOCENT black people, and say "wow...look at you Christians, you animals!"?

[Trauma-san]

Women in Islam wear Veils because if they don't, they're killed.  Mainly that's the reason they wear them.

Women in America sometimes wear long dresses, and dress modestly, because they want to.  If they want to wear less, that's their choice and they won't be punished or killed for it, because they're free to do what ever they want, as long as they dont' hurt anybody or deny someone else's rights. 

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

[OneHittaSpitta]

Women in Islam wear Veils because if they don't, they're killed.  Mainly that's the reason they wear them.

Women in America sometimes wear long dresses, and dress modestly, because they want to.  If they want to wear less, that's their choice and they won't be punished or killed for it, because they're free to do what ever they want, as long as they dont' hurt anybody or deny someone else's rights. 

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

or their parents make them go to Christian and Catholic schools as kids, where theyre forcefed a bunch of bullshit. Then, because of the pressure placed on them by our society, when they become teenagers they develop a severe eating dissorder and possibly some sort of drug addiction which a minimum wage job just wont be able to afford so they turn and sell their pussy for crack on the streets....

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

[Thirteen]

Women in Islam wear Veils because if they don't, they're killed.  Mainly that's the reason they wear them.

Women in America sometimes wear long dresses, and dress modestly, because they want to.  If they want to wear less, that's their choice and they won't be punished or killed for it, because they're free to do what ever they want, as long as they dont' hurt anybody or deny someone else's rights. 

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

or their parents make them go to Christian and Catholic schools as kids, where theyre forcefed a bunch of bullshit. Then, because of the pressure placed on them by our society, when they become teenagers they develop a severe eating dissorder and possibly some sort of drug addiction which a minimum wage job just wont be able to afford so they turn and sell their pussy for crack on the streets....

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

it's still their choice.

in some places, arabic women can't even do a 1/3 of those things without being punished

[mauzip]

* Mauzip blesses America!

[notorious^q8I]

wtf r yall talkin about lol
am cracking up in here lol
yall think women get killed for their clothes lol
am sorry
it was MY mistake trying to discuss an issue with a buncha ignorant mutha fuckaz lol
i am sorry... but seriously where do u get ur info from pplz??

[Thirteen]

wtf r yall talkin about lol
am cracking up in here lol
yall think women get killed for their clothes lol
am sorry
it was MY mistake trying to discuss an issue with a buncha ignorant mutha fuckaz lol
i am sorry... but seriously where do u get ur info from pplz??

how about under taliban rule in afghanistan where it was required by law for a woman to cover almost her entire body while out in public, and taht she could not leave her house without being escorted by a male familty member

punishment for breaking these rules were usually held like concerts in a soccer staduim (soccer was banned under taliban rule) and punishments included stoning, trampling by horses, execution, and gang rape to anme a few

i thought this was common knowledge but i guess you get more accurate info elsewhere

[notorious^q8I]

^^ i wont argue if woman killing was a reality or juss some movie captions posted on kazaa

any ways u cannot judge a religion just because taliban killed women
taliban r muslims..... they dont represent islam...they made their money off sellin hasheesh to other musli
so if one christian is down with the KKK and killed a nigga that means that allchristians kill niggaz??
does that mean that hcristianity tells u kill black ppl???
u gotta THINK before dissin a whole relegion
all u guys heared about islam is taliban, saddam, iran in the 1970's and rich saudi arabians with 4 wives
thats all u know

[Thirteen]

^^ i wont argue if woman killing was a reality or juss some movie captions posted on kazaa

any ways u cannot judge a religion just because taliban killed women
taliban r muslims..... they dont represent islam...they made their money off sellin hasheesh to other musli
so if one christian is down with the KKK and killed a nigga that means that allchristians kill niggaz??
does that mean that hcristianity tells u kill black ppl???
u gotta THINK before dissin a whole relegion
all u guys heared about islam is taliban, saddam, iran in the 1970's and rich saudi arabians with 4 wives
thats all u know

you're preaching to the choir, i never said islam was to blame, i just pointed out that arabic women have been killed for their clothes...and it was done by a supposed religious fanatical government

i might joke around and speak in absolutes, but i realize that not all muslims/islamic people are bent on killing everyone. just the majority of the ones you see or read about in the news

just like all americans are considered stupid fat christian hicks because of our government leader

[notorious^q8I]

^^ an important thing i need to point out
THERE RNT ANY ARAB WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN
AFGHANISTAN IS NOT AN ARABIC COUNTRY
THEY SPEAK PASHTO AND ORDO NOT ARABIC
thats the main thing i always fuss about
islam=terrorists=arab=rich saudi arabians=killing women=smelly middle eastrens=ppl who like to blow thei self up to kill jewish kids

yall need to get to know the other side of the world a bit more

[Thirteen]

Large groups of Sunni Arab living in the vicinity of Bokhara in Central Asia fled to northeastern Afghanistan following Russian conquests in the nineteenth century. By the 1880s they were, with the Uzbek with whom they established close ties, the second most populous ethnic group in present day Kunduz, Takhar and Baghlan provinces. Smaller groups settled in scattered communities as far west as Maimana, Faryab Province.

The Arab are pastoralists who raise sheep and grow cotton and wheat. Some among the eastern groups make summer migrations of up to 300 kilometers to reach the lush high pastures in Badakhshan. Government development schemes, especially those which brought large numbers of Pushtun to the area in the 1940s, relegated the Arab to a small proportion of the population and the Arab ceased to hold a monopoly on long distance migration. Bilingual in Dari and Uzbeki, but speaking no Arabic, they continue to identify themselves as Arab although they have had no contact with the Arabs of the Middle East since the late fourteenth century.

and another thing....since i speak english, i guess i'm more not puerto rican or italian....i must be english

i guess i do need to get out more

[King Tech Quadafi]

^ there are no arabs in afghanistan

afghanistan is a different place and different way of thinking

the taliban fucked alot of shit up, they came with some new ways

they were heavily influenced by saudi wahhabism, we afghans are Hanafi sunnis, its all complicated, but Bin Ladens bitch ass brought some ideology into our country....like introducing gang banging into soutch central, shit juss got out of control

[notorious^q8I]

Large groups of Sunni Arab living in the vicinity of Bokhara in Central Asia fled to northeastern Afghanistan following Russian conquests in the nineteenth century. By the 1880s they were, with the Uzbek with whom they established close ties, the second most populous ethnic group in present day Kunduz, Takhar and Baghlan provinces. Smaller groups settled in scattered communities as far west as Maimana, Faryab Province.

The Arab are pastoralists who raise sheep and grow cotton and wheat. Some among the eastern groups make summer migrations of up to 300 kilometers to reach the lush high pastures in Badakhshan. Government development schemes, especially those which brought large numbers of Pushtun to the area in the 1940s, relegated the Arab to a small proportion of the population and the Arab ceased to hold a monopoly on long distance migration. Bilingual in Dari and Uzbeki, but speaking no Arabic, they continue to identify themselves as Arab although they have had no contact with the Arabs of the Middle East since the late fourteenth century.

and another thing....since i speak english, i guess i'm more not puerto rican or italian....i must be english

i guess i do need to get out more

i dunno where u got this from but i can assure u that the first arabs to migrate to afghanistan were holy warriors against the soviet invasion
thats when the american government supplied binladen and all the other arab fighter with american weapons.. its ironic that 10 years later they r america's numba 1 enemies
but arabs never lived in afghanistan before the soviet war
actually they dont migrate they just go fight and most of em came back ...well except those r still fighting
but there rnt any arabs who actually live in afghanistan as citizens

[OneHittaSpitta]

Women in Islam wear Veils because if they don't, they're killed.  Mainly that's the reason they wear them.

Women in America sometimes wear long dresses, and dress modestly, because they want to.  If they want to wear less, that's their choice and they won't be punished or killed for it, because they're free to do what ever they want, as long as they dont' hurt anybody or deny someone else's rights. 

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

or their parents make them go to Christian and Catholic schools as kids, where theyre forcefed a bunch of bullshit. Then, because of the pressure placed on them by our society, when they become teenagers they develop a severe eating dissorder and possibly some sort of drug addiction which a minimum wage job just wont be able to afford so they turn and sell their pussy for crack on the streets....

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

it's still their choice.

in some places, arabic women can't even do a 1/3 of those things without being punished

what im saying is, before you judge look at yourself. Im American, but why is it i dont have this arrogant American attitude that is the the reason why half of the world hates us. I dont see us as BETTER then all these places. We do our share of FUCKED up shit, most of which the American people dont even know about. A lot of which, nobody knows about because its kept under wraps so well and lied about. It seems like all we want, is to be lied to....Americans dont want the truth about ourselves. We want to be lied to, we want to be told we're the best. We want to be told that when we're not liked...its the other persons fault, "theyre just jealous". LOL. Think how childish that mentality is? Its always the other guy. Fuck that, its US. And we can point fingers, over and over...and we can say we want to help all these other countries with their problems...but thats ALL bullshit until we admit what WE do wrong, and how WE wrong people. Other countries, aswell as our own citizens. But Americans are just too self-centered to do that.