What made Dick Durbin apoligise?

[Don Rizzle]

US senator sorry for Nazi remarks 
 
More than 500 prisoners are being held at Guantanamo Bay
A US senator has apologised for comparing US interrogation practices at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in Cuba to those under Hitler and Stalin.
Dick Durbin has been criticised by Republicans and some fellow Democrats for last week's comments.

They came after he quoted from an FBI report alleging inmates were chained to the floor without food or water.

He has now offered the Senate his "heartfelt apologies", saying he never meant to offend US troops.

"They're the best. I never, ever intended any disrespect for them," the Illinois senator said.

He also apologised to survivors of the Nazi Holocuast.

"I'm sorry if anything that I said caused any offence or pain to those who have such bitter memories of the Holocaust, the greatest moral tragedy of our time," he said.

Recent critics of the high-security detention centre at Guantanamo include former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, who has called for its closure.

Amnesty International has branded the camp "the gulag of our times".

But US Vice-President Dick Cheney says there are no plans to close the prison, and describes the detainees as "bad people" and "hardcore".

Many of the 500 men held at the camp have been there for three years without trial.
 
source bbcnews

whats the big fucking deal he spoke his mind about gauntamino, but theres no reason to apoligise! what happenned to freedom of speach in america?

[Real American]

Because the idea of comparing Guantanomo to what happened in Russia and Nazy Germany is stupid, retarded, assanine, and outrageous. There were human rights atrocities being coomited in those countries and to say that is what the US military is doing is offensive.

[Thirteen]

jumping jacks, lack of sleep and maybe pissing on korans (\=) millions of tortured, gassed, beat and raped people

maybe that's one reason

[Don Rizzle]

Because the idea of comparing Guantanomo to what happened in Russia and Nazy Germany is stupid, retarded, assanine, and outrageous. There were human rights atrocities being coomited in those countries and to say that is what the US military is doing is offensive.

they are similar your patriotism just can't see it

[Thirteen]

Because the idea of comparing Guantanomo to what happened in Russia and Nazy Germany is stupid, retarded, assanine, and outrageous. There were human rights atrocities being coomited in those countries and to say that is what the US military is doing is offensive.

they are similar your patriotism just can't see it

you're an idiot, you being a jack ass just can't see it

[Don Seer]

i'm with don rizzle.. wtf did they show this guy to make him change his mind?

[Thirteen]

they didn't have to show him anything... it's a totally shitty comparison

it's like saying Ja Rule's rap music has had the same impact as all of westcoast rap put together

now if i said that and i didn't retract my statement... i would be seen as the biggest idiot on the board

[Don Seer]

ahh yes silly me.. there is a difference.. the nazi's killed the jews. whereas the americans are torturing the muslims!

[Thirteen]

and if you qualify stress positions and lack of sleep torture of 500 people (pretty much the same things people go through in boot camp)

to

science experiments that almost always led to death, gassing, starvation and violent beatings to millions

once again, only an idiot would make that kind of comparison

[Don Rizzle]

and if you qualify stress positions and lack of sleep torture of 500 people (pretty much the same things people go through in boot camp)

to

science experiments that almost always led to death, gassing, starvation and violent beatings to millions

once again, only an idiot would make that kind of comparison

yes the numbers are a bit different and maybe the americans arn't trying to exterminate them or experiment on them, they are still torturing muslims and the institution is just a watered down version of the nazi concerntration camps. maybe you think guantamino bay should stay, but that doesn't mean you can't acknowledge the similarities.

[Thirteen]

and if you qualify stress positions and lack of sleep torture of 500 people (pretty much the same things people go through in boot camp)

to

science experiments that almost always led to death, gassing, starvation and violent beatings to millions

once again, only an idiot would make that kind of comparison

yes the numbers are a bit different and maybe the americans arn't trying to exterminate them or experiment on them, they are still torturing muslims and the institution is just a watered down version of the nazi concerntration camps. maybe you think guantamino bay should stay, but that doesn't mean you can't acknowledge the similarities.

there's abrely any similarities, it's like saying Ja Rule = all of west coast rap

well they are all rappers so i guess it's similar

[Ant]

and if you qualify stress positions and lack of sleep torture of 500 people (pretty much the same things people go through in boot camp)

to

science experiments that almost always led to death, gassing, starvation and violent beatings to millions

once again, only an idiot would make that kind of comparison

Comparing US detainment camps to boot camp is every bit as ridiculous as comparing U.S. troops to Nazis.  There aren't homicides at bootcamp.  People aren't chained in stress positions for days on end at Bootcamp.  People aren't left chained to the floor lying in their own shit and piss in bootcamp.  And no one goes home from bootcamp with pictures looking anything like the one's that leaked from Abu Graib. 

[Thirteen]

and if you qualify stress positions and lack of sleep torture of 500 people (pretty much the same things people go through in boot camp)

to

science experiments that almost always led to death, gassing, starvation and violent beatings to millions

once again, only an idiot would make that kind of comparison

Comparing US detainment camps to boot camp is every bit as ridiculous as comparing U.S. troops to Nazis.  There aren't homicides at bootcamp.  People aren't chained in stress positions for days on end at Bootcamp.  People aren't left chained to the floor lying in their own shit and piss in bootcamp.  And no one goes home from bootcamp with pictures looking anything like the one's that leaked from Abu Graib. 

ok how about SEAL boot camp, where there have been casualties, where they have been beaten to death back in the day...problem solved, want to nitpick some more?

[Thirteen]

Amnesty International recently compared the U.S. Guantanamo prison to the Soviet Gulags under Stalin. Here are the facts that they used to draw their conclusion:

Individuals Detained:
Gulag -- 20 million.
Guantanamo -- 750 total.

Number of Camps:
Gulag -- 476 separate camp complexes comprising thousands of individual camps.
Guantanamo -- five small camps on the U.S. military base in Cuba.

Reasons for Imprisonment:
Gulag -- hiding grain; owning too many cows; need for slave labor; being Jewish; being Finnish; being religious; being middle class; having had contact with foreigners; refusing to sleep with the head of Soviet counterintelligence; telling a joke about Stalin.
Guantanamo -- fighting for the Taliban in Afghanistan; being suspected of links to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

Red Cross Visits:
Gulag -- none on record.
Guantanamo -- regular visits since January 2002.

Deaths as a Result of Poor Treatment:
Gulag -- multiple millions.
Guantanamo -- no reports of prisoner deaths.

Daily Diet:
Gulag -- meager portions of swill.
Guantanamo -- two hot religiously correct meals per day with constant supply of snacks.

Work Requirements:
Gulag -- forced labor.
Guantanamo -- none.

Medical Treatment:
Gulag -- none.
Guantanamo -- better than the 20 million report "uninsured" American citizens.

Torture Methods:
Gulag -- starvation, beatings, exposure to elements, slave labor.
Guantanamo -- humiliation, standing on the koran

[Thirteen]

Is America the only country in the world that could run a prison camp where prisoners gain weight? Between April 2002 and March 2003, the Joint Task Force returned to Afghanistan 19 of the approximately 664 men (from 42 countries) who have been held in the detention camps at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay. Upon leaving, it has been reported, each man received two parting gifts: a brand new copy of the Koran as well as a new pair of jeans. Not the act of generosity that it might first appear, the jeans, at least, turned out to be a necessity. During their stay (14-months on average), the detainees (nearly all of them) had gained an average of 13 pounds.