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Iraq-tested soldiers in New Orleans with shoot to kill orders
« on: September 04, 2005, 02:46:19 PM »
AFP | September 2 2005

A squad of 300 National Guard troops landed in anarchic New Orleans fresh from Iraq on Thursday, with authorization to shoot and kill "hoodlums", Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco said.

"Three hundred of the Arkansas National Guard have landed in the city of New Orleans," said Blanco.

"These troops are fresh back from Iraq, well trained, experienced, battle tested and under my orders to restore order in the streets," Blanco said.

"They have M-16s and they are locked and loaded.

"These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will," said Blanco.

Colonel Henry Whitehorn of the Louisiana State Police said that the law and order situation in the city was "bad."

He said however anarchic conditions around the Superdome stadium and central business district where up to 20,000 refugees have been sheltering had been "stabilising."

But he admitted that a number of police officers, who had lost everything in flooding after Hurricane Katrina which roared ashore last Monday, had handed in their badges, unwilling to take the fight to looters.




I never thought I'd say it but big up to the police, the ones who didnt follow orders

 

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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2005, 02:48:20 PM »
Yeah... great way to help these people... kill them....
 

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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2005, 03:31:15 PM »
That shit is rediculous. This is like death penalty for robbery (if you can even call it robbery) without trial.
 

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2005, 03:34:32 PM »
Wow, this is like a good example of what not to do in a disaster situation.
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2005, 03:47:36 PM »
That shit is rediculous. This is like death penalty for robbery (if you can even call it robbery) without trial.

It's ok... they're black.
 

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2005, 03:50:05 PM »
man wtf if they see white people come out the grocery store the reason they wont get shot cause those harmless people were just 'searching' and 'finding' food  ::)

but oh my the niggers on the other hand are 'hunting' and 'looting' so shoot them

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2005, 03:55:26 PM »
I'm not the one to pull the race card, but seriously, it seems more and more like they arent putting 100% in it because they got something against those people.
 

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2005, 01:09:34 AM »
what the fuck ? how did a natural disaster turn into a war-zone ? i think bush is on the same drugs hussein was on  :-\
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2005, 03:26:57 AM »
what the fuck ? how did a natural disaster turn into a war-zone ? i think bush is on the same drugs hussein was on  :-\

haven't you ever heard of Martial Law?

People are running around with guns shooting and robbing each other, stores whatever...
you can't blame them i suppose..

and hell yeah i'mma say it... 'only in america' ....

arm your own populace and this is what you get..



 

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Re: Iraq-tested soldiers in New Orleans with shoot to kill orders
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2005, 03:41:14 AM »
why is it these people have guns ? why did they start running wild ?
 

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2005, 03:48:26 AM »
i'll take some good guesses..

1) why they have guns?

because guns are easy to come by.. either they had them or they stole them from looted stores and homes. hell some may even be some of these ex-policemen who handed their badges in..

hell.. in the same situation if i had to feed my family, provide etc i'd be after a gun.. even if just for self protection


2) why did they start running wild ?

i already touched on this.. but people have no food, no where to buy food or anything.. you will get wild when your kids and wife, brothers, sisters or whatever are crying and getting sick from not eating.

i'd hazard a guess that large/solid families or groups of families are protecting themselves and taking from those who can't defend themselves.. its survival of the fittest.. and in a selfish capitalist society like america no one gives a fuck about anyone but themselves



 

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2005, 03:58:32 AM »
i'll take some good guesses..

1) why they have guns?

because guns are easy to come by.. either they had them or they stole them from looted stores and homes. hell some may even be some of these ex-policemen who handed their badges in..

hell.. in the same situation if i had to feed my family, provide etc i'd be after a gun.. even if just for self protection


2) why did they start running wild ?

i already touched on this.. but people have no food, no where to buy food or anything.. you will get wild when your kids and wife, brothers, sisters or whatever are crying and getting sick from not eating.

i'd hazard a guess that large/solid families or groups of families are protecting themselves and taking from those who can't defend themselves.. its survival of the fittest.. and in a selfish capitalist society like america no one gives a fuck about anyone but themselves





That pretty much covers all scenarios. I know if I were down there with my family, I would of grabbed a gun too. At this point the people can't really depend on law enforecement so they're protecting their own asses.

None of this would of happened if the majority of the population weren't people of low economical status. Fuck all the excuses and bullshit the government and media outlets wanna spring on ya. These people don't have any pull in political contributions and no one will really benefit from rescuing these people other than the people themselves.

That's why while the fucking disaster was happening, Bush was meeting with Alan Greenspan about the affect this event will have on the nation financially. The money factor comes before the lives of the people. Like Seer said, the US is a greedy selfish capitalist nation.
 

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2005, 04:13:18 AM »
must be nuts there.. on some real "escape from new york" type shit..  they have people in our papers here today who "escaped" the horror of the lawless superdome etc etc
 

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2005, 04:27:07 AM »
yea it certainly is a messed up sitaution out there... heard that they esitmated it could take upto a month to fully drain the city.

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2005, 04:28:40 AM »
^ and that even after that due to sanitation etc its not going to be liveable for a long ass time
 

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2005, 11:27:47 AM »
can we please not have European people commenting on this situation if u dont have anything relevant to say. Smart ass comments abut not arming the populace are just pointless and u know it. I'd tell u to shut the fuck up, but I know british people are sensitive and you would probably ban me.
 

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2005, 11:34:17 AM »
can we please not have European people commenting on this situation if u dont have anything relevant to say. Smart ass comments abut not arming the populace are just pointless and u know it. I'd tell u to shut the fuck up, but I know british people are sensitive and you would probably ban me.

its a very valid point.. all you've done is shown you cant answer it and are trying to deflect from the fact that you can't answer it with your wack ass attempts at cheap shots.. i ain't over sensitive like you just showed you are. fuckin hypocrite!

you cant argue with the fact that if you don't give people guns they won't shoot each other!

 

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Re: Iraq-tested soldiers in New Orleans with shoot to kill orders
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2005, 11:41:49 AM »
man, how did they manage to come up with such a "genius" idea? sniping down "marauders" in a disaster stricken erea is a complete mixup of priorities...They should focus on saving people's lives instead of shooting people down, it is hands down absurdity....their reasoning is beyond me....People are doing all they can to survive the cataclysm while the authorities are stumbling and failing to help adequately-so they get shot....
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2005, 11:45:00 AM »
OK but what the fuck were u trying to accomplish with that comment? Not everyone is running around shooting eachother, there have been a few incidents of psycho people sharpshooting at officals but for the most part people have been "robbing" stores so they can feed their family. If u watch the news u see people pulling out supplies from stores not TV's and shit, they have  alegitimate reason to be stealing since the government is taking their sweet time. As for arming the people, is the situation in New Orlens a refelction of how gret the UK's no gun tolerance is? Why don't u make a different thread about gun control instead of using it as a quick cheap shot against our people. U will never understand the mentality of A black American in the south, after hundreds of years of oppression, the last thing they need is rows of soldiers with guns in their face, especially when every other incident in America involving troops, guns, and black people has ended in chaos. They have every right to be scared. You're fuckin i right I catch feelings about some shit like this if u dont feel for em youre a prick. U cant adress every situation like a beauracrat. The people of New Orleans have not done anything wrong in my eyes except the few sharpshooters and rapists. 
 

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Re: Iraq-tested soldiers in New Orleans with shoot to kill orders
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2005, 11:46:04 AM »
man, how did they manage to come up with such a "genius" idea? sniping down "marauders" in a disaster stricken erea is a complete mixup of priorities...They should focus on saving people's lives instead of shooting people down, it is hands down absurdity....their reasoning is beyond me....People are doing all they can to survive the cataclysm while the authorities are stumbling and failing to help adequately-so they get shot....

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2005, 11:48:03 AM »
As for the issue of looting, most goods in stores these days are insured plus with the flood damage, it's not like any liability falls on the store owners if their goods are missing. If the government can't properly step in and help people right away, then the next best thing u can do is look for relief n the destroyed stores and try and salvage some food for your family. There is no justification for some pig to stick a shotgun in your face and tell you to drop the food and instead just wait for federal relief. Naw that shit doesn't fly.
 

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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2005, 11:48:36 AM »
^ u know.. i wrote the same thing about insurance in reply to geezy further down n this reply but took it out.. i figure its the security angle..


in response to your reply to me above..

who brought race into this? who said it wasnt white people with guns? no one.

aint u missed where we said we'd do the same damn thing above? europeans and americans alike

stop over reacting, get off your high horse and calm your ass down.


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i guess maybe they need to secure things before they can work on clearly roads, water etc etc..

does sound very odd though.. but its basically a martial law situation.. and if they got guns.. u gotta use guns..
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2005, 11:53:39 AM »
Umm, I dont want it to be a race issue, it just so happens that like 98% of everyone stuck there is black. and i just noticed the other thing u wrote yeah my bad.
 

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2005, 11:55:18 AM »

i guess if a black person does get shot.. then shit could hit the fan.. talk about making a bad situation worse..
 

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2005, 12:29:52 PM »
man, how did they manage to come up with such a "genius" idea? sniping down "marauders" in a disaster stricken erea is a complete mixup of priorities...They should focus on saving people's lives instead of shooting people down, it is hands down absurdity....their reasoning is beyond me....People are doing all they can to survive the cataclysm while the authorities are stumbling and failing to help adequately-so they get shot....

great humanitarian advice and concern from the IDF veteran

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