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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #125 on: October 28, 2005, 10:06:31 AM »
7even the littledinger pretty much summed it up

The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is remarkeably simple. So simple that Israelis and their sympathesizers have to ADD initiall factors to the debate to cloud the discussion and blur the lines between fact and fiction.

Hence, "what are the Israelis doin on Arab land?" becomes "why isnt the palestinian authority reigning in military groups?"
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2005, 12:03:31 PM »
7even the littledinger pretty much summed it up

The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is remarkeably simple. So simple that Israelis and their sympathesizers have to ADD initiall factors to the debate to cloud the discussion and blur the lines between fact and fiction.

Hence, "what are the Israelis doin on Arab land?" becomes "why isnt the palestinian authority reigning in military groups?"

See that's what happens when I show yall where yall are wrong, the usual propaganda victims suddenly decide to proclaim the other side as the one clouding the discussion, yall really do crack me up....lol :)....Suddenly the fact of the Palestinian people being used as a decoy, camouflaging territorial ambitions from within the totalitarian Arab world from the dawn of their existence as a nation, up to our times, when they are used by terroristic power structures within their own autonomy as a tool for gaining positions of power, is being omitted. I'm sorry you guys choose to ignore that the root of the problem is their pseudo-leadership and as soon as I point it out for you- you choose to call it "clouding the discussion". It doesn't take a genuis to figure out the truth but it does require some research since this is a very complex conflict being that it is essentially an inner conflict within the Palestinian population that simply casts on Israel.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2005, 12:29:57 PM »
Ok, let's say there's a kid and he gets his ass beat by some stranger on the street. Then he gets home and his dad beats him. So does that mean that since his dad beat him, he was never a victim to the stranger? Does that mean it never happened? LOLLL how can you say Palestinians aren't victims to Zionism.... your English seems good enough, so I don't expect you to not understand what I mean when I say that yes, the Palestinians have been fucked over by their own leadership at times, but does that mean they weren't victims to Zionism? You sound like one of those retards who say the Holocaust never happened. Your brain is being handled on super cycle.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2005, 02:40:51 PM »
Just for the record, I'm not American. In fact, some republicans even think I'm Anti-American, which I'm not really. I just see what I see and some things I see I don't like, no matter who's involved. Unlike most people, I don't try to argue for someone who's wrong because he somehow appeals to me (because of race, nation, religion, whatever) , but I try to see who's wrong and then argue against him.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2005, 03:11:59 PM »
Ok, let's say there's a kid and he gets his ass beat by some stranger on the street. Then he gets home and his dad beats him. So does that mean that since his dad beat him, he was never a victim to the stranger? Does that mean it never happened? LOLLL how can you say Palestinians aren't victims to Zionism.... your English seems good enough, so I don't expect you to not understand what I mean when I say that yes, the Palestinians have been fucked over by their own leadership at times, but does that mean they weren't victims to Zionism? You sound like one of those retards who say the Holocaust never happened. Your brain is being handled on super cycle.

First of all I would like to thank you for quoting me in your signature, what an honor  8) And now since I understand you are a fan of analogies I'll supply one myself:

Let's say there is this kid and he gets abused by his dominating father (after his mother past away, giving birth to him, so he's all the father has), abused so badly he blocks it out completely and as he growes up he can't fully sustain his repression(in the psychological sence) so he becomes angry with everything and as the boy reaches puberty he meets people who figure out his problems and offer him help working out his issues but since the father is now old and can't support himself and can't afford his son leaving him or finding out the truth about his childhood so he uses the rooted control and deterrence he's established over his son through conditioning at an early age to setting him against his new friends claiming that they are hostile and are trying to break up their family while also trying to take away their house, at the same time, he hires assassins to kill his son's new friends, they fail, and when the son's new friends figure out who sent the assassins and that they're dealing with an old psychopath they call the police on him. The son seeing his "family" being taken apart just as his father warned him is becoming assured of the fact his new friends are ploting against him and his family so he decides to fight them.  


p.s I'm glad you've mentioned The Holocaust Deniers since the current leader of the Palestinian Autonomy is one.AGAIN, I've never denied innocents may have gotten hurt on the Palestinian side all I said was that the ones who caused it were those terrorist power structures whose number one goal is to hurt Israeli civilians, something they openly proclaim, along with the Palestinian leadership, otherwise the leaders would've eradicated terrorism within their authority themselves without coercing Israel to do so, they know Israel can't focus its foiling operations to an extent innocents won't get hurt. You keep ignoring everything that has been discussed up untill now, you're back to square one.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2005, 03:47:37 PM »
Just for the record, I'm not American. In fact, some republicans even think I'm Anti-American, which I'm not really. I just see what I see and some things I see I don't like, no matter who's involved. Unlike most people, I don't try to argue for someone who's wrong because he somehow appeals to me (because of race, nation, religion, whatever) , but I try to see who's wrong and then argue against him.

Well.... you'll have something more to throw in their faces from now on while arguing, hey as long as you're learning something new man. But it doesn't really matter since you're still supposed to oppose the USA much more than you oppose Israel according to the views you claim to possess.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2005, 03:54:05 PM »

The Palestinian people ARE IN NO WAY VICTIMS OF ZIONISM-

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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2005, 05:10:25 PM »
thanks buddy...i now wish death on all israelis except you....and may be your family



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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2005, 05:17:27 PM »
Ok, let's say there's a kid and he gets his ass beat by some stranger on the street. Then he gets home and his dad beats him. So does that mean that since his dad beat him, he was never a victim to the stranger? Does that mean it never happened? LOLLL how can you say Palestinians aren't victims to Zionism.... your English seems good enough, so I don't expect you to not understand what I mean when I say that yes, the Palestinians have been fucked over by their own leadership at times, but does that mean they weren't victims to Zionism? You sound like one of those retards who say the Holocaust never happened. Your brain is being handled on super cycle.

First of all I would like to thank you for quoting me in your signature, what an honor  8) And now since I understand you are a fan of analogies I'll supply one myself:

Let's say there is this kid and he gets abused by his dominating father (after his mother past away, giving birth to him, so he's all the father has), abused so badly he blocks it out completely and as he growes up he can't fully sustain his repression(in the psychological sence) so he becomes angry with everything and as the boy reaches puberty he meets people who figure out his problems and offer him help working out his issues but since the father is now old and can't support himself and can't afford his son leaving him or finding out the truth about his childhood so he uses the rooted control and deterrence he's established over his son through conditioning at an early age to setting him against his new friends claiming that they are hostile and are trying to break up their family while also trying to take away their house, at the same time, he hires assassins to kill his son's new friends, they fail, and when the son's new friends figure out who sent the assassins and that they're dealing with an old psychopath they call the police on him. The son seeing his "family" being taken apart just as his father warned him is becoming assured of the fact his new friends are ploting against him and his family so he decides to fight them.  


p.s I'm glad you've mentioned The Holocaust Deniers since the current leader of the Palestinian Autonomy is one.AGAIN, I've never denied innocents may have gotten hurt on the Palestinian side all I said was that the ones who caused it were those terrorist power structures whose number one goal is to hurt Israeli civilians, something they openly proclaim, along with the Palestinian leadership, otherwise the leaders would've eradicated terrorism within their authority themselves without coercing Israel to do so, they know Israel can't focus its foiling operations to an extent innocents won't get hurt. You keep ignoring everything that has been discussed up untill now, you're back to square one.

So Palestinians have been victims to Zionism/Israel... and the Palestinian leadership didn't make things any better...

To me the IDF is a terrorist power structure... the state of Israel was founded on terrorism...

Back to Square 1 it is... except this is where it stays... no second chances for you, you've been fucked up
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #134 on: October 29, 2005, 03:23:56 AM »
Ok, let's say there's a kid and he gets his ass beat by some stranger on the street. Then he gets home and his dad beats him. So does that mean that since his dad beat him, he was never a victim to the stranger? Does that mean it never happened? LOLLL how can you say Palestinians aren't victims to Zionism.... your English seems good enough, so I don't expect you to not understand what I mean when I say that yes, the Palestinians have been fucked over by their own leadership at times, but does that mean they weren't victims to Zionism? You sound like one of those retards who say the Holocaust never happened. Your brain is being handled on super cycle.

First of all I would like to thank you for quoting me in your signature, what an honor  8) And now since I understand you are a fan of analogies I'll supply one myself:

Let's say there is this kid and he gets abused by his dominating father (after his mother past away, giving birth to him, so he's all the father has), abused so badly he blocks it out completely and as he growes up he can't fully sustain his repression(in the psychological sence) so he becomes angry with everything and as the boy reaches puberty he meets people who figure out his problems and offer him help working out his issues but since the father is now old and can't support himself and can't afford his son leaving him or finding out the truth about his childhood so he uses the rooted control and deterrence he's established over his son through conditioning at an early age to setting him against his new friends claiming that they are hostile and are trying to break up their family while also trying to take away their house, at the same time, he hires assassins to kill his son's new friends, they fail, and when the son's new friends figure out who sent the assassins and that they're dealing with an old psychopath they call the police on him. The son seeing his "family" being taken apart just as his father warned him is becoming assured of the fact his new friends are ploting against him and his family so he decides to fight them.  


p.s I'm glad you've mentioned The Holocaust Deniers since the current leader of the Palestinian Autonomy is one.AGAIN, I've never denied innocents may have gotten hurt on the Palestinian side all I said was that the ones who caused it were those terrorist power structures whose number one goal is to hurt Israeli civilians, something they openly proclaim, along with the Palestinian leadership, otherwise the leaders would've eradicated terrorism within their authority themselves without coercing Israel to do so, they know Israel can't focus its foiling operations to an extent innocents won't get hurt. You keep ignoring everything that has been discussed up untill now, you're back to square one.

So Palestinians have been victims to Zionism/Israel... and the Palestinian leadership didn't make things any better...

To me the IDF is a terrorist power structure... the state of Israel was founded on terrorism...

Back to Square 1 it is... except this is where it stays... no second chances for you, you've been fucked up


You're almost there but you are still blending the concepts of attack and defence- IDF is a DEFENCE ARMY. Palestinians have been victims to their own leadership and to a number of terroristic power structures their leadership had been supporting and supports nowadays,  since their attacks on Israel were first of all to kill Israeli civilians and second of all they were to trigger an Israeli retaliation on the terrorists, that would result in a number of innocent deaths, since Israel is physicaly unable to focus its foiling operations to an extent innocents wouldn't get hurt since most of these terrorists live among the peaceful population in the autonomy and the Palestinian leadership is well aware of this. Even though they seemed to condemn terrorism in front of the cameras, they DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO STOP TERRORISM WITHIN THEIR AUTHORITY AND TO PREVENT ISRAEL FROM CONDUCTING FOILING OPERATIONS TO UPROOT TERRORISTIC FACTORS. When you CHOOSE A DEMEANOR you CHOOSE THE CONSEQUENCES, but when you're a part of the leadership YOU CHOOSE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ENTIRE NATION (and it is much less fair in my opinion when the leadership wasn't elected by the people of the nation) --->BUUUURN!!....No matter what I say you'll come up with more bullshit fogginess, evading facts and ignoring order of events...
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #135 on: October 29, 2005, 03:40:43 AM »
thanks buddy...i now wish death on all israelis except you....and may be your family



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LOL Don't be so fast with proclamations, after all, I've served in the IDF.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #136 on: October 29, 2005, 07:48:05 AM »
And in addition to my last few statements:

UNSCOP (United Nations Special Committee on Palestine)-
"Appointed in April 1947 to investigate the situation in Palestine and propose solutions. The majority of the committee recommended to partition Palestine, giving the Negev and a small part of the western part of the country to the Jews and giving what is now the West Bank and most of the northern part of the country to the Arabs. The Arab Higher Committee REJECTED the partition plan, the Jewish Agency accepted it."

And I ask you- WHY?

Now as for further events:

Palestinian Refugees-

"About 600,000 Palestinian (other estimates range form 500,000 to 800,0000) fled Israel between 1947 and 1949, fundamentally because of the Arab states' rejection of the United Nation partition plan and invasion of Israel. The refugees fled out of fear of war and in response to Arab leaders' calls for Arabs to evacuate the areas allocated to the Jews until Israel had been eliminated. In a handful of cases, Palestinians were expelled. A majority of the refugees and their descendants now live in the Gaza Strip, the Golan Heights and the West Bank. About 360,000 Palestinians fled eastern Jerusalem, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights during and after Israel's defensive 1967 War. Palestinian who fled in 1967 are technically considered displaced persons and do not have official refugee status. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency estimated that 175,000 of these 360,000 Palestinians were refugees from the 1948 War. The May 4, 1994, Gaza-Jericho Accord calls for Israel, the Palestinians, Jordan, and Egypt to form a Continuing Committee to discuss the 1967 displaced persons. The problem of the 1947-1949 refugees, on the other hand, is to be left for the “final status” negotiations under the terms of the Israeli-PLO Declaration of Principles of September 13, 1993."

DESPITE THE Absentee Property Law-

"The law that states that land that was abandoned by Arabs in Palestine before the creation of the State of Israel, now belongs to the State of Israel."


Additional info for pondering:

Jewish Refugees from Arab Lands-

"Prior to the establishment of Israel, more than 850,000 Jews lived in Arab countries. After Israel achieved independence, many of these Jews were persecuted by their governments and compelled to leave, despite having lived in some of their communities for more than 2,500 years. Between 1948 and 1972, 820,000 Jews left Arab countries, 586,000 were resettled in Israel at great expense, and without any offer of compensation from the Arab governments who confiscated their possessions. "


ALL PURE FACTS.

DO THE MATH AND VIEW THE CAUSES.

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Palestinians-

"Although anyone with roots in the land that is now Israel, the West Bank and Gaza is technically a Palestinian, the term is now more commonly used to refer to Arabs with such roots. Palestinian nationalism, as distinguished from Arab nationalism, did not emerge until after World War I. Most of the world's Palestinian population is concentrated in Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jordan, although many Palestinians live in Lebanon, Syria and other Arab countries. "

Intrafada-

"Cycle of violence coinciding with the intifada in which nearly 1,000 Palestinians were killed by other Palestinians on suspicion of “collaborating” with Israel."



Israeli Arabs-

"Arabs who are citizens of Israel, including Palestinian Arabs who chose to stay in their homes rather than flee in 1947-1949, and other Arabs who were allowed to become naturalized citizens. Approximately 20 percent of the Israeli population are Arabs. Israeli Arabs enjoy equal rights with Israeli Jews in Israel. The one exception is that Israeli Arabs are not required to serve in the military, though some, including all Druze, do choose to serve. "
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #137 on: October 29, 2005, 09:43:19 AM »
Damn I must be getting older because I almost forgot:

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194-

"Non-binding resolution adopted on December 11, 1948, which called upon the Arab states and Israel to resolve all outstanding issues through negotiations. It also said that refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so, that compensation should be paid for property, and that the Conciliation Commission should facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of refugees. The Arab states unanimously rejected the resolution, but subsequently argued it recognized a “right of return” for Palestinian refugees. Israel disputes this interpretation and has consistently said the refugee issue, including Jews who fled Arab countries, should be negotiated as part of an overall peace agreement. "


Hmmm...I wonder why 'The Arab States' eventually decided to reconsider, don't you?? 8)

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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #138 on: October 31, 2005, 12:17:34 PM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?



Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.
 

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« Reply #139 on: October 31, 2005, 12:32:03 PM »
I honestly think that I Geezy has the most knowledge on the subject, due to the fact that it's part of his daily life and he's actually served for what he's defending...We're all just 3rd person perspective on this shit, I Geezy is actually part of it, so it's only common sense that his word is more credible.
 

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« Reply #140 on: October 31, 2005, 12:44:22 PM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?
Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.

LOL... what's wrong with demolishing homes is just that... the demolishing of homes... I didn't mention anything about harming those within the household. And no, that's not all you've been saying... you said that the military demolishes homes and the government has nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #141 on: October 31, 2005, 12:46:04 PM »
I honestly think that I Geezy has the most knowledge on the subject, due to the fact that it's part of his daily life and he's actually served for what he's defending...We're all just 3rd person perspective on this shit, I Geezy is actually part of it, so it's only common sense that his word is more credible.

Yes, and there would be no bias on his part what so ever.... you're right.

When someone states that Palestinians are in no way victims of Zionism, it just goes to show you how reliable that "perspective" is.

And the argument at hand wasn't about the current situation... so the knowledge of the actual history (not I Geezy's version) can be known by any outsider... there are people in the U.S. who still believe that Columbus was a great guy who just discovered a new continent on his way to India and turned the barbaric natives into civilized people.... but there are people in let's say Europe, who know that isn't true. I Geezy's OPINION doesn't really matter much. As I've stated earlier, I'm simply approaching this in an objective way with facts and he feels the need to include his opinion, views, feelings, etc... and I really don't give a shit about what he "thinks".
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« Reply #142 on: October 31, 2005, 01:27:37 PM »
I honestly think that I Geezy has the most knowledge on the subject, due to the fact that it's part of his daily life and he's actually served for what he's defending...We're all just 3rd person perspective on this shit, I Geezy is actually part of it, so it's only common sense that his word is more credible.

Yes, and there would be no bias on his part what so ever.... you're right.

When someone states that Palestinians are in no way victims of Zionism, it just goes to show you how reliable that "perspective" is.

And the argument at hand wasn't about the current situation... so the knowledge of the actual history (not I Geezy's version) can be known by any outsider... there are people in the U.S. who still believe that Columbus was a great guy who just discovered a new continent on his way to India and turned the barbaric natives into civilized people.... but there are people in let's say Europe, who know that isn't true. I Geezy's OPINION doesn't really matter much. As I've stated earlier, I'm simply approaching this in an objective way with facts and he feels the need to include his opinion, views, feelings, etc... and I really don't give a shit about what he "thinks".

I suppose you missed my last two posts where you could see my "opinions" were simply conclusions of facts you and many more self-proclaimed experts on this conflict chose to disregard.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #143 on: October 31, 2005, 04:08:50 PM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?
Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.

LOL... what's wrong with demolishing homes is just that... the demolishing of homes... I didn't mention anything about harming those within the household. And no, that's not all you've been saying... you said that the military demolishes homes and the government has nothing to do with it.


I was implying that the government has nothing to do with the WRONG homes being demolished.
 

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« Reply #144 on: October 31, 2005, 04:21:49 PM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?
Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.

LOL... what's wrong with demolishing homes is just that... the demolishing of homes... I didn't mention anything about harming those within the household. And no, that's not all you've been saying... you said that the military demolishes homes and the government has nothing to do with it.


I was implying that the government has nothing to do with the WRONG homes being demolished.
its not just homes, the worst thing is they demolish farms n shit i can see absolutley no military reason for this except for punishing the civllian population

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #145 on: October 31, 2005, 04:29:16 PM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?
Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.

LOL... what's wrong with demolishing homes is just that... the demolishing of homes... I didn't mention anything about harming those within the household. And no, that's not all you've been saying... you said that the military demolishes homes and the government has nothing to do with it.


I was implying that the government has nothing to do with the WRONG homes being demolished.
its not just homes, the worst thing is they demolish farms n shit i can see absolutley no military reason for this except for punishing the civllian population


Good, you still can't prove the reason...
 

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« Reply #146 on: October 31, 2005, 10:23:29 PM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?
Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.

LOL... what's wrong with demolishing homes is just that... the demolishing of homes... I didn't mention anything about harming those within the household. And no, that's not all you've been saying... you said that the military demolishes homes and the government has nothing to do with it.


I was implying that the government has nothing to do with the WRONG homes being demolished.

LOL... the government hasn't even denied that, so why are you denying it for them?...

So the soldiers say, "I'm kind of bored, let's go demolish those homes over there.."

Ok I know the IDF is fucked up and kills innocent people for no reason, but let's give them some credit... they're probably more organized than to just demolish random homes... the government controls the demolishing of homes... it's like our government here controls the building of freeways... just because you don't see the same guys wearing the suits and signing the papers down in the construction zone, doesn't mean it's the construction workers' choice to build that freeway... get it? I hope so...

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« Reply #147 on: October 31, 2005, 10:25:29 PM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?
Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.

LOL... what's wrong with demolishing homes is just that... the demolishing of homes... I didn't mention anything about harming those within the household. And no, that's not all you've been saying... you said that the military demolishes homes and the government has nothing to do with it.


I was implying that the government has nothing to do with the WRONG homes being demolished.
its not just homes, the worst thing is they demolish farms n shit i can see absolutley no military reason for this except for punishing the civllian population


Good, you still can't prove the reason...

1. I wasn't arguing the reason. I was just stating that it's happening. It's like talking about murder, and me stating that a murder occurred, and you being on the defense saying "well you can't prove if it was 1st or 2nd degree"...

2. The Israeli government has admitted to demolishing homes to make room for the wall. There's no way to justify something like that.
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Re: Arafat Death Probe Inconclusive
« Reply #148 on: November 01, 2005, 12:43:04 AM »
Yes, but I wasn't arguing that... you're making a statement that I didn't even argue...

In regards to what the government does on purpose, I mentioned the demolishing of homes.... not just "terrorist homes"... the government demolished homes that were in the way of the wall being built on Palestinian land. Comprende?
Point is, government doesn't demolish homes with intentions of harming those within the household...That's all I've been sayin.

LOL... what's wrong with demolishing homes is just that... the demolishing of homes... I didn't mention anything about harming those within the household. And no, that's not all you've been saying... you said that the military demolishes homes and the government has nothing to do with it.


I was implying that the government has nothing to do with the WRONG homes being demolished.

LOL... the government hasn't even denied that, so why are you denying it for them?...

So the soldiers say, "I'm kind of bored, let's go demolish those homes over there.."

Ok I know the IDF is fucked up and kills innocent people for no reason, but let's give them some credit... they're probably more organized than to just demolish random homes... the government controls the demolishing of homes... it's like our government here controls the building of freeways... just because you don't see the same guys wearing the suits and signing the papers down in the construction zone, doesn't mean it's the construction workers' choice to build that freeway... get it? I hope so...




You simply believe the Israeli government has evil intentions of killing innocent and unrightfuly destroying shit for no good purpose while I don't...
 

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« Reply #149 on: November 01, 2005, 02:21:45 AM »
Where did I mention that I knew their intent? LOL I actually stated the exact opposite by stating that I don't know their intent, only that it's happening. I'm stating facts, not opinions. You guys are the ones bringing your own opinions into this. However, there is no way to justify the demolishing of homes... especially not when it's "to make room for a wall"
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