Everybody knows....

[WestCoasta]

give it up Elevz, everybody sees by your comments that you don't know shit, fuck it if it's your opinion or not, you just prove yourself over and over to be an idiot

that bullshit about quik being an average rapper is not true. Today he is lyrically ten times better than 50 cent. As a rapper I would take quik over all of those east and south commercial artists.

yeah there's no way he's an average rapper, he's got clever rhymes and even when I try to find a fault he never comes with one

his lyrics always flow real smooth and he never gets lazy or half-assed and breaks the rhythm

[makaveli11]

^Exactly. As a lyricist he wont be confused with rakim, but he is most certainely not average. If you think his flow, delivery, and lyrics are average, it must have been a while since you clean your ears. You have to be on crack to think quik has never put an album as good as Get Rich Or Die Trying both musically and lyrically. I have alot more respect for quik as an mc than most in the game today.

[WestCoasta]

As a lyricist he wont be confused with rakim, but he is most certainely not average. If you think his flow, delivery, and lyrics are average, it must have been a while since you clean your ears. You have to be on crack to think quik has never put an album as good as Get Rich Or Die Trying both musically and lyrically. I have alot more respect for quik as an mc than most in the game today.

[Machiavelli]

As a lyricist he wont be confused with rakim, but he is most certainely not average. If you think his flow, delivery, and lyrics are average, it must have been a while since you clean your ears. You have to be on crack to think quik has never put an album as good as Get Rich Or Die Trying both musically and lyrically. I have alot more respect for quik as an mc than most in the game today.

[Realbiggsteele]

I guess you can say I'm not really a westcoast music fan - I don't automatically assume anything with a westcoast sound and some rapping, is decent, or classic. The west has done some amazing stuff over the past, and that I love the coast for, but when you look at the facts, the east is running miles up front. That's where they're still making good music.


yeah, shit they have stole from us! Im cool wit a few of dem cats, but they been stealin and biting for years, and if u cant see that, i dont know what to tell you.

[coola]

i think everyone here should listen to trauma again... album is fire...

[Okka]

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[Paul]

when dj can come back from that wack ass poor excuse for an album "trama" and put out a classic like balance and options maybe he would be the king of the west, lmao nah he wont

wtf are u, trauma was better than balance and options imo, takin nothin away from both albums, both classics, oh and its trauma not trama

As a lyricist he wont be confused with rakim, but he is most certainely not average. If you think his flow, delivery, and lyrics are average, it must have been a while since you clean your ears. You have to be on crack to think quik has never put an album as good as Get Rich Or Die Trying both musically and lyrically. I have alot more respect for quik as an mc than most in the game today.

[W-Side]

What makes Quik such a great rapper/artist is because he is the only one that can produce his own shit and rythm, and sound good over it, and make 7 albums of his own like that. Who in Hip-Hop is capable of that?

Quik made alot of albums which is cool but he's by far not the only one who can sound good over his self produced shit, Dre and RZA come to mind as 2 famous examples. Of course I know Dre ain't been writin his shit since he went solo but he proved he can on niggaz4life.

Quik deserves respect but don't exaggerate as far as emceeing goes, he's not a great rapper and not on Styles' level (cause someone said he better than d block ect.).


yall should chill though, it's not an obvious thing, both Quik and Dre are great so no need to take it to heart when somebody disagrees with you. You not making yourself look too mature saying shit like "shit's too advanced for you". It's called taste. Why do yall prefer Hiphop when other kinds of music are on a whole different level musically ? I guess it's too advanced ? why do some off yall listen to quik all the time but not gza ? are his lyrics too advanced for your 'simple minds' ?

[Elevz]

Quik deserves respect but don't exaggerate as far as emceeing goes, he's not a great rapper and not on Styles' level (cause someone said he better than d block ect.).

yall should chill though, it's not an obvious thing, both Quik and Dre are great so no need to take it to heart when somebody disagrees with you. You not making yourself look too mature saying shit like "shit's too advanced for you". It's called taste. Why do yall prefer Hiphop when other kinds of music are on a whole different level musically ? I guess it's too advanced ? why do some off yall listen to quik all the time but not gza ? are his lyrics too advanced for your 'simple minds' ?

That's what I'm talking about.

[Machiavelli]

What makes Quik such a great rapper/artist is because he is the only one that can produce his own shit and rythm, and sound good over it, and make 7 albums of his own like that. Who in Hip-Hop is capable of that?

yall should chill though, it's not an obvious thing, both Quik and Dre are great so no need to take it to heart when somebody disagrees with you. You not making yourself look too mature saying shit like "shit's too advanced for you". It's called taste. Why do yall prefer Hiphop when other kinds of music are on a whole different level musically ? I guess it's too advanced ? why do some off yall listen to quik all the time but not gza ? are his lyrics too advanced for your 'simple minds' ?

GZA is my 3rd favorite eastcoast rapper after Nas and Ghostface...I have all his albums and I am a huge Wu fan, and I relize that he is one of the best rappers ever and he would kill Quik by rapping only...I own around 35 WU related albums so dont tell me that I just listen to Quik and not others ...

[WestCoasta]

dont tell me that I just listen to Quik and not others ...

[makaveli11]

What makes Quik such a great rapper/artist is because he is the only one that can produce his own shit and rythm, and sound good over it, and make 7 albums of his own like that. Who in Hip-Hop is capable of that?

Quik made alot of albums which is cool but he's by far not the only one who can sound good over his self produced shit, Dre and RZA come to mind as 2 famous examples. Of course I know Dre ain't been writin his shit since he went solo but he proved he can on niggaz4life.

Quik deserves respect but don't exaggerate as far as emceeing goes, he's not a great rapper and not on Styles' level (cause someone said he better than d block ect.).


yall should chill though, it's not an obvious thing, both Quik and Dre are great so no need to take it to heart when somebody disagrees with you. You not making yourself look too mature saying shit like "shit's too advanced for you". It's called taste. Why do yall prefer Hiphop when other kinds of music are on a whole different level musically ? I guess it's too advanced ? why do some off yall listen to quik all the time but not gza ? are his lyrics too advanced for your 'simple minds' ?

I never exxagerated quik as far as emceeing goes. I said he wont be mistaken for rakim, but at the same time he is not an average rapper. So as far as you assuming I dont to listen gza because I like albums musically advanced doesnt make sense, why not do both which is what I do. Also why cant hiphop musically speaking be on the same level as other genres? Second of all, while it is true everyone has their own taste I came at Elevz because he said his albums were at most average while quik could never put out an album as good as 'Get Rich Or Die Trying'. I thought that was very funny and contradictory because my point was quik's album are musically and lyrically better than 'Get Rich Or Die Trying'. I believe this is fact and it cant be disputed despite tastes.

[W-Side]

What makes Quik such a great rapper/artist is because he is the only one that can produce his own shit and rythm, and sound good over it, and make 7 albums of his own like that. Who in Hip-Hop is capable of that?

Quik made alot of albums which is cool but he's by far not the only one who can sound good over his self produced shit, Dre and RZA come to mind as 2 famous examples. Of course I know Dre ain't been writin his shit since he went solo but he proved he can on niggaz4life.

Quik deserves respect but don't exaggerate as far as emceeing goes, he's not a great rapper and not on Styles' level (cause someone said he better than d block ect.).


yall should chill though, it's not an obvious thing, both Quik and Dre are great so no need to take it to heart when somebody disagrees with you. You not making yourself look too mature saying shit like "shit's too advanced for you". It's called taste. Why do yall prefer Hiphop when other kinds of music are on a whole different level musically ? I guess it's too advanced ? why do some off yall listen to quik all the time but not gza ? are his lyrics too advanced for your 'simple minds' ?

I never exxagerated quik as far as emceeing goes. I said he wont be mistaken for rakim, but at the same time he is not an average rapper. So as far as you assuming I dont to listen gza because I like albums musically advanced doesnt make sense, why not do both which is what I do. Also why cant hiphop musically speaking be on the same level as other genres? Second of all, while it is true everyone has their own taste I came at Elevz because he said his albums were at most average while quik could never put out an album as good as 'Get Rich Or Die Trying'. I thought that was very funny and contradictory because my point was quik's album are musically and lyrically better than 'Get Rich Or Die Trying'. I believe this is fact and it cant be disputed despite tastes.

You didn't get the point, I never said you don't listen to gza or that you only listen to quik. The point I was tryna make is that there're always lyricists you don't listen to as much as you listen to others even though others are better, and it doesn't make any sense to blame it on somebody's 'level of musical / poetical understanding' by saying the lyrics (or beats) are too advanced for him. GZA was just an example, which is why I said some of you. To make the example fit you better I might as well have said why don't you listen to rakim or krs all the time, they better than ghost or why do you like ghost more than gza even though gza's lyrics are on a higher level..   nobody's taste resembles the exact list of top musicians by neutral judgement.

only the first 2 sentences refered to your post specifically, the rest adressed the people in this thread in general, and it was said at least once that dude yall disagree with doesn't like quik cause it's too advanced, so that's what I was refering to. It was also said that quik is a better rapper than all 'commercial' east coast artists including d-block ect which is what I refered to when I said 'don't exaggerate'.

as for hiphop, while it's by far my favorite genre it doesn't take a specialist to see that there are genres of music that offer way more musical talent, considering compositions n shit you won't find in hiphop which uses alot of loops ect. There might be hiphopers who have the talent but hiphop production don't show it as much as some genres, classical music probably being ahead of all others.