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Re: Nature of the Threat - An anthropology class in one song
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2005, 03:38:37 PM »
it's mostly real shit he's kicking.  some of it is slightly questionable (the origins of man and race), but if a person summed up judiasm or christianity in a song, 80% of that shit would be fiction too, seeing as it's a fictional religion.  ras' song is more meaningful and accurate than what you'd hear in the historical accounts that most religions espouse.  people that don't like the truism's ras speaks try to pick out a line here or there and then try to dismiss the whole work based on a couple questionable lines.

i agree that his flow is horrible on this track, the beat is horrible as well.  ras stepped it up 200% on "interview with a vampire" and "music of the business" in terms of dropping knowledge in a song.
I also like Interview With a Vampire alot more then Nature of the Threat. Nature of the Threat is still dope.
 

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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2005, 03:40:50 PM »
yeah interview with a vampire i one of my favs, but theres something off about the way the vocals were recorded at certain spots which i cant get over
 

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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2005, 04:36:42 PM »
it's mostly real shit he's kicking.  some of it is slightly questionable (the origins of man and race), but if a person summed up judiasm or christianity in a song, 80% of that shit would be fiction too, seeing as it's a fictional religion.  ras' song is more meaningful and accurate than what you'd hear in the historical accounts that most religions espouse.  people that don't like the truism's ras speaks try to pick out a line here or there and then try to dismiss the whole work based on a couple questionable lines.

i agree that his flow is horrible on this track, the beat is horrible as well.  ras stepped it up 200% on "interview with a vampire" and "music of the business" in terms of dropping knowledge in a song.


The difference is that blatant evidence proves a lot of what Ras says as wrong. With the Bible there really aren't many sources that say otherwise because there aren't any other sources. Someone writing about Christianity as you say would be writing fiction but what is writing fact? There is nothing that documents Jesus's life other than the Bible (and the Quran I guess, plusa few otheer sources about his lost years). What you write about it is based on what you believe it was. You can believe the Bible or the Quran, or you can believe neither, but you cannot say it is fiction unless you have solid evidence or proof. Nature of the Threat has many theories and descriptions that are disputed by hundreds or primary sources that state otherwise.
 

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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2005, 04:50:20 PM »
Someone writing about Christianity as you say would be writing fiction but what is writing fact? There is nothing that documents Jesus's life other than the Bible

the reason it's not documented is because it's mostly fiction.  it largely represents an accumulation of stories, tales and myths that were passed down.  it's like if i started arguing that the "chronicles of narnia" was a true story, but the problem is that it's only recorded by the one source (c.s. lewis)...
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2005, 09:17:26 AM »
Someone writing about Christianity as you say would be writing fiction but what is writing fact? There is nothing that documents Jesus's life other than the Bible

the reason it's not documented is because it's mostly fiction.  it largely represents an accumulation of stories, tales and myths that were passed down.  it's like if i started arguing that the "chronicles of narnia" was a true story, but the problem is that it's only recorded by the one source (c.s. lewis)...


Again, the difference is that you could probably find interviews of Lewis talking about it as fiction and it was implied as fiction. Early christians weren't voluntarily feeding themselves to lions based on what was implied ficition. They believed it was true. I'm not saying one way or the other. I'm just saying you can't for certain say one way or another.
 

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Re: Nature of the Threat - An anthropology class in one song
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2005, 03:34:07 AM »


A lot of well read and philosophical Greeks and Romans were bisexual. There is no proof that most were, and there is next to know proof that the common man was.

The elite of every culture had fucked up shit going on. Many high class Egyptians would marry their sisters and have children. I've even heard of one case where a pharoah marrried his mother. The average Egyptian like the average Greek just lived a normal life.

That's a question for the ages; if you had to choose between fucking another man or your mother or sister which would you pick?


P.S. I'm not sure if Caesar practiced bisexuality. I'm pretty sure Augustus Caesar greatly rejected it.

"I've heard Egyptians"...?  Man... bring your proof, you got a reputation for making up stuff just to push your "everybody's messed up" doctrine.
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Re: Nature of the Threat - An anthropology class in one song
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2005, 03:40:10 AM »
I love when celebrities show us how "deep" they are. 

^^^ I know ever since celebrities like Micheal Moore became critical of the Bush administration, what your saying has become the new, cool thing for Zionist-Christian Conservative boys and girls to talk about at their coed volleyball tournaments.  But there's just one problem, Ras Kass isn't a celebrity, and he surely wasn't a celebrity when he dropped this album and made his record.  He was a hip-hop artist.  To be a great hip-hop artist you have to be a great writer and you have to convey your perspective on the world, that's his job; and at that time he was one of the best at it. 
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Re: Nature of the Threat - An anthropology class in one song
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2005, 07:40:54 AM »


A lot of well read and philosophical Greeks and Romans were bisexual. There is no proof that most were, and there is next to know proof that the common man was.

The elite of every culture had fucked up shit going on. Many high class Egyptians would marry their sisters and have children. I've even heard of one case where a pharoah marrried his mother. The average Egyptian like the average Greek just lived a normal life.

That's a question for the ages; if you had to choose between fucking another man or your mother or sister which would you pick?


P.S. I'm not sure if Caesar practiced bisexuality. I'm pretty sure Augustus Caesar greatly rejected it.

"I've heard Egyptians"...?  Man... bring your proof, you got a reputation for making up stuff just to push your "everybody's messed up" doctrine.


Incest in ancient Egypt is no secret. I'm just not sure about the mother/son marriage. Close cousin and brother sister marriaiges were common.

"Marrige was a very important part af ancient Egyptian society. Some people say it was almost a duty to get married. Husbands could marry more than one wife, and people of close relations (first cousins, brothers and sisters, ect.) could also wed one another. For the most part, however, incest was frowned upon, except in the royal family, where incest was used to safeguard the dynastic succession."

http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptianwomen.html


"Incest was used as a way of keeping the immediate royal family exclusive; the throne was passed to a son and incest would ensure he was of royal blood. (For example, Ramesses II was married to three of his daughters and Hatshepsut was married to her own brother). It was also a way of linking pharaohs with the gods as they were believed to be incestuous. For the rest of Egyptian society, marrying a relative was exceedingly rare (see Akhenaten)."

http://www.pbs.org/empires/egypt/life_pharaoh.html



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Re: Nature of the Threat - An anthropology class in one song
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2005, 11:17:05 AM »


A lot of well read and philosophical Greeks and Romans were bisexual. There is no proof that most were, and there is next to know proof that the common man was.

The elite of every culture had fucked up shit going on. Many high class Egyptians would marry their sisters and have children. I've even heard of one case where a pharoah marrried his mother. The average Egyptian like the average Greek just lived a normal life.

That's a question for the ages; if you had to choose between fucking another man or your mother or sister which would you pick?


P.S. I'm not sure if Caesar practiced bisexuality. I'm pretty sure Augustus Caesar greatly rejected it.

"I've heard Egyptians"...?  Man... bring your proof, you got a reputation for making up stuff just to push your "everybody's messed up" doctrine.


Incest in ancient Egypt is no secret. I'm just not sure about the mother/son marriage. Close cousin and brother sister marriaiges were common.

"Marrige was a very important part af ancient Egyptian society. Some people say it was almost a duty to get married. Husbands could marry more than one wife, and people of close relations (first cousins, brothers and sisters, ect.) could also wed one another. For the most part, however, incest was frowned upon, except in the royal family, where incest was used to safeguard the dynastic succession."

http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptianwomen.html


"Incest was used as a way of keeping the immediate royal family exclusive; the throne was passed to a son and incest would ensure he was of royal blood. (For example, Ramesses II was married to three of his daughters and Hatshepsut was married to her own brother). It was also a way of linking pharaohs with the gods as they were believed to be incestuous. For the rest of Egyptian society, marrying a relative was exceedingly rare (see Akhenaten)."

http://www.pbs.org/empires/egypt/life_pharaoh.html



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