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Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« on: December 02, 2005, 10:14:15 AM »
Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
Worldwide despise of the United States an intentional pre-cursor for world government takeover

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | December 2 2005

There is a deliberate agenda at hand to reflect an image of America to the world as a corrupt, evil, deceiving, hypocritical and brutal power. The Bush administration is being played like a fiddle and as each horror story scandal emerges, America sinks further into the waiting jaws of its 'savior' - the dark stalker of global government.

America was once the model of world freedom. Even as recently as the late 1980's, the United States was perceived as a benchmark of how free societies should operate, this despite a slow erosion of respect which began in the Vietnam era.

However, that was a drop in the ocean compared to now. America is universally hated by the population of almost every country on the planet.

Even in my homeland of Britain, America's supposed biggest ally, hatred of all things American, including the American people themselves, is at an all time high. The British hate Americans even more than they do the French or the Germans. In many cases the scope of the resentment is because individuals have difficulty separating the actions of an incumbent government from the real history of a country and its people.

Ceaseless warmongering, a worldwide torture policy and scandal after scandal have left America with a soiled global reputation.

America is the new evil empire, the new Soviet Union. Playing the role of the good guys is the EU/UN global government watchdog. This is the landscape of the manufactured multi-polar world. In reality, both entities are working towards the establishment of a unipolar world dictatorship and for that to happen, America has to be brought down from within.

Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, the lies that justified Iraq, indictments of high level Bush administration officials, brazen war profiteering, and the fallen cartoon character image of George W. Bush, all these issues were meant to come out and they were meant to contribute to the world's decaying tolerance of America as a superpower.

The European Union/United Nations global power bloc is waiting in the wings for when nationwide chaos engulfs America and they have to send in their 'peacekeeping' troops to restore order. Far from just being the plot of X Box video games, Republican Congressman Ron Paul recently warned of this outcome.

In a sense, every time we report on the latest embarrassment to inflict America's geopolitical standing, we are helping the Globalists further their ultimate end game. Should we be silent on such issues? Obviously not. But we should go to great lengths to stress that these events are designed to make America look bad and they are designed to prop up the world government fake left-wing alternative of the EU and the UN.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Both Republicans and Democrats are reading off a script. On the very same day people like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Joe Lieberman will come out in support of the war while Bush repeats tiresome cliches of staying the course. This is meant to make Americans turn away from the now obvious one party system and look to the international stage for relief.

The fact that a President who has to ask permission to use the bathroom and loses a battle of wits with a door is supposedly in charge of the biggest superpower on earth is again designed to make America look foolish in comparison to the austere, enlightened and rational image of the global government model.

The gigantic mess in Iraq fits in this same picture. When American troops finally do pull out they will be replaced by NATO forces. Even though, as is the case in Afghanistan, the turmoil will continue just the same, the media will rarely report on it and so the wider world will be hoodwinked into thinking that global government saved the day and cleaned up another filthy American quagmire.

Smaller scale terror attacks, as debated in the recent GOP 'terror memo,' occurring around the world and blamed on America's occupation of Iraq, will have the impact of locking in the domestic police state, while still giving the impression that the Bush administration is incompetent and wayward in prosecuting a 'war on terror' that doesn't even exist in the first place.

This whole unfolding scenario is only going to become clearer as we hurtle towards 2006.

America is meant to lose the war in Iraq. America is meant to lose the war on terror. America is meant to descend into anarchy at home.

The end of the age of American superpower status will be the entree for world government to step across the breach in the name of 'securing the interests of the planet' and any notion of national sovereignty will be cast aside and we will witness the birth of a new world order.


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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2005, 10:35:48 AM »
Isn't it odd that he doesn't have any real evidence to support his rambling, incoherent bullshit?  More right-wing paranoia crap.

That said, it does often seem as though other countries use our blunders in Iraq to further their envy of our status, and it's ridiculous that anti-Americanism is so high when the American people themselves are strongly divided over the matters listed.

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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2005, 11:02:52 AM »
here is some proof

GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline

Capitol Hill Blue/DOUG THOMPSON | November 12 2005

Comment: This document adds to the mountanous pile of smoking gun evidence of government complicity in staged terror attacks and other false flag operations. It has now been declassified, as we already knew, that the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. It was staged to get us into Vietnam. Operation Northwoods was the official US government plan to carry out 9/11 style attacks against the American people and blame it on foreign enemies as a pretext for war.

Read below as governmental leaders salivate over how wonderful a devastating terror attack would be against the American people for their policies, it would force us to accept total enslavement. It goes on to talk about our sorrow and pain and how it could be directed. I've been reading Capitol Hill Blue for years and they are one of the most impeccable sources we have found.

Publicly published PNAC documents before 9/11 had saliva stains all over them as Dick Cheney and others talked about helpful Pearl Harbor attacks. Prison recently interviewed Conservative leader Paul Craig Roberts and he stated that we're in real danger of the Bush administration staging terror attacks to defiblrilate their agenda.


A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."

The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”

The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.

GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.

“The President’s popularity was at an all-time high following the 9/11 attacks,” admits one aide. “Americans band together at a time of crisis.”

Other Republicans, however, worry that such a scenario carries high risk, pointing out that an attack might suggest the President has not done enough to protect the country.

“We also have to face the fact that many Americans no longer trust the President,” says a longtime GOP strategist. “That makes it harder for him to become a rallying point.”

The memo outlines other scenarios, including:

--Capture of Osama bin Laden (or proof that he is dead);

--A drastic turnaround in the economy;

--A "successful resolution" of the Iraq war.

GOP memos no longer talk of “victory” in Iraq but use the term “successful resolution.”

“A successful resolution would be us getting out intact and civil war not breaking out until after the midterm elections,” says one insider.

The memo circulates as Tuesday’s disastrous election defeats have left an already dysfunctional White House in chaos, West Wing insiders say, with shouting matches commonplace and the blame game escalating into open warfare.

“This place is like a high-school football locker room after the team lost the big game,” grumbles one Bush administration aide. “Everybody’s pissed and pointing the finger at blame at everybody else.”

Republican gubernatorial losses in Virginia and New Jersey deepened rifts between the Bush administration and Republicans who find the President radioactive. Arguments over whether or not the President should make a last-minute appearance in Virginia to try and help the sagging campaign fortunes of GOP candidate Jerry Kilgore raged until the minute Bush arrived at the rally in Richmond Monday night.

“Cooler heads tried to prevail,” one aide says. “Most knew an appearance by the President would hurt Kilgore rather than help him but (Karl) Rove rammed it through, convincing Bush that he had enough popularity left to make a difference.”

Bush didn’t have any popularity left. Overnight tracking polls showed Kilgore dropped three percentage points after the President’s appearance and Democrat Tim Kaine won on Tuesday.

Conservative Pennsylvania Republican Senator Rick Santorum told radio talk show host Don Imus Wednesday that he does not want the President's help and will stay away from a Bush rally in his state on Friday.

The losses in Virginia and New Jersey, coupled with a resounding defeat of ballot initiatives backed by GOP governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in California have set off alarm klaxons throughout the demoralized Republican party. Pollsters privately tell GOP leaders that unless they stop the slide they could easily lose control of the House in the 2006 midterm elections and may lose the Senate as well.

“In 30 years of sampling public opinion, I’ve never seen such a freefall in public support,” admits one GOP pollster.

Democratic pollster Geoffrey Garin says the usual tricks tried by Republicans no longer work.

"None of their old tricks worked," he says.

Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.) admits the GOP is a party mired in its rural base in a country that's becoming less and less rural.

"You play to your rural base, you pay a price," he says. "Our issues blew up in our face."

As Republican political strategists scramble to find a message – any message – that will ring true with voters, GOP leaders in Congress admit privately that control of their party by right-wing extremists makes their recovery all but impossible.

“We’ve made our bed with these people,” admits an aide to House Speaker Denny Hastert. “Now it’s the morning after and the hangover hurts like hell

Kal EL

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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2005, 11:04:06 AM »
here's more

Republican Congressman Ron Paul recently appeared on nationally syndicated radio and again reiterated his deep concern that foreign troops are mobilizing outside and inside America to be used as assets in a martial law takeover by the Bush administration.

"It's a horrible precedent and it's all part of the NAFTA scheme and globalization and world government," Paul told the Alex Jones Show.

"Obviously they shouldn't be permitted. What I'd like to see is that we don't have our troops in foreign countries and if we needed a national guard that they were back here at home, that's the bigger problem. Then if there were foreign troops on our soil maybe our state officials could deal with that with their own national guard."

Paul elaborated on his fear that after the next crisis the government, in line with their own public statements, will use military assets to police Americans on a regular basis.

"They're putting their back up against the wall and saying, if need be we're going to have martial law."

"We've heard all these statements by the President, by the administration, why they need more militarism at the federal government to keep people in check so nobody knows how this will turn out but I do know that the only thing we can do about it is try to alert the American people to what's going on so they can be prepared."

Paul offered his take on why the government seemed to be acting in a deranged and reckless manner on every issue.

"It's almost like they're going overboard that they lose their rationality and that's part of the reason why they usually fail too is they get overly bold and I think our government is overly bold thinking they are invincible and they feel invincible with their finances. Our government controls the reserve currency of the world, they literally have the ability to print gold."

In light of recent shocking rulings that authorize the EPA to conduct tests on orphan and mentally disabled children using pesticides, Paul made comparisons with a proposed universal mental screening program that he previously had helped defeat.

"I really thought that mental health testing and drugging was so evil and horrible, but this I think could even be a little bit worse when they talk about testing these kind of chemicals. But that's just confirmation once again that we as a country have been careless and we've allowed our government to act as parents for the children and, in spite of the shortcomings of some parents, parents do a much much better job."

Talking about children being in government care being five times more likely to be abused and Congressmen voting for those kind of measures, Paul stated,

"The results are so horrible you'd think maybe a little bit of logic would cause them to rethink their position but it doesn't seem to happen."

On the subject of his drive to get the US out of the UN, Paul pointed out the staged good cop, bad cop nature of the US-UN relationship.

"The Bush administration started bashing the UN and threatening the UN with cutting some of the funding but it was all a game they were playing because they literally gave the UN more power in the name of a reform."

"Who do we have at the UN, Bolton, the arch Neo-Con warmonger and actually what they've done is taken the Neo-Con position on intervening on the internal affairs of other nations and regime change and they've institutionalized that in the United Nations, now the UN is in the business of regime change

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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2005, 11:06:34 AM »
here's more

The Rummy and Pace Show

In a surprising event, General Pace actually corrected Rumsfeld publicly over policy. Let's hope his job isn't in jeopardy.


General Pace: "It is absolutely the responsibility of every U.S. service member, if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene to stop it,"

Rumsfeld: "But I don't think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it; it's to report it."

General Pace: "If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it ."

Thank you General-for demonstrating how a true military man should behave in a time of war while once again exposing Rumsfeld as the buffoon that he is.


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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2005, 11:07:49 AM »
here's more

Iraqis want Saddam to run for election’

Pakistan Daily Times | December 1 2005

AMMAN: Iraqis have asked Saddam Hussein’s defence team to mull the possibility of fielding the ousted dictator as a candidate for future elections, one of his lawyers said in remarks published on Wednesday.

“Iraqis have asked the defence team to study the legal conditions to present Saddam Hussein as a candidate for elections, first as an MP then as president,” Jordan’s Al-Dustour daily quoted former Qatari justice minister Najib al-Nuaimi as saying.

“If this contradicts the legal system then president Saddam will be nominated simply as a candidate,” he said, without specifying if Saddam could try to run in the December 15 election.

Nuaimi is among three foreign lawyers along with former US attorney general Ramsey Clark and Jordanian lawyer Issam Ghazzawi who were sworn in by the Iraqi court as members of Saddam’s defence at Monday’s hearing.

Asked by AFP about Nuaimi’s reported remarks, Ghazzawi said: “As we were leaving Iraq on Tuesday ordinary Iraqis at the airport approached us saying they wished that Saddam would return (as president).”

“These Iraqis said ‘we have lost security after Saddam, how we wish he would return’,” Ghazzawi said.

Meanwhile, former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark, who has joined Saddam Hussein’s defence team, said on Tuesday he had had no time to discuss legal issues or trial strategy at his first meeting with the Iraqi ex-president.

When they met for the first time on Monday, the day Saddam’s trial in Baghdad briefly resumed, Saddam said he was “overjoyed” to meet Clark and his companions, a former Qatari justice minister and a Jordanian lawyer, Clark said.

“He was in very good spirits. He didn’t want to talk about problems but was happy to have somebody to talk to. He said a little bit about the way he was treated,” Clark said.

Clark, speaking on arrival in the Jordanian capital from Baghdad, said he expected to meet the toppled Iraqi leader again on Sunday to discuss defence strategy ahead of the next hearing on Dec 5, following a one-week adjournment.

Saddam and seven fellow defendants are on trial in a fortified courtroom in Baghdad for crimes against humanity. All have pleaded not guilty.

There was no discussion of tactics at Monday’s meeting, Clark said.


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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2005, 11:11:06 AM »
here's more proof

New Article Says U.S. Allowing Genocide In Iraq
Robert Parry, a Washington journalist who has been around for years, has a new article in which he makes the case that the Bush administration's is allowing "genocide" against the Sunni people in Iraq. Strong words indeed.

Parry argues that the United States is turning a blind eye on the increasing number of atrocities committed by the Shiite militias against their longtime enemies. The discovery in recent days of a Shia-controlled prison in Baghdad is cited as just a symptom of the problem.

Parry likens the existence of Shiite death squads to what was seen in Central America during the Reagan years.

As Parry sees it, the only hope for the Sunnis would be their acceptance of second-class citizenship, anything less risks genocide at the hands of the Shia. Bush is portrayed as being more or less down with this program, like Reagan in the 1980's:

For his part, Bush reiterated that he will only be satisfied with "complete victory,"” which suggests he is resolved to break the back of the Sunni resistance at whatever cost.

The Bush administration also wants to keep a tight hold on information that might put the U.S. war effort in a negative light. That means the American people can expect to be shielded from many of the worst secrets in Iraq, much as the White House has continued to fight release of video showing abuses at Abu Ghraib and other U.S.-run prisons in Iraq.

According to U.S. military experts I've interviewed, a great deal of emphasis in the future will be on "perception management,"” the concept of shaping how both Iraqis and the American people perceive the events in Iraq.

The idea of "perception management" fits right in with what has come to light in the last few days about the "Lincoln Group." Sen. John Warner of the Armed Services Committee has announced that he will conduct an inquiry into the propaganda for pay story. The last time we heard that was when Sen. Warner promised to get to the bottom of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. We are still waiting.

Robert Parry's article is surely to be controversial, and much of his other work on is certainly worth looking at if you are unfamiliar with his essays.
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here's more

Thursday, December 01, 2005
U.S. Reportedly Seeking Negotiations With Taliban and Al Qaeda
Reports are circulating in Pakistan that the United States, frustrated by an increasing casualty rate in Afghanistan, is attempting to negotiate a truce or cease-fire with the leadership of the former Taliban and with elements of Al Qaeda.

A typically (for the intelligence business) convoluted series of events involving a Pakistani politician and U.S. diplomats has revealed the outline of the plan.

The Pakistani politician, Javed Ibrahim Paracha, a leader of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PNL-N), claimed that he was asked by U.S. and Pakistani intelligence officers to meet with undersecretary of State Karen Hughes during her recent trip to the Muslim world. Paracha alleged that he had been referred to the spooks by former ISI chiefs Gen. Ehsanul Haq and Gen. Hamid Gul. He originally reported that the meeting took place Nov 14 at the Serena Hotel in Islamabad. He said that the topic of the meeting was to induce him to make contact with leadership elements of the Taliban and Al Qaeda to begin peace negotiations.

Shortly after his comments were reported in the Pakistani media, Paracha says he received a telephone call about the matter from the U.S. embassy in Islamabad. Paracha has since changed his story. He claims now that he never met with Ms. Hughes, but rather with "U.S. businessmen" to discuss ways to safely get American troops out of Afghanistan.

The U.S. embassy expressly denies that Paracha met Karen Hughes during her visit. A spokesman for the Taliban also denies their involvement and says that only a full withdrawal of foreign troops in Afghanistan would be acceptable.

Paracha's claims could be dismissed by some as the paradise intoxicated ravings of a freedom-hating Muslim if not for the fact that Paracha is known to have good contacts with high-level Talibans and Al Qaeda. In late 2001, Paracha successfully negotiated the release of a large number of Arab captives charged with terrorism in Pakistan. That's the type of thing that contributes to the bona-fides of an "international type."

The question here is why, if this interpretation of events is correct, would the United States want to abandon the battle against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? This isn't a domestically unpopular war like our involvement in Iraq.

The answer would have to be that the U.S. knows that Osama bin Laden and the operational heads of Al Qaeda are not in Afghanistan and are never likely to return.

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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2005, 04:16:48 PM »
no worries! I appreciate the response. 


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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2005, 07:51:56 PM »
one brainashed fool says oh right wing paranoia without evidence, then when you present further detail they dont want to know, you get compelte silence or perhaps Ron Paul doesn't exist.

Actually, I simply forgot that I had posted in this thread and didn't bother checking it again.  So fuck off.

And his "futher detail" hardly proves his case.  Yes, this is a unipolar world and some people don't like that.  OK, I get the point, a lot of people hate us and will do stuff to spite us.  That doesn't mean their hatred is part of some huge conspiracy to create a world government - ever thought that maybe we've done a lot of shit that upsets them, and that they have a right to be upset about it?  It's hard to deny the hypocrisy that runs deep in America's supposed "pro-freedom" stances these days.

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Re: Empire In Descent: The Deliberate Destruction Of America
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2005, 08:07:18 AM »
true there is a hatred of america in certain places, however that is usually due to the policies that the american gov't has supported in those places. like creating and or supporting dictators and not saying anything about it until they cross our economic intrests in their areas.
here is a brief list of people that we empowered that later we deemed to be a problem

Fidel Castro
Sadaam Hussein
Mobutu Sese Seko (cia supported his takeover)
Dictator Country
Abacha, General Sani Nigeria
Amin, Idi  Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo  Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio  Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal  Brunei
Botha, P.W.  South Africa
Branco, General Humberto  Brazil
Cedras, Raoul  Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio  Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek  Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo  Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo  El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn  Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel  Liberia
Duvalier, Francois  Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude  Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King  Saudi Arabia
Franco, General Francisco  Spain
Hitler, Adolf  Germany
Hassan II  Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand  Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano Hernandez  El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko  Zaire
Montt, General Efrain Rios
Noriega, General Manuel  Panama
Ozal, Turgut  Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza  Iran
Papadopoulos, George  Greece
Park Chung Hee  South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto  Chile
Pol Pot Cambodia
Rabuka, General Sitiveni  Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios  Guatemala
Salassie, Halie  Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira  Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr.  Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr.  Nicaragua
Smith, Ian  Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo  Paraguay
Suharto, General  Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas  Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael  Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed  Pakistan
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