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ohio patriot act
« on: December 26, 2005, 11:43:25 PM »
Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place
Citizens Would Also Have To Show ID

UPDATED: 7:22 pm EST December 19, 2005

CLEVELAND -- A bill on Gov. Bob Taft's desk right now is drawing a lot of criticism, NewsChannel5 reported.

One state representative said it resembles Gestapo-style tactics of government, and there could be changes coming on the streets of Ohio's small towns and big cities.

The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.


WEWS reported it would also pave the way for everyone entering critical transportation sites such as, train stations, airports and bus stations to show ID.

"It brings us frighteningly close to a show me your papers society," said Carrie Davis of the ACLU, which opposes the Ohio Patriot Act.

There are many others who oppose the bill as well.


"The variety of people who opposed to this is not just a group of the usual suspects. We have people far right to the left opposing the bill who think it is a bad idea," said Al McGinty, NewsChannel5’s terrorism expert.

McGinty said he isn't sure the law would do what it's intended to do.

"I think anything we do to enhance security and give power to protect the public to police officers is a good idea," he said. "It is a good law in the wrong direction."

Gov. Bob Taft will make the ultimate decision on whether to sign the bill.

WEWS was told that Taft is expected to sign the bill into law, but legal experts expect that it will be challenged in courts.
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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2005, 12:13:25 AM »
The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.

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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2005, 12:17:39 AM »
The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.

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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2005, 11:26:47 AM »
The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.

This makes no sense, if you don't give a Police Officer your name you ARE doing something wrong by not doing so.  I agree, they should be arrested for that.

If you are doing (or have done) nothing wrong you should have no problem providing that information to the Police.
 

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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2005, 12:52:22 PM »
Great, give the police more ability to possibly become corrupt & abuse authority. Thank God I don't live in Ohio.
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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2005, 02:20:53 PM »
The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.

This makes no sense, if you don't give a Police Officer your name you ARE doing something wrong by not doing so.  I agree, they should be arrested for that.

If you are doing (or have done) nothing wrong you should have no problem providing that information to the Police.

If you are doing nothing wrong, then the police shouldn't have a problem with you. People have rights and freedoms, and the government is taking them away.
Are you saying random cops should also be allowed to strip search you for no reason... I mean after all, if you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't have a problem with it, right?
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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2005, 02:30:31 PM »
If you are doing nothing wrong, then the police shouldn't have a problem with you. People have rights and freedoms, and the government is taking them away.
Are you saying random cops should also be allowed to strip search you for no reason... I mean after all, if you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't have a problem with it, right?

You could still be at a crime scene, be doing nothing wrong and the Police would like information from you like your name and address.

Having a strip search conducted is much more intrusive than having someone ask your name.
 

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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2005, 02:54:18 PM »
If you are doing nothing wrong, then the police shouldn't have a problem with you. People have rights and freedoms, and the government is taking them away.
Are you saying random cops should also be allowed to strip search you for no reason... I mean after all, if you have nothing on you, then you shouldn't have a problem with it, right?

You could still be at a crime scene, be doing nothing wrong and the Police would like information from you like your name and address.

Having a strip search conducted is much more intrusive than having someone ask your name.

There's a difference between being at a crime scene, and the cops asking everyone there for info... and some random cop coming up to you just because he feels like it... this is basically a way for them to take racial profiling to another level...

Having a strip search conducted is more intrusive.. yes.. but a right taken away is a right taken away.
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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2005, 09:38:13 PM »
Land of the free, ey ?

Good thing you're home of the brave as well, this is nuthin.  ;)
 

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Re: ohio patriot act
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2005, 12:16:32 AM »
why do people from ohio hate freedom?