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For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« on: January 05, 2006, 01:05:22 AM »
hey mama off of late registration has to be one of the best songs ive heard in the longest time.  i been listnein to this song so much lately and its real good.  got some real meaning and he pours his heart into this track.  when i listen to it i feel like it was written for me and my mom.  for you westcoast fans that like 2pac dear mama, which i love also, gotta hear this track its right there with it.


"Hey Mama"

[Chorus]
(Hey Mama), I wanna scream so loud for you, cuz I'm so proud of you
Let me tell you what I'm about to do, (Hey Mama)
I know I act a fool but, I promise you I'm goin back to school
I appreciate what you allowed for me
I just want you to be proud of me (Hey Mama)

[Verse 1]
I wanna tell the whole world about a friend of mine
This little light of mine and I'm finna let it shine
I'm finna take yall back to them better times
I'm finna talk about my mama if yall don't mind
I was three years old, when you and I moved to the Chi
Late December, harsh winter gave me a cold
You fixed me up something that was good for my soul
Famous homemade chicken soup, can I have another bowl?
You work late nights just to keep on the lights
Mommy got me training wheels so I could keep on my bike
And you would give anything in this world
Michael Jackson leather and a glove, but didn't give me a curl
And you never put no man over me
And I love you for that mommy cant you see?
Seven years old, caught you with tears in your eyes
Cuz a nigga cheatin, telling you lies, then I started to cry
As we knelt on the kitchen floor
I said mommy Imma love you till you don't hurt no more
And when I'm older, you aint gotta work no more
And Imma get you that mansion that we couldn't afford
See you're, unbreakable, unmistakable
Highly capable, lady that's makin loot
A livin legend too, just look at what heaven do
Send us an angel, and I thank you (Hey Mama)

[Chorus]

[Verse 2]
Forrest Gump mama said, life is like a box of chocolates
My mama told me go to school, get your doctorate
Somethin to fall back on, you could profit with
But still supported me when I did the opposite
Now I feel like it's things I gotta get
Things I gotta do, just to prove to you
You was getting through, can the choir please
Give me a verse of "You, Are So Beautiful To Me"
Can't you see, you're like a book of poetry
Maya Angelou, Nicky Giovanni, turn one page and there's my mommy
Come on mommy just dance wit me, let the whole world see your dancing feet
Now when I say Hey, yall say Mama, now everybody answer me (Hey Mama)

[Chorus]

[Bridge]
I guess it also depends tho, if my ends low
Second they get up you gon get that Benzo
Tint the windows, ride around the city and let ya friends know (Hey Mama)

[Verse 3]
Tell your job you gotta fake em out
Since you brought me in this world, let me take you out
To a restaurant, upper echelon
Imma get you a jag, whatever else you want
Just tell me what kind of S-Type Donda West like?
Tell me the perfect color so I make it just right
It don't gotta be Mother's Day, or your birthday
For me to just call and say (Hey Mama)

[Chorus (with variations)]


 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2006, 01:08:59 AM »
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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2006, 01:11:14 AM »
that sweatervest wearing asshole cheated me out of 18 dollars to buy a piece of crap album.
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2006, 01:13:24 AM »
the version off the advance was better, i think the guitar in it made it worse
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2006, 01:27:31 AM »
that sweatervest wearing asshole cheated me out of 18 dollars to buy a piece of crap album.
damn J, u shoulda never gone near it!
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2006, 02:04:44 AM »
It is a great song. I've been feeling Addiction lately too. By 2005 standards, Kanye has one of the best hip hop albums out right now.

Dude's ego makes me wanna hate him and his music though.
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2006, 02:23:35 AM »
that sweatervest wearing asshole cheated me out of 18 dollars to buy a piece of crap album.

why the fuck would you purchase a bill cosby album?

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2006, 03:35:32 AM »
great song yes



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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2006, 07:12:22 AM »
that song is nice ye, kanye does piss me off though.

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2006, 07:12:47 AM »
It is a great song. I've been feeling Addiction lately too. By 2005 standards, Kanye has one of the best hip hop albums out right now.

Dude's ego makes me wanna hate him and his music though.

ive been bumpin addiction alot too.

 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2006, 07:15:18 AM »
Good song but Kanye is a fag.
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2006, 09:10:15 AM »
Kanye is a very smart.

His marketing makes him like the Muhammad Ali of Hio-Hop right now. People hated Ali, but they still paid to see him box. People hate on Kanye, but he puts out classic CDs so people will buy it, hoping they can diss it. Kanye still ends up rich. Very smart.
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2006, 09:55:59 AM »
Kanye is a very smart.

His marketing makes him like the Muhammad Ali of Hio-Hop right now. People hated Ali, but they still paid to see him box. People hate on Kanye, but he puts out classic CDs so people will buy it, hoping they can diss it. Kanye still ends up rich. Very smart.


He barely broke even with this album, if he even did. Ali was the biggest draw of his time moneywise, Kanye is nowhere near the most bought artist. I always questioned how legit some of Ali's matches were but I never questioned hid ability to make more money than anyone else. And people didn't hate him all that much. They liked to watch him play the pro wrestler in boxing. It was fun. Every 60+ year old I talk to says he was very popular and not very hated. The booing in the Listin matches were more about everyone thinking they were fixed rather than hating Ali. Kanye sucks at music in my opinion and he doesn't make all that much money. It just seems that way because of the hype.
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2006, 11:56:59 AM »
addiction is a nice song!
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2006, 12:37:33 PM »
I liked Hey Mama better off the advance too)kanye always changes his songs too much), the new one seems too busy.  Musically, it is very impressive though.

I don't really get how people hate on Kanye's music though..............the guy puts TIME AND EFFORT into his music, something very few rappers try to do.  He PUSHES THE ENVELOPE, does not rap about the same tired ass shit, and experiments with different sounds, etc. 

He had much success with College Dropout, but didn't do a carbon copy even though it would have sold a couple million guaranteed. 

And who gives a fuck if he is gay or not? Speaking out against homophobia does not make someone gay, nor does dressing up once in awhile.  Besides, WHY DO YA"LL CARE HOW SOMEONE DRESSES OR ACTS ANYWAY, its just music!!!

And SHALLOW, WHO THE FUCK CARES IF KANYE MAKES MONEY OR NOT???  The fact that he was willing to spend 3 million on an album, or that he produced his own THorugh the Wire video when noone believed in him should tell you he's about the art and making quality music, not money.  Besides, the fact that his record label (GOOD MUSIC) is nominated for 20 GRAMMIES should bring in a little money, as well as all the other joints he does for artists.  You realize artists don't make their money off cd's. but off touring........and have you any idea how successful the "tough the sky" tour was.............

I can see how people could not feel kanye's music, but calling him gay, saying he has not talent is ridiculous.  He is one of the best overall artists in hiphop and has succeeded despite being a little different, and its pretty hard to deny his influence on the game.............
 

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2006, 12:48:06 PM »
I liked Hey Mama better off the advance too)kanye always changes his songs too much), the new one seems too busy.  Musically, it is very impressive though.

I don't really get how people hate on Kanye's music though..............the guy puts TIME AND EFFORT into his music, something very few rappers try to do.  He PUSHES THE ENVELOPE, does not rap about the same tired ass shit, and experiments with different sounds, etc. 

He had much success with College Dropout, but didn't do a carbon copy even though it would have sold a couple million guaranteed. 

And who gives a fuck if he is gay or not? Speaking out against homophobia does not make someone gay, nor does dressing up once in awhile.  Besides, WHY DO YA"LL CARE HOW SOMEONE DRESSES OR ACTS ANYWAY, its just music!!!

And SHALLOW, WHO THE FUCK CARES IF KANYE MAKES MONEY OR NOT???  The fact that he was willing to spend 3 million on an album, or that he produced his own THorugh the Wire video when noone believed in him should tell you he's about the art and making quality music, not money.  Besides, the fact that his record label (GOOD MUSIC) is nominated for 20 GRAMMIES should bring in a little money, as well as all the other joints he does for artists.  You realize artists don't make their money off cd's. but off touring........and have you any idea how successful the "tough the sky" tour was.............

I can see how people could not feel kanye's music, but calling him gay, saying he has not talent is ridiculous.  He is one of the best overall artists in hiphop and has succeeded despite being a little different, and its pretty hard to deny his influence on the game.............

Yeah some of the replys here are crazy.

"I like his music but hes gay."

I mean wtf is that  ???
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2006, 12:51:43 PM »
i dont hate kanye musically but i do hate him lyrically at the moment, he needs to put some time and effort into his lyrics. Hey Mama was recorded years back maybe thats y lyrically its on point. 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2006, 12:54:18 PM »
barely broke even ?? so you mean he didnt get any cheese ??? when you certified platinum you get $$$$$$$ , also dont ignore all the magazines, websites that are dying for photo shoots, interviews thats $$$
then you got the $$$$ coming from his sold out shows and concerts
so
kanye >>>>>you  :P
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2006, 02:54:05 PM »
It is a great song. I've been feeling Addiction lately too.

Dude's ego makes me wanna hate him and his music though.

hell yeah! "Addiction" is...well addictive.

and co-sign on the ego. If dude could just accept not winning every award, i dont think he'd recieve as much hate.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2006, 03:20:08 PM »
Teecee, you were very on point with everything u said i feel. Kanye does put hella effort into his music and the music envokes feeling. there was great instrumentation on this album, Its sad how people on this board complain about eveyone doing the same old thing, and when someone does finally do something different he gets hated on  ???
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2006, 04:58:24 PM »
Teecee, you were very on point with everything u said i feel. Kanye does put hella effort into his music and the music envokes feeling. there was great instrumentation on this album, Its sad how people on this board complain about eveyone doing the same old thing, and when someone does finally do something different he gets hated on  ???

yep teecee was on point

 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2006, 05:11:56 PM »
And SHALLOW, WHO THE FUCK CARES IF KANYE MAKES MONEY OR NOT???  The fact that he was willing to spend 3 million on an album, or that he produced his own THorugh the Wire video when noone believed in him should tell you he's about the art and making quality music, not money.  Besides, the fact that his record label (GOOD MUSIC) is nominated for 20 GRAMMIES should bring in a little money, as well as all the other joints he does for artists.  You realize artists don't make their money off cd's. but off touring........and have you any idea how successful the "tough the sky" tour was.............

I can see how people could not feel kanye's music, but calling him gay, saying he has not talent is ridiculous.  He is one of the best overall artists in hiphop and has succeeded despite being a little different, and its pretty hard to deny his influence on the game.............


The guy I responded to cares about money. He compared him to Ali in that respect. Ali was the biggest money maker in sports in his prime and Kanye is not the biggest money maker in music. He's not even close. His CD had to go 2.2 or 2.4 platinum to break even, it barely did that, and his concert tour wasn't all that high the revenue list. )P.S., I think I heard him say he spent 600 grand on the album, not 3 million, but I don't have any proof. Can you proove he spent 3 mil?)

Here's the list;

1. The Rolling Stones $162.0 / $133.98

2. U2 $138.9 / $96.92

3. Celine Dion $81.3 / $136.04

4. Paul McCartney $77.3 / $135.46

5. Eagles $76.8 / $104.17

6. Elton John $65.8 / $102.46

7. Kenny Chesney $61.8 / $54.63

8. Dave Matthews Band $57.0 / $47.09

9. Neil Diamond $47.3 / $63.02

10. Jimmy Buffett $41.0 / $76.49

11. Mötley Crüe $39.9 / $46.48

12. Green Day $34.8 / $38.07

13. Toby Keith $31.6 / $46.11

14. Rascal Flatts $28.2 / $34.92

15. Bruce Springsteen $26.3 / $81.00

16. Gwen Stefani $24.2 / $54.46

17. Coldplay $24.1 / $40.80

18. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers $23.6 / $38.05

19. Barry Manilow $22.7 / $153.93

20. "Anger Management Tour" $21.6 / $64.03



Where's Kanye?


http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=6558


for some more info on the tours;

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/2005/12/29/1372748-ap.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/6/story.cfm?c_id=6&ObjectID=10362284

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/lifestyle/bal-to.tours02jan02,1,7557667.story?coll=bal-artslife-today&ctrack=1&cset=true

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=46212


Kanye is nowhere on the list.


As for the quality of his music. I don't care for it. I think his lyrics are simple and often stupid or goofy. I think his sample are blatant and not very altered or creative (I listen to the originals of Jesus Walks, Diamonds Are Forever, Through the Wire, or Gold Digger and like the old ones better). I think his flow and delivery is mediocre. I think he is great at one thing though; he is amazing at convincing people (stupid teenage white girls) that he is a musical genius. It doesn't take much genius to sample and loop great old songs and spit pretentious nursery rhymes over them, but that's just my opinion. (of course I have hated him as a producer ever since he sample CSN's Chicago for Beanie Sigel's The Truth and didn't give credit, and people thought he composed it).


 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2006, 05:25:34 PM »
I can't believe some of you like "Addiction".  That song is awful, easily worst on the album.
 

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Re: For Everyone that hates on Kanye West
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2006, 05:59:42 PM »
Those numbers prove nothing. All of those artists listed have been around for a while. Kanye is a relatively new artist so of course he has yet to reach those numbers.

And Addiction > Gold Digger & Celebration
 

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2006, 06:14:56 PM »
Those numbers prove nothing. All of those artists listed have been around for a while. Kanye is a relatively new artist so of course he has yet to reach those numbers.

And Addiction > Gold Digger & Celebration


The numbers proove that he isn't the top selling guy in the industry. Gwen Stefani sold just as many copies and made more in ticket sales, and she hasn't been around that much longer. Em hasn't been around all that much longer and his album sold more copies than both of Kanye's combined and Em's album sucked. All I'm saying is that Kanye is not Ali right now.