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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #75 on: January 17, 2006, 11:09:19 AM »

Geezy do you think Israel has a right to keep palestinian land?
 

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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #76 on: January 17, 2006, 11:13:50 AM »

Erase that, I already know you will say yes  :(
 

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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #77 on: January 17, 2006, 11:35:02 AM »
Define Palestinian Land...lol
 Do you think the Jewish People are entitled to a state?
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #78 on: January 17, 2006, 06:54:49 PM »
Define Palestinian Land...lol
 Do you think the Jewish People are entitled to a state?

If it means killing and removing the indigenous population of a land and not allowing them to return... then No.

Let me ask you this... in the case of Europeans coming to America... were the Native Americans the victims or the Europeans?
Any person with even a minimal amount of common sense and knowledge will tell you it was obviously the Native Americans.
Now just switch America with Palestine, and Native Americans with Palestinians and you have yourself the truth.

Also, ask yourself... who was living there, and who arrived to colonize... that will tell you who has "claim" to the land.
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #79 on: January 18, 2006, 11:25:09 AM »
Your analogy is flawed.
Europeans who came to colonize America already had national homes/countries.
Europeans who came to colonize America weren't persecuted because they didn't have a national home.
Europeans who came to colonize America wanted to force their culture and religion on the native population.

Jews came back to their Historical homeland, from which they were exiled, to save themselves from Anti-semitism.

Jews didn't have a national home
Jews were persecuted for centuries because they didn't have a national home
Jews didn't come with an intention to force anything on the native population
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #80 on: January 18, 2006, 12:54:55 PM »
Your analogy is flawed.
Europeans who came to colonize America already had national homes/countries.
Europeans who came to colonize America weren't persecuted because they didn't have a national home.
Europeans who came to colonize America wanted to force their culture and religion on the native population.

Jews came back to their Historical homeland, from which they were exiled, to save themselves from Anti-semitism.

Jews didn't have a national home
Jews were persecuted for centuries because they didn't have a national home
Jews didn't come with an intention to force anything on the native population

The reasons you have provided.... none of them justify killing and removing an indigenous population off their land and not allowing them to return.

You're right about one thing... they didn't force anything on the native population... what are they gonna force on them if they drive them off their own land?
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #81 on: January 19, 2006, 03:33:28 AM »
So it's about justification now.
Does the fact Jews came to settle on the same piece of land, give people the right to kill Jews?...If that's your ideology, I'm not surprised we're still having this debate.

When it is a question of survival.
When Jews are being slaughtered in the only place in the world where they expected to live in peace, after years of persecution and oppression in Europe.
When for the first time in 2000 years the Jewish People can finally establish a national home- A REFUGE, first and formost due to persecution elsewhere.

Aggression can't be tolerated.



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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #82 on: January 19, 2006, 10:49:48 AM »

In reality we all know that jews have massacred the palestinians before, we know that sharons infamous squad bulldozed peoples homes with the people stay inside them, we know that israel has deliberately destroyed palestinian water supplies before, we know that israel has driven the natives off their land and we know that sharon allowed the massacres in refugee camps. Your absolutely right aggression shouldnt be tolerated if the so called civilised world gave a shit they would have put a stop to israels sickening abuses but they dont they just bankroll them all the more, provide them with yet more military hardware.

The prime example of this was Israel massacring the members on board the USS LIberty that in itself is an act of war and yet the U.S reward them with yet more "aid". The collusion is disgusting, no one seems to give a fuck if a palestinian dies or lives.
 

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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2006, 11:26:59 AM »
Thing is, you assume or try to convince yourself some of the tragic accidetns that occured, during certain military operations by the IDF, were premeditated.
Whether Palestinian Militants are targeting civilians isn't even debated, it's a fact!
Every and each one of your posts comes to indoctrinate terrorism! You're trying to justify the murder of civilians through assumptions, and misonconceptions you've got, about the IDF and Israel's Agenda.

I'm a first person witness to IDF's moral code, from inside. You don't have to believe me since what I'm saying is factual- it makes no difference whether you believe me or not, THE IDF, AS AN INSTITUTION, IS AMONG THE MOST MORALLY AWARE MILITARY ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD!


How many armies in the world can claim to have a warning mechanism for civilians at times of war.
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #84 on: January 19, 2006, 11:42:59 AM »
So it's about justification now.
Does the fact Jews came to settle on the same piece of land, give people the right to kill Jews?...If that's your ideology, I'm not surprised we're still having this debate.

When it is a question of survival.
When Jews are being slaughtered in the only place in the world where they expected to live in peace, after years of persecution and oppression in Europe.
When for the first time in 2000 years the Jewish People can finally establish a national home- A REFUGE, first and formost due to persecution elsewhere.

Aggression can't be tolerated.

1. Jews didn't simply come to "settle" the land. Are you now going to deny the whole definition of Zionism?
2. The Jews were carrying out attacks on Palestinians.
3. Palestinian people have the right to defend THEIR land. If some group of European colonizers is trying to steal the land and create their own country on it, then yes, the Palestinian people have the right to do so. Your own faggot Zionist leaders of the past have acknowledged this.
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #85 on: January 19, 2006, 12:56:19 PM »
Jews came to settle, contrary to wondering from place to place.
Jews came to create a national refuge from Anti-semitism.
Jews didn't exclude bi-national statehood, nor did they exclude two states co-existing side by side.

You're right people have the right to defend their land. Question is, why didn't they?
Why did these large numbers of people leave their land when they were closest to statehood?


 
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2006, 01:04:54 PM »
Jews came to settle, contrary to wondering from place to place.
Jews came to create a national refuge from Anti-semitism.
Jews didn't exclude bi-national statehood, nor did they exclude two states co-existing side by side.

You're right people have the right to defend their land. Question is, why didn't they?
Why did these large numbers of people leave their land when they were closest to statehood?

LOLLL @ they didn't exlude bi-national statehood.... NO SHIT... that's like somebody coming to your house and telling you "I'm willing to share it with you"... I can't believe you wouldn't be willing to do that... fucking retard man.

They left because the Zionist terrorist groups were carrying out massacres.
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2006, 03:29:19 PM »

Zionist terrorists have been active in bombings in Iran, Egypt and in fact all over the middle east. In fact one of labours female mp's who is half jewish said that we should all recognise that Israel got its way through terrorism.
 

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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #88 on: January 19, 2006, 03:38:51 PM »
This is where it ends up JML to deny the holocaust is evil but to deny the massacres is correct, next thing is he will say it was egypt who attacked the USS Liberty not Israel. So in the end all he can resort to is saying you support the terrorists!, lol its so pathetic and predictable. Lets not forget people like him even have a slur for jewish people who are honest, they cant call them anti semetic, so they have to call them self hating jews instead.
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #89 on: January 20, 2006, 02:18:19 AM »
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2006, 03:28:16 AM »
You can talk to each other if that helps you feel better with the bullshit you guys are coming up with.
Someone coming to my house to share it with me? So you're saying Arabs have some sort of natural claim to this land? regardless of mandates it was under?
It's more like if you rent an apartment and then someone comes and tells you you won't need to rent it anymore but you can own it, thanks to me, only if we can share it!
May I remind you that Arab imperialism is what made the Arab population on this land so dominant. Or do you choose again to disregard history?

The Israeli left wing is something you're failing to grasp my friend. What every politician is willing to say for votes is no different in the Israeli democracy. Don't forget we also have a large Arab population(20%) in Israel- they are also voters. I think it's only a showcase of the ideological diversity in Israel. This is something you don't get in terroristic/totalitarian states like Iran, Egypt etc . I wonder where's the Jewish representation in the Palestinian parliament. I clearly recall that Jews can also be "Palestinian" by definition if they were born on this territory before so and so according to their declaration. Oh wait, do they have a Parliament?....lol

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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2006, 04:42:20 AM »
So you're saying Arabs have some sort of natural claim to this land?

Think about it.... a person living there at the time of the Zionists' arrival isn't allowed to live there anymore... but some Zionists from Europe are? You want to talk about claim? LOLL get the fuck outta here
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #92 on: January 20, 2006, 10:49:26 AM »
Shouldn't have left if they wanted to live on this land, when they were granted with a state. :)
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Re: Ariel Sharon Is Finished in Politics
« Reply #93 on: January 20, 2006, 11:48:28 AM »
ok for the ones that stayed israel has not allowed new buildings or modification for example east jureseluem is exactly the same it was since the 1967 war.....

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?