Lifestyle > Sports & Entertainment
WOW Steelers win a nail biter!
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Perfection on January 17, 2006, 12:47:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2006, 07:16:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: Perfection on January 16, 2006, 10:36:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy on January 15, 2006, 02:02:53 PM ---What the fuck did Peyton do to choke? If it wasnt for Peyton, the Colts wouldnt even be in position to tie the game in the end. It's not peyton's fault their O-line stunk it up.
--- End quote ---
It's Peyton's fault that the Colts offense never adapted to the way the Steelers defense was playing. The Steelers were blitzing all game & there are 2 ways to help make a defense stop blitzing, draw play & screen play. Peyton called none of those plays. I believe he let his ego get the better of him in that in his mind he wasn't going to resort to calling a screen play & probably thought cause he's Peyton Manning, still standing in the pocket for a long time & throwing the ball down the field was eventually going to work. & Peyton proved after the game that he isn't much of a leader considering he threw his entire offensive line under the bus & didn't take responsbility for the way the Colts offsense played.
If it wasn't for the refs the Colts wouldn't have been in position to win that game in the end, seeing how the NFL has said that the refs messed up & that was an INT & then a fumble. So it should have been Steelers' ball & they end up winning 21-10.
So like I said, there are ways help make a defense not blitz so much at least & Peyton Manning never called any of those plays. Now the Colts are going to lose their MVP in the offseason (James) & probably lose Reggie Wayne as well.
--- End quote ---
Yeah but if the refs made the right call on the 4th and 1 then Pit would have had 4th and 6 and punted instead of ran and then they wouldn't have had their 3rd TD. So it would have been 14-11. Tit for tat.
And it is not Manning's fault that the Oline crumbled. Screenplay or nor screen play, the linebackers and safeties were all over everything. Plus, Manning changes the lays when he sees fit. The Colts have and a co-ordinater and a head coach who would have forced that style on Manning by half time if they though it would have worked. Most of the time it wasn't even blitzing. It was to linemen on one guy while a another defensive lineman just walked in and got to Manning. No one is saying that Manning couldn't have played better but given the circumstances I don't think anyone outside of Michael Vick or Doug Flutie could have done anything to get away from the sacks. Not Marino. Not Favre. Vick would have thrown more INTs thanks to has bad accuracy, but I think a '98 Flutie would have went to town on that D, but he suffers in pocket passing.
--- End quote ---
Peyton should've taken some of the responsibility & because he threw all of the blame on everyone else but him, it shows he's not a true leader. & you saw how Manning didn't listen to Dungy when Dungy sent out the punt team, if Manning was told something by Moore or Dungy, there's a good chance Manning siad he would do it, & then changed the play.
& are you talking about the play where the Colts defense stopped to agrue a false start that went uncalled & because the Colts' defense did that they should've been called for a delay of game penatly?
--- End quote ---
All Peyton said was there was protection issues. That's hardly blaming everyone else but him. He didn't say anything about who you consider the MVP not being able to make any big plays. Why? Because thanks to the Oline breakdown James couldn't get any good chances to run. He didn't say anything about the WRs not getting open. Why? Beccause 2.2 seconds is not enough time to get open. The team was outplayed and outcoached. It's simple as that. People are just kicking Manning now that he's down. They did the same thing to John Elway once.
And if you study the rulebook you'll notice that an offensive lineman cannot move while he's in position. Pit's lineman moved his foot, the Colts line saw it and rushed. The call was missed.
BOX5 the best poster on this site yell:
PEYTON CHOKED PLAIN AND SIMPLE,STOP trying to take up for that hillbilly,he know the steelers are blitz burg, he threw that int that the ref just act like didn't happen,they did everything they could to help that guy,hell even patriots got cheated outta some plays in they game with that champ bailey play should have been a touch bacc, face it peyton choked again hahahahaha,i had that bastard going to the super bowl for these past 3 years and the hillybilly choked again, peyton manning and andy reid of the eagles are choke artist,untill they win the big one they have to deal with they failure,and don't blame the colts o-line or defence ether,because when my squad won the super bowl (the rams of course) we ain't have no defence and only two good o-line players yell
Shallow:
--- Quote from: BOX5 on January 17, 2006, 05:30:00 PM ---PEYTON CHOKED PLAIN AND SIMPLE,STOP trying to take up for that hillbilly,he know the steelers are blitz burg, he threw that int that the ref just act like didn't happen,they did everything they could to help that guy,hell even patriots got cheated outta some plays in they game with that champ bailey play should have been a touch bacc, face it peyton choked again hahahahaha,i had that bastard going to the super bowl for these past 3 years and the hillybilly choked again, peyton manning and andy reid of the eagles are choke artist,untill they win the big one they have to deal with they failure,and don't blame the colts o-line or defence ether,because when my squad won the super bowl (the rams of course) we ain't have no defence and only two good o-line players yell
--- End quote ---
So when a football team wins or loses it's only because of how well the QB does? And any QB that never wins isn't that good? So I guess Trent Dilfer or Tony Banks, Brad Johnson, and Jim McMahon are all better than Dan Marino.
I guess when St. Loius won it was all because of Warner. The other 5 probowlers on the team had nothing to do with it. The fact thaat they held the number 7 ranked offense Titans to 16 points was nothing.
I'm not defending Manning. He could have and should have played better and needs to improve his scrambling in case of emergencies, but let's be realistic. You give today's Peyton Manning the '95 Cowboys' Oline and have them play Pittsburgh and there is no way in hell the Colts would have lost. NFL is a team game and the team was outplayed. The D shut down on the first two Pit drives and the Oline shut down all day. To simply blame Manning is bullshit. He could have played better but if he was on Pit Sunday and Ben was on Indy then Manning would be playing next week and Ben would be going home. Because PITTSBURGH outplayed INDIANAPOLIS.
The Big Bad Ass:
--- Quote from: BOX5 on January 17, 2006, 05:30:00 PM ---PEYTON CHOKED PLAIN AND SIMPLE,STOP trying to take up for that hillbilly,he know the steelers are blitz burg, he threw that int that the ref just act like didn't happen,they did everything they could to help that guy,hell even patriots got cheated outta some plays in they game with that champ bailey play should have been a touch bacc, face it peyton choked again hahahahaha,i had that bastard going to the super bowl for these past 3 years and the hillybilly choked again, peyton manning and andy reid of the eagles are choke artist,untill they win the big one they have to deal with they failure,and don't blame the colts o-line or defence ether,because when my squad won the super bowl (the rams of course) we ain't have no defence and only two good o-line players yell
--- End quote ---
Longest sentence ever.
BOX5 the best poster on this site yell:
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2006, 06:35:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: BOX5 on January 17, 2006, 05:30:00 PM ---PEYTON CHOKED PLAIN AND SIMPLE,STOP trying to take up for that hillbilly,he know the steelers are blitz burg, he threw that int that the ref just act like didn't happen,they did everything they could to help that guy,hell even patriots got cheated outta some plays in they game with that champ bailey play should have been a touch bacc, face it peyton choked again hahahahaha,i had that bastard going to the super bowl for these past 3 years and the hillybilly choked again, peyton manning and andy reid of the eagles are choke artist,untill they win the big one they have to deal with they failure,and don't blame the colts o-line or defence ether,because when my squad won the super bowl (the rams of course) we ain't have no defence and only two good o-line players yell
--- End quote ---
So when a football team wins or loses it's only because of how well the QB does? And any QB that never wins isn't that good? So I guess Trent Dilfer or Tony Banks, Brad Johnson, and Jim McMahon are all better than Dan Marino.
I guess when St. Loius won it was all because of Warner. The other 5 probowlers on the team had nothing to do with it. The fact thaat they held the number 7 ranked offense Titans to 16 points was nothing.
I'm not defending Manning. He could have and should have played better and needs to improve his scrambling in case of emergencies, but let's be realistic. You give today's Peyton Manning the '95 Cowboys' Oline and have them play Pittsburgh and there is no way in hell the Colts would have lost. NFL is a team game and the team was outplayed. The D shut down on the first two Pit drives and the Oline shut down all day. To simply blame Manning is bullshit. He could have played better but if he was on Pit Sunday and Ben was on Indy then Manning would be playing next week and Ben would be going home. Because PITTSBURGH outplayed INDIANAPOLIS.
--- End quote ---
STOP WITH THAT ALREADY,give him the 95 cowboys o-line hahaha,this ain't fantasy football my equal. AND YOU know exactly what i mean about payton choking, and then blaming his o-line basically for the lost. qb is the leader take that responsiblity on your shoulders,this is not the first time he has done this. when jim mora went off in the infamous "playoff" rant. Payton didn't get mad that he called the team out he got mad cause he basically called "him" out. And as far as talent go i think the hillbilly is the best in the game in the poccet and he works his ass off, it's just he always finds ways to blame others,and no differ in those guys are not better then marino, but i tell you this i would rather have mcmahon or even trent differ in a big game over marino yell
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version