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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2002, 09:09:26 PM »
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2002, 09:11:26 PM »
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i know it's all opinion but i can't see how some of y'all can sit there and say nas wuz better then BIGGIE? that's a fucken joke homie. Nas is nothin compared to Biggie. Nas has such a fucken weak flow and his lyrics are not always as amazin as peeps say they are. On the other hand biggie always came correct and dropped two classics in a row where as Nas IMO dropped on classic and the rest garbage albums.


It was written and stillmatic are both classics but illmatic was the better album. Ready 2 die was biggies only classic album. Nas' lyrical ability was better than biggies easily. Nas puts a bit of meaning into his songs.
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2002, 11:50:41 PM »
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It was written and stillmatic are both classics but illmatic was the better album. Ready 2 die was biggies only classic album. Nas' lyrical ability was better than biggies easily. Nas puts a bit of meaning into his songs.


"It Was Written" was by no means a classic album... maybe above average. "Stillmatic" was denfinitely one of the best albums of 2001, but not a classic album. I believe a classic album must not contain any weak tracks. Therefore,  neither "Stillmatic" or "It Was Written" qualify for classic status... also, Nas don't come close to Biggie's flow/delivery and his storytelling skills... both Jay-Z & Biggie have better charisma than Nas, which is also an important attribute for MCs... peace.
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2002, 02:33:41 AM »
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In all honesty, I think its Wu Tang Clan.

36 chambers
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Liquid Swords
Wu Tang Forever
Ironman
Supreme Clientele
Iron Flag
Return To The 36 Chambers
Tical

^^^all of those are at least 4 mic caliber albums. Most of them are classic or near classic, and 36 Chambers and Cuban Linx are arguably two of the top 10 greatest albums ever made. Sure, they arent as good as they used to be, but they've put out so much classic material its sick, and they have set countless trends. I love Nas and Biggie to the fullest, but I think the Wu deserve it the most.


    WORD!!!

 The Wu Done Over 500 songs all together, probz over 600 (personally i got 450 on mp3 and bump all that constantly, i never get bored of that stuff)

  I think Rza get's a lot less credit then he deserves, he done more then dre could ever produce, he maybe ain't as consistant but damn he always comes out with Wu Bangers!!!

Peace
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2002, 02:42:03 AM »
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    WORD!!!

 The Wu Done Over 500 songs all together, probz over 600 (personally i got 450 on mp3 and bump all that constantly, i never get bored of that stuff)

  I think Rza get's a lot less credit then he deserves, he done more then dre could ever produce, he maybe ain't as consistant but damn he always comes out wi
th Wu Bangers!!!

Peace




who cares about how many songs...the wu could make 50,000 songs. It dont mean shit. Plus its the KING of the KINGS
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2002, 06:25:14 AM »
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It was written and stillmatic are both classics but illmatic was the better album. Ready 2 die was biggies only classic album. Nas' lyrical ability was better than biggies easily. Nas puts a bit of meaning into his songs.


man that is obsurd...to even dare say it was written and stillmatic are classics....thats ridiculous...biggie was ten times better than nas' written ass...cmon at least biggie could freestyle....how can u people swear nas is a great mc when the bastard openly says he cant freestyle...thats not a real mc...biggie was the prince of new york...krs was the king...and krs still is...he puts more meaning into his songs than nas does....he has better lyrical skills...he gets more respect than nas....plus hes been in the game many years....what is this album 10 or is it more?....and he still hasnt lost his flavor....he never followed trends...hes always rapped about street life....i dont ever remember nas claiming to be a gangster til stillmatic....he never became a bling rapper....nas became one on nastradamus....in closing....nas is a biter...a trend follower...a written mc...krs is none of that....hes a REAL EMCEE...thats why hes the king of ny
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2002, 06:42:32 AM »
of all time its biggie,  but now,  no one really has tha crown an fuck u to ever said mobb weak an put them in tha catagory wit ja fool,  memphis bleek an jada.  Mobb deep dropped 2 classics,  how tha fuck could u front on mobb deep
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2002, 06:46:40 AM »
"this goes out to those that choose to use, disrespectful views, ON THE KING OF NY, "

BIGGIE SMALLS  ;D
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2002, 08:37:28 AM »
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fuck u to ever said mobb weak an put them in tha catagory wit ja fool,  memphis bleek an jada.  Mobb deep dropped 2 classics,  how tha fuck could u front on mobb deep


Word, whoever considers Mobb Deep in the same category as Ja Rule and the like needs their head checked for real...
 

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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2002, 10:05:50 AM »
2Pac...he did cum from new york ya know
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2002, 10:09:53 AM »
back in the days it was biggie no doubt but he's dead so the king is nas
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2002, 12:25:30 PM »
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of all time its biggie,  but now,  no one really has tha crown an fuck u to ever said mobb weak an put them in tha catagory wit ja fool,  memphis bleek an jada.  Mobb deep dropped 2 classics,  how tha fuck could u front on mobb deep


i called them mobb weak and i did put them into that same category as ja fool and memphis geek....they made two classic albums?...maybe to u....not to me....prodigy thinks hes in charge....that scumbag is under nas....nas runs that whole qb clique....but by no means is nas the king of ny....ja fool runs his murda inc crew but hes not a king of ny...memphis geek...well this asshole thinks hes good....like i have said many times prior to this KRS-One....KING OF NY...cmon he has made many more classics than nas mobb weak and gayz put together....he is one  of the rappers that they all worship....
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2002, 12:37:04 PM »
um,  ja fool an bleek aint even in tha same league as mobb deep,  an i never said mobb deep was better than krs-one,  did i,  no.  When its all said an done,  mobb deep will go down as one of tha best duo's 2 ever come out of the east.  an dont be puttin words in mouth sayin i said mobb deep were tha best duo of all time cuz i said they were one of tha best.  an tha infamous is a definite classic i recommend u all go listen to it again.  an secondly,  no1,  an i mean no1 in NY even considers ja fool an bleak to be tha king of NY,  ight get your facts right.  
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2002, 12:41:12 PM »
I knew this would turn into a Nas vs. Biggie thread........Im gonna break it down for yall.

Biggie and Nas are both INCREDIBLE MC's, and to say one shits all over the other is ABSURD. Biggie did things Nas couldnt, and vice versa. As far PURE lyricism goes, Nas is superior, hands down. Why?? Illmatic. Illmatic MADE all the criteria and set standards on what dope lyricism is. Ready To Die is a great lyrical album, but it was clearly influenced from Illmatic, and back in 94', if you told anyone Ready To Die was better than Illmatic you woulda been SMACKED HARD. You could make that arguement NOW, but back then, everyone knew Illmatic was the better album. So yea, Nas set standards on how lyricism should be. Biggie wasnt getting any comparisons to Rakim, while Nas was. That says it all right there. Despite that, when it came to flow, Biggie was certainly nicer than Nas was. Biggie has all types of different flows, while Nas just had one basic flow [though he proved he can get more diverse with his flow in One Mic]. But Nas cant touch the flow Biggie had in "Gimme The Loot"............Storytelling, its VERY close. I cant call it, so Ill say they're equal in that department. Biggie however, did have ONE large advantage over Nas: He had the ability to make a dope commercial track, while all of Nas's commercial songs have been mediocre. As far as classic albums go, each of them had two. Biggie: Ready To Die and Life After Death. Nas: Illmatic and Stillmatic [It Was Written is a 4 micer, but not classic]. So, ill call it even............
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Re: Who's The King Of New York
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2002, 02:40:39 PM »
oh yea to tha person that said nas can freestyle,  he said one time 4 your mind was a freestyle an it says it right there in tha 150th issue of tha source an i also heard other nas freestyles 2,  so whoever said that was wrong or either misunderstood
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