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Just Another Sunny day in California:

--- Quote from: Juronimo is Public Enemy #1 on January 24, 2006, 11:27:19 AM ---Is anyone else concerned about the long term effects of this game?

If Kobe dominates the ball so much, how can our other players develop their games, specifically Odom and Kwame? I don't like the trend of our players standing around watching Kobe shoot over a double team. Yeah, lately he's hit some of those shots, but Kobe's teammates defer to Kobe way too much. This needs to change if the Lakers are to have any long term success.

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exactly!

Now_Im_Not_Banned:

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What was it?

Now_Im_Not_Banned:
Kobe Bryant: 28-46
Rest of Lakers: 14-42



What does that tell you? Kobe's offense was more potent that game, extremely more potent, so he was the primary offense, and being that, he SLAUGHTERED the Raptors. It's not like Odom hasn't had a bunch of huge games this season...I've seen a lot of good things about Kwame and Mihm this past month as well...And how can we forget some of those great games Smush won for us? Shit, even Cook, Sasha, and George came big in a few games. Come on Laker fans, lets not let Kobe's greatness blind us and make us think everyone around him is weak and doesn't get a chance to show what they've got...Give Phil Jackson's plan a chance, I believe this team will do just fine...PeACe

Juronimo:

--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on January 24, 2006, 03:10:21 PM ---Kobe Bryant: 28-46
Rest of Lakers: 14-42



What does that tell you? Kobe's offense was more potent that game, extremely more potent, so he was the primary offense, and being that, he SLAUGHTERED the Raptors. It's not like Odom hasn't had a bunch of huge games this season...I've seen a lot of good things about Kwame and Mihm this past month as well...And how can we forget some of those great games Smush won for us? Shit, even Cook, Sasha, and George came big in a few games. Come on Laker fans, lets not let Kobe's greatness blind us and make us think everyone around him is weak and doesn't get a chance to show what they've got...Give Phil Jackson's plan a chance, I believe this team will do just fine...PeACe

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That's the thing though. Last Sunday, he was on, and made everything he threw up. Remember the stretch of games when he was going 12/36 and the Lakers were losing? We can't count on Kobe scoring 50 plus every game.

The concern I have is that the guys defer to Kobe way too much. I remember a play where kobe was on the wing on the right hand side, Lamar had the ball at the top of the key and he tried to force a pass to Kobe while he was being double-teamed without the ball. Turnover. Lamar should have just taken a couple of steps in and shot a 15 footer or passed it inside to a big man. Those of the things I'm talking about. Also, we've all seen Kobe shoot that fadeaway when he's drifting out of bounds with defenders all over him. Why isn't anyone moving without the ball and making a cut to the basket? These type of things happen way too often.

Kobe is doing what he needs to do to win games and that's fine, but the other guys need to step up and not depend on Kobe to bail them out. Also, Kobe needs to use his teammates more, even if they screw up. Besides success comes after initial failure. The last thing I want to see is Kobe getting hurt by overextending himself. He needs to rely on his teammates and his teammates need to step up in order for the Lakers to have any long term success.

Now_Im_Not_Banned:

--- Quote from: Juronimo is Public Enemy #1 on January 24, 2006, 03:48:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on January 24, 2006, 03:10:21 PM ---Kobe Bryant: 28-46
Rest of Lakers: 14-42



What does that tell you? Kobe's offense was more potent that game, extremely more potent, so he was the primary offense, and being that, he SLAUGHTERED the Raptors. It's not like Odom hasn't had a bunch of huge games this season...I've seen a lot of good things about Kwame and Mihm this past month as well...And how can we forget some of those great games Smush won for us? Shit, even Cook, Sasha, and George came big in a few games. Come on Laker fans, lets not let Kobe's greatness blind us and make us think everyone around him is weak and doesn't get a chance to show what they've got...Give Phil Jackson's plan a chance, I believe this team will do just fine...PeACe

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That's the thing though. Last Sunday, he was on, and made everything he threw up. Remember the stretch of games when he was going 12/36 and the Lakers were losing? We can't count on Kobe scoring 50 plus every game.

The concern I have is that the guys defer to Kobe way too much. I remember a play where kobe was on the wing on the right hand side, Lamar had the ball at the top of the key and he tried to force a pass to Kobe while he was being double-teamed without the ball. Turnover. Lamar should have just taken a couple of steps in and shot a 15 footer or passed it inside to a big man. Those of the things I'm talking about. Also, we've all seen Kobe shoot that fadeaway when he's drifting out of bounds with defenders all over him. Why isn't anyone moving without the ball and making a cut to the basket? These type of things happen way too often.

Kobe is doing what he needs to do to win games and that's fine, but the other guys need to step up and not depend on Kobe to bail them out. Also, Kobe needs to use his teammates more, even if they screw up. Besides success comes after initial failure. The last thing I want to see is Kobe getting hurt by overextending himself. He needs to rely on his teammates and his teammates need to step up in order for the Lakers to have any long term success.

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The point is that sometimes, you're right, the rest of the team is not flowing, but a lot of times this season, I've seen all the players flow together and it looked GREAT. I'm just saying that come playoff times, I think they'll have it down well enough to perform at a high level together EVERY night...Kobe will average less points in the playoffs, I bet you anything...PeACe

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