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Don Jacob:
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--- Quote from: ACB on January 26, 2006, 06:39:47 AM ---I have to disagree with Pippen. First of all he probably didn't even see the game. I did. Kobe scored let's say 90% of his FG's from the long range. He made jumpers, he didn't score 81 points with dunks or easy lay-ups! So a phisical defence couldn't have stopped him from making those jumpshots. With a phisical defence you can stop big men, you can stop drives to the basket. Not jumpers. Jordan was maybe more impressive to him cause he made most of his points (in the early years of his career) going inside, taking hard fouls, converting them into 3-points actions, getting doubled, hand-checked, etc.. But Kobe simply made jumpshots. How can you stop him? Kobe broke a franchise record in that game, 62 (SIXTY-TWO) straight free throws made. How can you stop it? 62. He made 7 3-pointers. Plus he made tons of jumpshots.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=100986.0
That's the proof.
P.S. What about zone defence? Zone defence, if applied well, is way more damaging for opponent's phisical game than a phisical defence. Just remember how Italy SONNED the U.S. National Team the last 2 times they met each others.
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Pippen doesn't like Kobe...I think he's bitter at the Jordan comparisons or something. He made a few negetive comments about Kobe this season...Now he wrote out a whole essay...LMAO. He musta' been butt-hurt that Kobe broke the record... :-\
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pippen has never liked kobe, when kobe and jordan were going head up back in the day pippen was trash talkin kobe all the time (shaq almost fought pipp because of this,member?) then fast forward to when pippen was on the blazers and kobe had that rib injury... everytime pipp would d up on kobe he'd always attack his ribs and hack at his shoulder then later on in the series he'd try to discredit kobe scoring on him and even tried instigating another fight ( and i think he got a flagrant on kobe, not sure on that though)
anything pippen says about kobe should be ignored because it's all bias
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: hisairness on January 26, 2006, 09:37:18 AM ---What if the rules had been changed about hand-checking when Jordan was around...He already killed defenders when they could hold and push him. Imagine what he would've done if they hadn't been able to.
You guys know that I don't like Kobe, but what he did was impressive. 81 points is 81 points no matter how you look at it. If he had shot below 50% then yeah, he was being a ballhog but I believe he shot 61% from the field. That's a damn good percentage from the field considering how many jump shots he took. However, you could look at it as the Raptors absolutely suck whereas if somebody that could play defense was guarding Kobe...81 would've never happened.
Just look at it like this, Lakers fans can have 81...regular season accomplishments don't mean a goddamned thing if you aren't playing in May and June.
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Jordan's game, especially in his younger years, was to break down defenders and penetrate into the paint. Nowadays, that would be more of a task for him with the zone defense rules, because a player can be defending the lane. Kobe is one of the most battered players in the league, EVERY time he takes it in he gets pounded, and only half of those fouls are actually called...Now, Kobe has a REALLY refined jumper. He can rise over 3 players and hit a 3 over all of them in his face with ease. Not many players can do that, in fact, I don't think anyone has ever got that down as well as Kobe...I just believe Pippen was saddened when he saw that Kobe broke Jordans record, he probably was a little disappointed...He ran home and wrote an article to try and discredit Kobe's 81 as much as he could...What Kobe did left a bitter taste in Pippens mouth, and the only way to wash that away is with hatred... :-X
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Don Jacob on January 26, 2006, 10:08:36 AM ---for whoever said " kobe scoring 81 points is damaging to the developing of the other players on the team"
did you see the game? did you even watch the first half....kobe was dishing it to parker , setting up nice 3's for him, setting up mihm, brown , and odom for EASY lay up and dunks, kobe even sat out a good part of the second quarter where the other players on the lakers were taking shots with like 19 seconds left on the shot clock......simply put everyone else on the team was OFF straight up. the fact that kobe scored 81 points was amazing , but what people fail to relise that is more amazing is that Kobe BY HIMSELF stopped a whole other team, kobe outscored the whole rapters team , because afterall no one else on the lakers was going to contribute, AND he D'd up the rapters, no one on the raps were getting nice shots the whole second half until it was like almost a 20 point game and players were being taken out. Kobe is getting TOO much hate for not being a team player, when the reality is he's a becoming a really good team player.....Tmac is loved and is a HORRID team player, but kobe is hated and is pretty good.... seriously some of you people need to watch your Fox Sports West and Kcal 9
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Kobe is one of the best team players in the league...His guidance, to me at least, is amazing. His vocal leadership, his will to have the other players perform, it's all great...The hatred comes from people who don't watch Laker games and don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Their only source for the Lakers is BSPN. Then they come in here and make baseless arguments about how Kobe is a ball-hog and how Kobe is not a leader...LOL. I'm sure you know exactly what I mean...PeACe
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Don Jacob on January 26, 2006, 10:12:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on January 26, 2006, 10:07:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: ACB on January 26, 2006, 06:39:47 AM ---I have to disagree with Pippen. First of all he probably didn't even see the game. I did. Kobe scored let's say 90% of his FG's from the long range. He made jumpers, he didn't score 81 points with dunks or easy lay-ups! So a phisical defence couldn't have stopped him from making those jumpshots. With a phisical defence you can stop big men, you can stop drives to the basket. Not jumpers. Jordan was maybe more impressive to him cause he made most of his points (in the early years of his career) going inside, taking hard fouls, converting them into 3-points actions, getting doubled, hand-checked, etc.. But Kobe simply made jumpshots. How can you stop him? Kobe broke a franchise record in that game, 62 (SIXTY-TWO) straight free throws made. How can you stop it? 62. He made 7 3-pointers. Plus he made tons of jumpshots.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=100986.0
That's the proof.
P.S. What about zone defence? Zone defence, if applied well, is way more damaging for opponent's phisical game than a phisical defence. Just remember how Italy SONNED the U.S. National Team the last 2 times they met each others.
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Pippen doesn't like Kobe...I think he's bitter at the Jordan comparisons or something. He made a few negetive comments about Kobe this season...Now he wrote out a whole essay...LMAO. He musta' been butt-hurt that Kobe broke the record... :-\
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pippen has never liked kobe, when kobe and jordan were going head up back in the day pippen was trash talkin kobe all the time (shaq almost fought pipp because of this,member?) then fast forward to when pippen was on the blazers and kobe had that rib injury... everytime pipp would d up on kobe he'd always attack his ribs and hack at his shoulder then later on in the series he'd try to discredit kobe scoring on him and even tried instigating another fight ( and i think he got a flagrant on kobe, not sure on that though)
anything pippen says about kobe should be ignored because it's all bias
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I'm glad someone knows what's up...Jake, hows the kid?
acbaylove:
It's kinda sad to me cause i've always thought Pippen was a smart player who actually knew how to defend. But what he said about Kobe's 81 points performance is 100% hate. He have no points at all. He blamed the new rules, but fuck it. Like i said zonal defence is way more deadly that phisical defence for a guard. Toronto defended man-to-man, then they doubled Kobe, then they used big guys against him trying to contest his jumpshots, they even tried zonal defence. But nothing worked. You gotta give Kobe credits for that performance. If you want to blame the new (?) rules, do it in another article. Shit, that's horrible to me. Pippen used to be like a hero for me, cause he was a true defender, and i love defenders. But his comments was straight bullshit. He lost all his credits to me. What's the next step? To diss Tex Winter cause he placed Kobe in his All-Winter Team instead of Jordan? To diss Phil cause he said that that performance was something Jordan has never done in his career in a single match? To diss Buss cause he chosed Bryant over Shaq?
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