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E. J. Rizo:
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--- Quote from: ACB on January 24, 2006, 06:05:04 AM ---Finally i’ve watched the game. Well, it was been the most incredible performance i’ve ever seen by an NBA player. Period. It’s not only the fact he scored 81 points, it’s how he scored them. He had a pretty good game in the first half, but still the Lakers were struggling and loosing. At home. Once again. Against a supposed-to-be-wack team. So he took the team over his shoulders in the second half, and he started to make the shots his teammates werent making. He scored 27 and 28 points in 2 quarters, litterally winning the game alone and outscoring the Raptors by himself. Impressive performance, and impressive “message” sent to the rest of the League. Way better than the one he sent by elbowing Miller (remember the post-game press conference?). That’s the Kobe i admire, and that’s the player who can get his first MVP throphy.
About the Jordan vs Bryant thing.. Don't get me wrong: i admire Michael Jordan, and i think he's truly a living legend, probably the 2nd best NBA player ever. But i really don't get it when you try to make it looks like if he was unselfish, or perfect. Jordan has led the NBA in field goals attemped for 10 seasons, a record. He has a career average of 22.8 field goals attemps per game against Kobe's 17.8 (it's 25.1 in the Playoff). In the 1987-88 season, he made 2279 shots: only Chamberlain in NBA history has shot more than him in a season. He shot 49 times against Orlando in 1992 (he was almost 30, so pretty mature both phisically and menthally). What i mean is that i understand that you guys remember Jordan for the last 3 season, where he menthally dominated the game, but please don't make it looks like he was a robot, or an UFO. He was a scorer. And i'm sure he dreamed about an 81-points game too. So many times.
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So true...
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i can bet that if shaq wasnt there for his whole career besides these past two seasons that kobes FG attempts would be WAY HIGHER!... there just isnt a comparison they are both there own players.... and so far jordan is the better player kobe still in the league so everyone has to wait til its all said and done.... and kobe needs to earn those championships as the leader of the team before you can start comparing...... get some league MVP's and Finals MVP's and a few more things before it can even be considered... two different players even tho they got similar playing styles
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
What would the media do if LeBron scored 81?
...I doubt he would get these mixed reviews. Here is what I think would happen if James had scored 81 points instead of Bryant.
- NBA regualr season officially shortened from 82 games to 81
- ESPN changes name to LBJN
- All NBA teams forced to hang a #23 James jersey in their rafters....even the Bulls
- Tim Legler in front of a national TV audience on NBA Fastbreak takes out his LeBron James blowup doll and makes love to it.
- LeBron changes the tatoo on his back to The Chosen Eighty-One
- David Stern starts referring to himself in the 3rd person as "King David"
- ESPN starts a whole new channell, the ocho uno, in which cameras follow around LeBron 24 hours a day
taken form Lakersground.net
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: E. J. Rizo on January 24, 2006, 10:06:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on January 24, 2006, 09:57:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: ACB on January 24, 2006, 06:05:04 AM ---Finally i’ve watched the game. Well, it was been the most incredible performance i’ve ever seen by an NBA player. Period. It’s not only the fact he scored 81 points, it’s how he scored them. He had a pretty good game in the first half, but still the Lakers were struggling and loosing. At home. Once again. Against a supposed-to-be-wack team. So he took the team over his shoulders in the second half, and he started to make the shots his teammates werent making. He scored 27 and 28 points in 2 quarters, litterally winning the game alone and outscoring the Raptors by himself. Impressive performance, and impressive “message” sent to the rest of the League. Way better than the one he sent by elbowing Miller (remember the post-game press conference?). That’s the Kobe i admire, and that’s the player who can get his first MVP throphy.
About the Jordan vs Bryant thing.. Don't get me wrong: i admire Michael Jordan, and i think he's truly a living legend, probably the 2nd best NBA player ever. But i really don't get it when you try to make it looks like if he was unselfish, or perfect. Jordan has led the NBA in field goals attemped for 10 seasons, a record. He has a career average of 22.8 field goals attemps per game against Kobe's 17.8 (it's 25.1 in the Playoff). In the 1987-88 season, he made 2279 shots: only Chamberlain in NBA history has shot more than him in a season. He shot 49 times against Orlando in 1992 (he was almost 30, so pretty mature both phisically and menthally). What i mean is that i understand that you guys remember Jordan for the last 3 season, where he menthally dominated the game, but please don't make it looks like he was a robot, or an UFO. He was a scorer. And i'm sure he dreamed about an 81-points game too. So many times.
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So true...
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i can bet that if shaq wasnt there for his whole career besides these past two seasons that kobes FG attempts would be WAY HIGHER!... there just isnt a comparison they are both there own players.... and so far jordan is the better player kobe still in the league so everyone has to wait til its all said and done.... and kobe needs to earn those championships as the leader of the team before you can start comparing...... get some league MVP's and Finals MVP's and a few more things before it can even be considered... two different players even tho they got similar playing styles
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I bet I bet I bet...You were the one who made that dumbass comment that Kobe wasn't up there on Larry Bird's level. You're too much of a Laker fan to be a Jordan dick-rider, and I wouldn't wanna say it the other way around. Bottom line is, Kobe is the closest thing we've seen to Jordan, and if he doesn't surpass Jordan by the time it's all said and done, I'd honestly be surprised...It seems to me like you don't want him surpassing Jordan or something, or as if you think it'd be blasphemy to mention them in the same sentence...As a Laker fan, you should hope that Kobe can one day exceed Jordan's level of play, and let me tell you something, he's not that far away...
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
Kobe in the same breath as Michael? Maybe it's time
By John Celestand
Jan. 17, 2005
OK, this is not really an article. Let’s just think of this as a
couple of fans talking -- just being simply amazed at what
occurred the other night. I woke up groggy-eyed from my
sleep, only to turn on SportsCenter like I do every morning.
I was expecting simply to check out a couple of highlights
about the NFL playoffs, yet I heard the unthinkable.
“Tracy McGrady scored 43 points last night, (but ) big deal,"
said ESPN's Stuart Scott. "It was about half of what Kobe
scored.”
What?! It couldn’t be. I must have heard wrong. That would
mean Kobe Bryant scored about 80 points! So I called my
friend and former high school teammate Delvon McMillan,
awaking him from his sleep.
“Del, I know I didn’t just hear this. I know I ...“
He interjected. “Kobe Bryant had 81 points!” he insisted.
“And he shot better than 50 percent from the field.”
His statement stopped me in my tracks. It had to sink in for
a second. Some things have a delayed reaction. You just
don’t compute them as quickly as others. The same thing happened to me in 2000 when Vince Carter put his elbow in the rim in the dunk contest. I remember watching it with a bunch of my friends. I remember after the dunk, the room being quiet. Nobody understood what happened for about three or four seconds. Then it sunk in. His elbow was in the rim. That’s how high he was. Kobe scored 81.That’s how good he is.
I was somewhat ashamed for thinking what I was thinking. I almost didn’t say it. No real basketball person could ever say this, would dare say this. I thought about how my friend Delvon would view me after the ludicrous statement I was about to make. I mean, he played college basketball, too -- so it wasn’t as if I was talking to some slouch off the street.
But I conjured up the nerve and I did it.
”Do you think he is a better scorer than Jordan?” I asked
I had done it. I asked the stupidest question of all time. Oh my goodness, he would think I was an idiot. As soon as I asked it, I wanted to take it back. All of my basketball validity was now lost.
“I would have to say yes,” Delvon responded. “Kobe’s got the ultimate skills.”
He had done it. He said it. Now there were two men who would be hauled off to the funny farm if anybody found out about this. We would have to keep this a secret. Nobody could know what we had confided in each other. Maybe Jordan was no longer the greatest scorer ever.
I tried to make it sound better.
“Maybe Jordan is the best clutch scorer ever; Kobe is the best overall scorer,”
I reasoned.
“Kobe is clutch too," Delvon said. "He’s hit big shots in big-time games in the playoffs, regular season, and the Finals.
“He scored 81 -- do you get it?”
I tried to reevaluate what were saying. I hope that Mike never found out about this. We were betraying him. But this was the present. Kobe was the present, and the present is always so much clearer.
Of course, Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points. The difference, is that Wilt was so much more physically gifted than his opponents. He was so huge, so strong, so much more athletic than the helpless defenders that tried to guard him. Even Bill Russell, the greatest defensive center of all time, looked like a child compared to Chamberlain.
Kobe is a guard, many of his shots coming from 15 feet and out. The players guarding Kobe are his same size and strength. Some of the players may be even stronger and more athletic. It doesn’t matter. They can’t stop him. He scored 81 points.
“I know it’s hard to fathom that maybe Kobe is going to be better than Mike," Delvon said. “But he had 81 points. I turned on the TV on a day after the NFC and AFC championship games and Kobe’s the lead story. That’s unreal.”
Why I am I so surprised? I witnessed his greatness firsthand. I remember in practice always wanting to take on the challenge of guarding him. I was a competitor. I wanted to get better. Even if he torched me, it was for my own good.
But there were many days when I would leave doubting myself -- because I just couldn’t stop him. No one had ever left me so bewildered. There was nothing I could do. If I beat Kobe to the spot, he shot over me. If I got too close, he drove past me. If I backed off too far, he shot the jumper. If none of that worked for him, he posted me up.
Nobody could stop him and I was no different. I should have saved those days of anguish and just realized that I wasn’t that bad -- that he was just that good.
I think Delvon summed it up best.
“There’s nothing you can do," he said. "There’s nothing anybody can do. He’s the Man. He only stops scoring when he feels like it.”
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
Quotes from around the league...
"I'm not in that kind of shape to score that much. When I had 56 (in high school), my shoulder was so tired I had to ice that thing down. That takes so much energy to score those kinds of points because, think about it, you're not making every single shot. There are lots of trips you miss shots and still got to play D. No way I could do that."
-- Detroit's Chauncey Billups
"It's beyond words. For a two-guard to do that in this era when defenses can be geared around one player, it's out of this world. . . . I don't feel so bad about the 45 he got on us now."
-- Pacers coach Rick Carlisle
"I don't think I could score that many in a video game."
-- Houston's Tracy McGrady
"(Shaquille O'Neal) told us to get him 50 shots (in the next game)."
-- Miami's Antoine Walker
"He's just one of those guys I have a lot of respect for. He's strong-willed and he believes in himself to the core."
-- Minnesota's Wally Szczerbiak
"Can anyone get 100? If you can get 81, absolutely. He just needs to take 10 more shots."
-- Miami coach Pat Riley
"The No. 1 thing he said after the game which impressed me was not that he scored 81 but that's what he thought he needed to do in order for his team to get the win."
-- Detroit coach Flip Saunders
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