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Mark Cuban ethers Phil Jackson
TeeRaySix9Teen:
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--- Quote from: 7 on February 08, 2006, 04:29:57 PM ---Mavs >> Lakers
Phil: Got lucky with his teams.. barely makes the playoffs with a team that doesn't involve the best SG or the best C ever and a great sidekick each
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How many rings did Jordan & Pippen have without Phil? How about Kobe & Shaq?
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lol how many rings does Phil have without Jordan/Pippen? Kobe/Shaq?
What did Red Aurbach say about Phil? "He picks his spots"
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Like Red Aurbach is one to talk, he had Russel & Havlichek. The Celtics won with Russel as a player/coach.
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ok..so according to your quote. Phil was reason the Bulls and Lakers 3peated? Not Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe? lol Phil has always been overrated to me. He's a good coach and all, but not nearly as good as his win percentage says. This year he FINALLY has a team that isnt expected to at least compete for a title. It isnt like he's Larry Brown who has gone to numerous teams that were in terrible shape when he got there.
BizzyR.I.P.:
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:27:25 PM ---
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--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:14:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 04:31:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7 on February 08, 2006, 04:29:57 PM ---Mavs >> Lakers
Phil: Got lucky with his teams.. barely makes the playoffs with a team that doesn't involve the best SG or the best C ever and a great sidekick each
--- End quote ---
How many rings did Jordan & Pippen have without Phil? How about Kobe & Shaq?
--- End quote ---
lol how many rings does Phil have without Jordan/Pippen? Kobe/Shaq?
What did Red Aurbach say about Phil? "He picks his spots"
as for the Cuban quote. remember, Cuban is responding to Phil's accusations that the referees favor the Mavs when they go t Dallas cus theyre intimidated by Cuban. Because he has people review the tapes of the games and sends them into the league if there are mistakes. So Phil said that the Mavs have an unfair advantage. Cuban sayin he "owns Phil" is him saying that Phil thinks about him so much, that he must own him. Im not a big Cuban fan, but honestly i dont see anything wrong with him having ex-referees exam tapes of the games and send them to the league offices when there are big mistakes made. The only problem is that the other owners dont do the same. Ive always hated the idea that the refs are SO untouchable. They SHOULD be held more accountable when they fuck up.
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Bottom line, the officiating last night in Dallas more than proved Phil Jackson's point...Mark Cuban simply got extra bitter about it.
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i didnt watch the game, so i dunno about last nights game. but the thing im sayin is, if more owners or GM's or whatever stood up the officiating when its bad (as in, sending in official complaints and video tape to the league office), then no one would have any type of advantage (if Cuban really does have one). Also, the refs WOULD be ontop of their game a little more with the added pressure to perform. believe me man, im not defending Cuban. I dont hate the guy, but i dont like him either. he's kind of a fuckin wierdo to me anyways. i was just respondin to the dood who thought this was all Cuban goin after Phil...when really it was Phil complaining about Cuban.
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They called 2 flagarnt fouls in the first couple of minutes that you could tell weren't flagarnt easily. Then they kept on Ting up Lakers. I've seen Kobe take harder fouls that weren't even called fouls let alone a flagarnt.
BizzyR.I.P.:
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:30:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 10:24:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:14:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 04:31:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7 on February 08, 2006, 04:29:57 PM ---Mavs >> Lakers
Phil: Got lucky with his teams.. barely makes the playoffs with a team that doesn't involve the best SG or the best C ever and a great sidekick each
--- End quote ---
How many rings did Jordan & Pippen have without Phil? How about Kobe & Shaq?
--- End quote ---
lol how many rings does Phil have without Jordan/Pippen? Kobe/Shaq?
What did Red Aurbach say about Phil? "He picks his spots"
--- End quote ---
Like Red Aurbach is one to talk, he had Russel & Havlichek. The Celtics won with Russel as a player/coach.
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ok..so according to your quote. Phil was reason the Bulls and Lakers 3peated? Not Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe? lol Phil has always been overrated to me. He's a good coach and all, but not nearly as good as his win percentage says. This year he FINALLY has a team that isnt expected to at least compete for a title. It isnt like he's Larry Brown who has gone to numerous teams that were in terrible shape when he got there.
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I'm not saying he's not the reason behind, but he was a major catalyst. The fact of the matter is both Pippen & Joran and Kobe & Shaq played a couple of years together and didn't do anything but make it to the playoffs and they both won when he got there.
TeeRaySix9Teen:
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 10:31:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:27:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on February 08, 2006, 10:23:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:14:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 04:31:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7 on February 08, 2006, 04:29:57 PM ---Mavs >> Lakers
Phil: Got lucky with his teams.. barely makes the playoffs with a team that doesn't involve the best SG or the best C ever and a great sidekick each
--- End quote ---
How many rings did Jordan & Pippen have without Phil? How about Kobe & Shaq?
--- End quote ---
lol how many rings does Phil have without Jordan/Pippen? Kobe/Shaq?
What did Red Aurbach say about Phil? "He picks his spots"
as for the Cuban quote. remember, Cuban is responding to Phil's accusations that the referees favor the Mavs when they go t Dallas cus theyre intimidated by Cuban. Because he has people review the tapes of the games and sends them into the league if there are mistakes. So Phil said that the Mavs have an unfair advantage. Cuban sayin he "owns Phil" is him saying that Phil thinks about him so much, that he must own him. Im not a big Cuban fan, but honestly i dont see anything wrong with him having ex-referees exam tapes of the games and send them to the league offices when there are big mistakes made. The only problem is that the other owners dont do the same. Ive always hated the idea that the refs are SO untouchable. They SHOULD be held more accountable when they fuck up.
--- End quote ---
Bottom line, the officiating last night in Dallas more than proved Phil Jackson's point...Mark Cuban simply got extra bitter about it.
--- End quote ---
i didnt watch the game, so i dunno about last nights game. but the thing im sayin is, if more owners or GM's or whatever stood up the officiating when its bad (as in, sending in official complaints and video tape to the league office), then no one would have any type of advantage (if Cuban really does have one). Also, the refs WOULD be ontop of their game a little more with the added pressure to perform. believe me man, im not defending Cuban. I dont hate the guy, but i dont like him either. he's kind of a fuckin wierdo to me anyways. i was just respondin to the dood who thought this was all Cuban goin after Phil...when really it was Phil complaining about Cuban.
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They called 2 flagarnt fouls in the first couple of minutes that you could tell weren't flagarnt easily. Then they kept on Ting up Lakers. I've seen Kobe take harder fouls that weren't even called fouls let alone a flagarnt.
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yeah i dunno. maybe it was officialed badly. who knows. Phil has been in the league how long now tho? To assume its ALL because of Cuban is a little paranoid tho. I mean, maybe it is i dunno. None of us do. Phil wouldnt even know. But i guarentee you Phil has been on the positive side of PLENTY of officiated games so he should suck it up. He's had Jordan who would draw a foul on a defender before the game started. And Kobe who gets his fair share off ticky tack calls in his favor every game. he's had Fish who would flop and get a call if u breathed on him. Shit, he even had the Mailman, who flopped all game even when a 5'10", 175 pound point guard ran into him.
TeeRaySix9Teen:
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 10:34:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:30:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 10:24:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:14:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: BombFirst on February 08, 2006, 04:31:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7 on February 08, 2006, 04:29:57 PM ---Mavs >> Lakers
Phil: Got lucky with his teams.. barely makes the playoffs with a team that doesn't involve the best SG or the best C ever and a great sidekick each
--- End quote ---
How many rings did Jordan & Pippen have without Phil? How about Kobe & Shaq?
--- End quote ---
lol how many rings does Phil have without Jordan/Pippen? Kobe/Shaq?
What did Red Aurbach say about Phil? "He picks his spots"
--- End quote ---
Like Red Aurbach is one to talk, he had Russel & Havlichek. The Celtics won with Russel as a player/coach.
--- End quote ---
ok..so according to your quote. Phil was reason the Bulls and Lakers 3peated? Not Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe? lol Phil has always been overrated to me. He's a good coach and all, but not nearly as good as his win percentage says. This year he FINALLY has a team that isnt expected to at least compete for a title. It isnt like he's Larry Brown who has gone to numerous teams that were in terrible shape when he got there.
--- End quote ---
I'm not saying he's not the reason behind, but he was a major catalyst. The fact of the matter is both Pippen & Joran and Kobe & Shaq played a couple of years together and didn't do anything but make it to the playoffs and they both won when he got there.
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that is a fact. but when he doesnt win a championship this year all that really goes out the window. your argument is that those guys never won a championship with Phil. This year, Phil wont win a championship without them. he has Kobe sure, but he doesnt have some great team like he's had. coaching is great, and coaches are important. but when it comes down to it, coaches dont win championships...players do.
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