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Mark Cuban ethers Phil Jackson
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
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--- Quote from: 7 on February 08, 2006, 04:29:57 PM ---Mavs >> Lakers
Phil: Got lucky with his teams.. barely makes the playoffs with a team that doesn't involve the best SG or the best C ever and a great sidekick each
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How many rings did Jordan & Pippen have without Phil? How about Kobe & Shaq?
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lol how many rings does Phil have without Jordan/Pippen? Kobe/Shaq?
What did Red Aurbach say about Phil? "He picks his spots"
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Like Red Aurbach is one to talk, he had Russel & Havlichek. The Celtics won with Russel as a player/coach.
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ok..so according to your quote. Phil was reason the Bulls and Lakers 3peated? Not Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe? lol Phil has always been overrated to me. He's a good coach and all, but not nearly as good as his win percentage says. This year he FINALLY has a team that isnt expected to at least compete for a title. It isnt like he's Larry Brown who has gone to numerous teams that were in terrible shape when he got there.
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Phil Jackson is an excellent coach, one of the greatest if not the greatest...There's nothing more to it. Look at the Lakers last year with Frank Hamblen as the head coach as opposed to this year with Phil...Red was making those comments because he's jealous that people look at Phil as the greatest coach and not him...It's pretty much bullshit, if you take into account the fact that the teams he's lead to domination weren't exactly dominating before he took over... :-\
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 08, 2006, 10:37:31 PM --- And Kobe who gets his fair share off ticky tack calls in his favor every game. he's had Fish who would flop and get a call if u breathed on him. Shit, he even had the Mailman, who flopped all game even when a 5'10", 175 pound point guard ran into him.
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OMG. Man, are you fuckin' nuts? Kobe gets pounded almost every single time he takes it in...Only about 25% of those poundings actually get called. Why do you think Kobe has a league leading 11 techs? And you obviously don't know shit about basketball if you don't know what gaining position for the charge is. Derek Fisher was an expert at this, getting positioned does not equal a flop. Now Manu Ginobli, that's a whole different story...PeACe
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: wcsoldier on February 09, 2006, 10:05:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 09, 2006, 09:46:37 AM ---
. like i said, if the Lakers win the championship this year. then i was wrong. if not, then im right.
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I wouldn't go as far as banning, but yes, that WAS an extremely dumb comment. LOL. So Phil has to win a championship with every team he coaches to prove he's great? That would prove he was God, not great...I don't see where your logic comes in. If Jackson leads this team to the playoffs, he's obviously excelled from what we had last year...PeACe
AZ§o§a:
CUBAN IS GOLDEN!
TeeRaySix9Teen:
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--- Quote from: 7 on February 08, 2006, 04:29:57 PM ---Mavs >> Lakers
Phil: Got lucky with his teams.. barely makes the playoffs with a team that doesn't involve the best SG or the best C ever and a great sidekick each
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How many rings did Jordan & Pippen have without Phil? How about Kobe & Shaq?
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lol how many rings does Phil have without Jordan/Pippen? Kobe/Shaq?
What did Red Aurbach say about Phil? "He picks his spots"
as for the Cuban quote. remember, Cuban is responding to Phil's accusations that the referees favor the Mavs when they go t Dallas cus theyre intimidated by Cuban. Because he has people review the tapes of the games and sends them into the league if there are mistakes. So Phil said that the Mavs have an unfair advantage. Cuban sayin he "owns Phil" is him saying that Phil thinks about him so much, that he must own him. Im not a big Cuban fan, but honestly i dont see anything wrong with him having ex-referees exam tapes of the games and send them to the league offices when there are big mistakes made. The only problem is that the other owners dont do the same. Ive always hated the idea that the refs are SO untouchable. They SHOULD be held more accountable when they fuck up.
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Bottom line, the officiating last night in Dallas more than proved Phil Jackson's point...Mark Cuban simply got extra bitter about it.
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i didnt watch the game, so i dunno about last nights game. but the thing im sayin is, if more owners or GM's or whatever stood up the officiating when its bad (as in, sending in official complaints and video tape to the league office), then no one would have any type of advantage (if Cuban really does have one). Also, the refs WOULD be ontop of their game a little more with the added pressure to perform. believe me man, im not defending Cuban. I dont hate the guy, but i dont like him either. he's kind of a fuckin wierdo to me anyways. i was just respondin to the dood who thought this was all Cuban goin after Phil...when really it was Phil complaining about Cuban.
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Yea, complaints should be made and it should strengthen officiating, but it shouldn't give one owners team the advantage due to the fact that no one else but him complains. Reffing should be fair regardless, there's no excuse. Whether Jackson chooses to interrogate the refs or not should not have an affect on the fairness of the refs...
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i agree. but that means (to me) that if its allowed to send complaints to the league office, other teams should do it as well.
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