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Denmark editor of cartoons is fired because he considered posting Jewish cartoon
Don Seer:
--- Quote from: Fallujah Tech on February 11, 2006, 10:12:38 AM ---lol@ non muslims for the last 4 years talkin about Islam and the middle east on this board
and im the bad guy for tellin em to fukk off?
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lol @ u tell us to fuck off for talking about the middle east when you're 1000s of miles from ANY islamic state.
coola:
so were the mohammed cartoons the burley, and this is the real bait ?
nibs:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on February 11, 2006, 07:57:48 AM ---Interesting, the amount of anti-Jewish cartoons in the Arab world is legitimate in the eyes of the protesting muslims. Yet when they get a taste of their own medicine suddenly u hear the words "double standard". Give me a break, this is a fuckin joke. Freedom of speech suits them only when it works for them in promotion of political propaganda.
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that is an absurd argument. let's review:
a) you conveniently switch between arab and muslim to make your argument seem stronger. these cartoons pissed off alot of muslims outside the arab world and outside the middle east. muslims in asia have also been protesting, and these are people that are significantly disconnected from the jewish issue altogether.
b) the jewish issue largely revolves around the creation of the state of israel. many people believe that the creation of the state of israel was a criminal act per sé. all of israel's crimes against arabs and the palestinians specifically assassinations, concentration camps, stealing palestinian territories...etc. are completely associated with this act. the reason for the creation of the state of israel was to give the jewish people a homeland. thus, zionism and the judaic faith are at the root of the problem and the conflict. the cartoons in the arab world attack zionism because that is the root problem in the region.
these cartoons in denmark were specifically to provoke the muslim populations. it's a completely different issue, one is a defensive response to zionism, the other is an offense against islam in general.
nibs:
--- Quote from: Real American on February 11, 2006, 08:17:19 AM ---Exactly. But it is even worse. Muslims won't even allow Christians and other religious groups to freely practice their religion.
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that is basically a lie. it's just not true. across the arab & muslim world; christian and other religious groups are free to practice their religions. depending on the state, proselytizing is either illegal or frowned upon; but other than that they are free to practice. the specifics vary state by state. in some countries islam is the official religion, other countries require their presidents or prime ministers to be muslim; things like that. there have been protests in lebanon over the cartoons, and lebanon has all sorts of religious diversity and the president is christian. without question religion plays a significantly different role in that region, but freedom to practice christianity and even judiasm is largely recognized.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: nibs on February 11, 2006, 01:08:10 PM ---these cartoons in denmark were specifically to provoke the muslim populations. it's a completely different issue, one is a defensive response to zionism, the other is an offense against islam in general.
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Mohamed being portrayed as a terrorist has nothing to do with the fact there is a correlation between Islam and terrorism?
Give me a fuckin break mate. Do you think Jews outside of Israel weren't outraged at the anti-Jewish cartoons along the Arab world?
U have underlined my point: When it suits them they say "freedom of speech" when it doesn't they holler "double standard".
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