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The age of retirement should be raised to 85 by 2050, a US biologist has said

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virtuoso:

The bottomless pit you mention for natural insurance sure is right, where is that money? if it cant be accounted for then once again massive theft is taking place. Unions are the only defence that employees have against ridiculouus labour and unscrupulous employers. You have just fell into the big trap by talking about abu hamza blah blah. You are wrong most asylum seekers arent criminals or terrorists they are merely economic migrants, who claim to be persecuted, you are only a genuine asylum seeker if you are being singled out by a government, people who feel or are being persecuted by police officers for example dont fall into this category.

 I dont blame asylum seekers for wanting a better life but its a simple demand and supply factor. The more immigration, the more workers there are to apply for a position so when supply side factors are high the market price will fall, meaning that salaries fall and peoples stand of living becomes worse. When you add in the crumbling infrastructure, the overcrowdment on this island anyway, the provision of health care and education and housing which then is given you appreciate just how terrible it is. When I said the borders are wide open by the way I was also referring to illegal immigration, dont you think they realised what would happen when they opened the channel tunnnel? of course they did.

Like I said racism against whites, selectivism, political correctness its all from the government. By the way you addressed the point about the E.U whilst ignoring the fact that its the government who quite happily are waving goodbye to our sovereignty. Again I emphasise all of this is being orchestrated by the government so its ridiculous to point to point the people of this country being the problem because that is complete and utter bullshit.

Don Rizzle:

--- Quote ---Unions are the only defence that employees have against ridiculouus labour and unscrupulous employers
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fair enough if thats the way they choose to act....most of the time they act out of greed, if the jobs that bad get another one....try living in the real world in the private sector see how long you'll keep your job if u tell ur boss ur not going to work. Plus this is where your tax money is going and you happy for them to be resistant to change, lazy fucks waiting for hand outs? it the fault of the unions why we pay so much for the innefficiencies....if the'r jobs so bad they can work somewhere else, firbrigade went on strike yet they have earn 30k a year, and get 30 applicants for every position I say sack anyone who goes on strike especially in such a vital service as this.

plus unions are no the only defence we have courts to protect against unscupulous emplorers

virtuoso:

Firefighters put their life on the line for people literally, what they are getting paid is not unreasonable and again you are disseminating yet more untruths when the strike action last took place the firemen were earning only 22,000. I dont know if the new figure is now 30,000 but its hardly vast sums of money still. Secondly get your head straight "inefficiencies" "greed" you know all the buzzwords dont you, well here is one for you "war"!. Billions and billions being spent on blowing up and ravaging entire countries, through illegal wars fought on the basis of lies and deception.

J Bananas:

--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on February 18, 2006, 12:14:38 PM ---but on the other hand old ppl are a drain on society and have little to contribute other than inheritence, i think instead of raising the retirement age to 85 we should be put them down unless they can fork out extra money to make their existence worthwhile....

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I like the way you think.

[sepehr]:

--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on February 18, 2006, 12:14:38 PM ---yea i'd rather not live as long than work till i'm 85!

but on the other hand old ppl are a drain on society and have little to contribute other than inheritence, i think instead of raising the retirement age to 85 we should be put them down unless they can fork out extra money to make their existence worthwhile....

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Cold hearted shit, but it's reality..

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