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Reason Why Many White People Don't Accept Islam Is Similar To Why The Jews...
[sepehr]:
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--- Quote from: Real American on February 27, 2006, 03:14:24 PM ---The real question is why many Arabs in the Middle East don't accept Christianity.
Oops I forgot.......if they do they are thrown in jail.
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What an ignorant statement, if this was the case, how can you explain the 14 million or so Christian population within the Middle East ?
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He always ignores these kind of statements. Cwalker where are you?
h cottie is bac-tive?:
--- Quote from: sepehr` on March 12, 2006, 10:53:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: lazarus on February 28, 2006, 11:50:43 AM ---
--- Quote from: Real American on February 27, 2006, 03:14:24 PM ---The real question is why many Arabs in the Middle East don't accept Christianity.
Oops I forgot.......if they do they are thrown in jail.
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What an ignorant statement, if this was the case, how can you explain the 14 million or so Christian population within the Middle East ?
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He always ignores these kind of statements. Cwalker where are you?
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just like he ignored my post about the three college white boys that burned down the churches wen he convinced himself a long time ago that it was done by muslims.
Cwalker -----> :-[
Shallow:
--- Quote from: h cottie on March 12, 2006, 10:48:17 PM ---accepting christianity? are you trying to say that Islam teaches bias towards other religions (mainly christianity)?
i hope you're just tryin to say that muslims don't follow christianity becaus at a young age they are taught that islam is the right path. becaus then you might have a valid point, which i wasnt trying to argue in the first place. my statement was regarding posters that have been brainwashed into believing islam is about evil, fear, and hatred towards other which is the exact opposite of its true nature. you dont see me talking about how christianity is horrible becaus christians used to kill black people and spread hate amongst the white race. i dont follow christianity because it is my belief that Jesus Christ was/is not God, but only a prophet of God. that doesn't mean that I haven't learned about the beliefs of other religions as i've grown up, which i can say, the posters like cwalker do not.
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While I'll always have issues with the methods of Muhammad and his followers it is hard to doubt that the main focus of Islam is peace. Most people on the board that state otherwise are probably just doing it for kicks. While you may be tolerant and not go out of your way to post Christian bashing posts, I have seen them on this board, and I'm willing to bet that all Muslim boards would have their share of jackasses who go out of their way to offend people. THere is nothing Western or Christian about being an antagonist. It's a human trait.
All I was saying was that if you are raised as a Christian and you accept Christianity then by logic you have to not accept Islam, but you must tolerate it in order to be a good Christian, and if you are raised as a Muslim and you accept Islam then by logic you cannot accept Christianity, but you must tolerate it to be a good Muslim.
You say you think Jesus was just a prophet and not of the essence of God. My guess is you were taught this your whole life, like I was taught the opposite my whole life. Or if you were taught the way I was then you probably rebelled against the Christians in your life because they were hypocritical. Like 99% of Muslims that believe Jesus is a prophet were raised to think that and the few are the converts that chose to think that. My point is simple; when you are raised a certain way you tend to stick with that way.
h cottie is bac-tive?:
no doubt about that Shallow. i wasnt really taught much about the teachings when i was young, my mother had taken me to a personal teacher that taught me and my siblings how to read the Qu'ran and pray. i didn't really attend sunday school because as a young kid, like most other kids, i didn't want to go to any kind of school. but as i grew up i tried to put myself into a neutral state to really decide for myself. it was hard for me to be neutral since my whole life i was taught to be muslim, and i still remember some of the things i learned as a kid, but the one that stuck out most to me was that there have never been any changes/corrections in the Qu'ran.
things like Jesus couldn't of been God, why would God go to the bathroom?, and various things like that i tried to steer away from in my personal quest. it was when i was reading the Qu'ran and actually started to understand its beliefs that I felt in my heart it was the true religion of mankind. many of times when i have debated with my friends about religion (some jewish, some catholic, some christian) i have expressed to them that I believe Islam is the perfection of Judaism and Christianity. i tell them that i dont see it as different religions, but as one that was perfected over time. but that argument goes only so far, and i respect their views, altho i know they don't know much about theirs/mine/other religions, like most people i encounter.
they accept what they were taught as kids, stick with that view and don't actually try to understand it for themselves. which i believe was your original point, i jus thought i would share a piece of my experiences. i would be interested if you feel like sharing some of ur experiences, but you don't have to. i just think it's interesting when people share a part of their lives.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: h cottie on March 13, 2006, 07:17:26 AM ---no doubt about that Shallow. i wasnt really taught much about the teachings when i was young, my mother had taken me to a personal teacher that taught me and my siblings how to read the Qu'ran and pray. i didn't really attend sunday school because as a young kid, like most other kids, i didn't want to go to any kind of school. but as i grew up i tried to put myself into a neutral state to really decide for myself. it was hard for me to be neutral since my whole life i was taught to be muslim, and i still remember some of the things i learned as a kid, but the one that stuck out most to me was that there have never been any changes/corrections in the Qu'ran.
things like Jesus couldn't of been God, why would God go to the bathroom?, and various things like that i tried to steer away from in my personal quest. it was when i was reading the Qu'ran and actually started to understand its beliefs that I felt in my heart it was the true religion of mankind. many of times when i have debated with my friends about religion (some jewish, some catholic, some christian) i have expressed to them that I believe Islam is the perfection of Judaism and Christianity. i tell them that i dont see it as different religions, but as one that was perfected over time. but that argument goes only so far, and i respect their views, altho i know they don't know much about theirs/mine/other religions, like most people i encounter.
they accept what they were taught as kids, stick with that view and don't actually try to understand it for themselves. which i believe was your original point, i jus thought i would share a piece of my experiences. i would be interested if you feel like sharing some of ur experiences, but you don't have to. i just think it's interesting when people share a part of their lives.
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See now my life and your life in that regard are exactly the same except while you were taught Islam as a kid and then chose it for your self later in life I was taught Christianity as a kid and chose it for my self later in life. We had slightly different reasons; you had your views on whether God can be man and that the Quran was never changed, and I had mine on whether God's prophet would have to pick up arms and fight oppressors when a prophet like Moses had God coming in and dealing with it for him. I guess I couldn't, or refused to, accept a Prophet of God having to engage in violent battles to maintain the word of peace. I also saw no error in anything written in the Gospel, as far as my moral stance go. Everything in the Bible that condemns certain lifestyles come from outside the Bible and it is the black and white issues that Jesus touches on in the Gospel. I always argued htat if the church changed the Bible to duit themselves then why wouldn't they change it so they don't contradict it. Of course all that is meaningless when compared to the feeling I got upon reading the Gospel for the first time in a serious way. I was 19 going on 20 and I just picked it up one day and started reading. I felt something, a presence enter me and light go off in my head, and slowly over the course of the next year I rid myself of all things I considerred wrong or evil. Now this could have simply been me maturing past my adolescent stage and the presence I felt could have been a subconscious plea for me to keep away from bad influences (I wasn't that bad a kid, but I went out of my way to choose a righteous path afterwards. I took some time though). I choose to believe it as divine because that is the faith I have. I argue and debate religion often with both Christians and non-Christians but that is more for my learning rather than to try and change others. I learn a lot about what I feel and think when I debate and here other arguments and ideas. I feel if Christianity is the true religion and I found it on my own then so will everyone else and it is not my place to push it on people.
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