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Crash won Best Picture
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Shallow on March 06, 2006, 07:47:42 AM ---I don't know if all the praise was too much for me, the fact that I came from a very multicultural high school often being the only white guy in my class and discussing every topic that movie was portraying to death for years now, or because I just didn't think it was all that great. I think this movie won more for political reasons rather than quality. The same could be said most of the nominees in that category, but in this case I truly feel Crash was the worst movie out of the five nominated.
All I saw was cliché driven over-coincidences with sappy slightly over the top emotion grabbers in between, done by a white apologist and voted for by more white apologists who want to pretend that a still very racist Hollywood cares about the issues of racist America. It felt like I was watching a set of speeches that all begin with the line "Don't be racist because....". They could have accomplished this in a documentary with realistic facts. I'm willing to over look the odds of Matt Dillon running into the woman he more or less molested the night before, but I don't see why he would try so hard to save her. I don't think the movie properly focused on his redemption leading up to his choices. I don't see why Terrence Howard would just be let go by the police after the way he was acting just because Ryan Phillippe feels bad about what his partner did. I don't see why Larenz Tate would get so upset when asked why he was laughing and basically egg on the guy that picked him up just because they wanted to show that Ryan Phillippe can be racist too. And I personally would have wanted to see Luda sell the Chinese slaves and make cash so that he became everything he claims to stand against, but I'm not complaining about that. The Academy just wanted to pretend they are concerned and probably still feel a little guilty and voted for this movie because of that. Of course they also voted for the biggest black stereotype out there and had the only black people that won an award turn out to be uneducated yokels, or modern day "coons". So I guess it evens out for you Hollywood. I bet they didn't even ask 36 Mafia to dress up or to present themselves properly because they wanted them to act like that. You think when 3-6 go to church they dress and talk like that? I don't. Concerned about racism? I don't think so Hollywood.
(You can press the diss button in the corner of my post if you like, but this is truly how I feel and I'm just expressing my opinion).
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The film never tells the viewer why racism is wrong. It just shows how racism shapes people's lives, of course some parts were not entire believeable and exxaragerated but if it wasnt it would have been impossible to show that point and too damn long.
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How does it not? It has a racist cop molest a black woman, a man almost shoot a girl because he thought he was a victim of racism, a not so racist cop show that he is racist by assuming a black man has a gun. This movie has a clear don't assume with out knowing message and it's a great message, I just don't think it's that great a movie. A PG version would be a great addition to any high school social studies class though. You can disagree about the quality and rightfully disagree but you can't deny it's meant as an educational film with examples with morals. Haggis has said so in plenty of interviews.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Javy on March 06, 2006, 12:15:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 06, 2006, 07:47:42 AM ---I don't know if all the praise was too much for me, the fact that I came from a very multicultural high school often being the only white guy in my class and discussing every topic that movie was portraying to death for years now, or because I just didn't think it was all that great. I think this movie won more for political reasons rather than quality. The same could be said most of the nominees in that category, but in this case I truly feel Crash was the worst movie out of the five nominated.
All I saw was cliché driven over-coincidences with sappy slightly over the top emotion grabbers in between, done by a white apologist and voted for by more white apologists who want to pretend that a still very racist Hollywood cares about the issues of racist America. It felt like I was watching a set of speeches that all begin with the line "Don't be racist because....". They could have accomplished this in a documentary with realistic facts. I'm willing to over look the odds of Matt Dillon running into the woman he more or less molested the night before, but I don't see why he would try so hard to save her. I don't think the movie properly focused on his redemption leading up to his choices. I don't see why Terrence Howard would just be let go by the police after the way he was acting just because Ryan Phillippe feels bad about what his partner did. I don't see why Larenz Tate would get so upset when asked why he was laughing and basically egg on the guy that picked him up just because they wanted to show that Ryan Phillippe can be racist too. And I personally would have wanted to see Luda sell the Chinese slaves and make cash so that he became everything he claims to stand against, but I'm not complaining about that. The Academy just wanted to pretend they are concerned and probably still feel a little guilty and voted for this movie because of that. Of course they also voted for the biggest black stereotype out there and had the only black people that won an award turn out to be uneducated yokels, or modern day "coons". So I guess it evens out for you Hollywood. I bet they didn't even ask 36 Mafia to dress up or to present themselves properly because they wanted them to act like that. You think when 3-6 go to church they dress and talk like that? I don't. Concerned about racism? I don't think so Hollywood.
(You can press the diss button in the corner of my post if you like, but this is truly how I feel and I'm just expressing my opinion).
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The film never tells the viewer why racism is wrong. It just shows how racism shapes people's lives, of course some parts were not entire believeable and exxaragerated but if it wasnt it would have been impossible to show that point and too damn long.
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Exactly, it's a movie, not a documentary. It's not trying to profess truth, it's just sending out a message and of course, entertaining the audience.
As for 3-6 winning, I don't understand how they acted like yokels or coons. I thought they did a great performance and were very cool when it came to their acceptance of the award.
westkoastanostra:
thats great that crash won...i was able to see that movie in theaters back in may....by the way...who won best actor/actress and best supporting actor/actress?
Javier:
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 06, 2006, 12:37:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javy on March 06, 2006, 12:15:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 06, 2006, 07:47:42 AM ---I don't know if all the praise was too much for me, the fact that I came from a very multicultural high school often being the only white guy in my class and discussing every topic that movie was portraying to death for years now, or because I just didn't think it was all that great. I think this movie won more for political reasons rather than quality. The same could be said most of the nominees in that category, but in this case I truly feel Crash was the worst movie out of the five nominated.
All I saw was cliché driven over-coincidences with sappy slightly over the top emotion grabbers in between, done by a white apologist and voted for by more white apologists who want to pretend that a still very racist Hollywood cares about the issues of racist America. It felt like I was watching a set of speeches that all begin with the line "Don't be racist because....". They could have accomplished this in a documentary with realistic facts. I'm willing to over look the odds of Matt Dillon running into the woman he more or less molested the night before, but I don't see why he would try so hard to save her. I don't think the movie properly focused on his redemption leading up to his choices. I don't see why Terrence Howard would just be let go by the police after the way he was acting just because Ryan Phillippe feels bad about what his partner did. I don't see why Larenz Tate would get so upset when asked why he was laughing and basically egg on the guy that picked him up just because they wanted to show that Ryan Phillippe can be racist too. And I personally would have wanted to see Luda sell the Chinese slaves and make cash so that he became everything he claims to stand against, but I'm not complaining about that. The Academy just wanted to pretend they are concerned and probably still feel a little guilty and voted for this movie because of that. Of course they also voted for the biggest black stereotype out there and had the only black people that won an award turn out to be uneducated yokels, or modern day "coons". So I guess it evens out for you Hollywood. I bet they didn't even ask 36 Mafia to dress up or to present themselves properly because they wanted them to act like that. You think when 3-6 go to church they dress and talk like that? I don't. Concerned about racism? I don't think so Hollywood.
(You can press the diss button in the corner of my post if you like, but this is truly how I feel and I'm just expressing my opinion).
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The film never tells the viewer why racism is wrong. It just shows how racism shapes people's lives, of course some parts were not entire believeable and exxaragerated but if it wasnt it would have been impossible to show that point and too damn long.
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How does it not? It has a racist cop molest a black woman, a man almost shoot a girl because he thought he was a victim of racism, a not so racist cop show that he is racist by assuming a black man has a gun. This movie has a clear don't assume with out knowing message and it's a great message, I just don't think it's that great a movie. A PG version would be a great addition to any high school social studies class though. You can disagree about the quality and rightfully disagree but you can't deny it's meant as an educational film with examples with morals. Haggis has said so in plenty of interviews.
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It shows how racism affects people's lives. How we feel uncomfortable around strangers but comfortable at the same time. And no doubt that this movie will be shown in High Schools and Sociology classes. But if you didnt think it was a great movie because it was cliche driven and etc, then geez man how many movies do you think are Best Picture worthy? Two or Three in the history of films.
africas seed:
i thought that the acceptance speech by 3-6 was very genuine and their attire i thought was more for the performance and becuz the award was nominated right after their performance they werent able to get changed.
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