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Crash won Best Picture
Trauma-san:
I agree with Shallow and his opinions on the hypocricy of hollywood. It's so blindingly obvious to me I can't believe nobody else is seeing it. They don't want anybody to think *gasp* that they're racist, so they tip their hand by making a movie so blatantly made by a bunch of apologists. People like this know nothing about the 3 6 mafia. The fact that they gave them an award exposes their true intentions. They didn't award the song they liked the best, or they thought was the best, they awarded the song they thought was politically correct to award. That's fucking disgusting.
Like I said in the other thread, though, good for 3 6 mafia. They're just as talented as some of the bullshit the academy awards each year.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Trauma on March 07, 2006, 06:33:19 AM ---I agree with Shallow
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Has Hell frozen over?
I know what you mean about the song too. I could even go so far and see a bunch of older academy members just seeing the song on the ballot, snickering, and voting for it because they want to see lower class black people dance around. It's no secret how blatantly racist Hollywood used to be, and the new Hollywood really isn't doing a good job of changing that. They either think they are and are just plain idiots, or they're just as racist and want to hide it but give enough hints to let people know.
Sikotic™:
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--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on March 06, 2006, 09:21:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 06, 2006, 06:34:33 PM ---And Sik; to me it seemed as if Three 6 were playing stereotypes. They wrote a song on pimps and drug dealers and acted like thugs.
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Well you do realize that the movie they did the song for was about pimps and drug dealers right?
As for how 3-6 carried themselves, I don't know them personally so I can't speak on it. In my opinion, they did just fine. Especially considering that they're ghetto as hell lol.
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I don't have a problem with the actual song (eventhough I could see it only being nominated because racist whites to laugh at black stereotypes). The interpretive dance didn't blend with the hip hop style performance but that's neither here nor there.
As for how they carried themselves; if I go to where they live and go to church with them on Sunday and hang out with just them afterwards and they dress up like that and speak like that a hype up everything then I'll retract what I said. Until then I'll see it as just another case of "keeping it real". I just find it odd that in a place where they tell everyone to get dressed up and stay dressed up that these guys were allowed to dress like that. Even the girl who sang the hook and played a whore in the film was dressed up and she looked fine singing that song. I don't think it would have taken anything away from the performance if they had suits on, particularly considering the interpretive dance involved. And I think they were allowed to dress up like that because who ever let them was counting on people laughing at them. I'm not upset with Three 6 because I think they are the victims in this. I think a lot of people won't say too much about it because the blacks won't go too far since they are street rappers and the whites will just pretend it wasa good fun time. If Terrence Howard had performed the song dressed like that then he'd be the victim of fury this week.
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3-6 Mafia did dress up during the ceremony. They all had suits on. Why would they be wearing suits and tuxedos during their performance? Its not like they were walking around in jeans and t-shirts the entire time.
I feel bad for the poor academy. If they let 3-6 Mafia win, they're racist & they want to see a bunch of, in your words, low level blacks, dance around like fools. If they allow 3-6 Mafia to lose, then that means they didn't stand a chance and they nominated them just out of pity. Basically, the voters are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
To be quite honest, I think you guys are putting the stigma around african-americans moreso than the Oscars ever did.
Javier:
I wonder what you guys would have said if Brokeback Mountain would have won? Or how about Good Night and Good Luck? Or a History of Violence? Or Munich?! Guess what? All of these movies had "liberal" agendas. With Brokeback people would have complained about the gay side about it, if Good Night and Good Luck people would have complained about the Iraq comparisons, if A History of Violence would have won, people would have complained about the effect of violence has in America. How about Munich? LOL. Please, give it a rest.
Shallow:
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History of Violence wasn't nominated.
Anyway, it's the agenda that bothers me. Good Night and Good Luck could have won because of an anti-conservative agenda and I wouldn't care because I think it was good enough to win. Capote could have won because of a pro-gay agenda and I wouldn't say a word because I'd feel it's good enough to win. I think Crash was below all the othere movies nominated and I feel the agenda got it nominated in the first place. I don't think it was that good a movie. BRokeback was with out a doubt pushed because it was pro-gay and if it were a straight cowbay going up to the mountains to cheat on his wife with a native american. black, or just some white girl it probably wouldn't have gotten any buzz but I would still think it's a brilliant movie and if it won I'd say nothing, gay or not gay. I didn't like Crash as much as everyone else did and do not think for a moment it was the best picture. But that's just my opinion. I just want to clarify that the politics are not what upset me.
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on March 07, 2006, 12:38:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 07, 2006, 06:26:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on March 06, 2006, 09:21:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 06, 2006, 06:34:33 PM ---And Sik; to me it seemed as if Three 6 were playing stereotypes. They wrote a song on pimps and drug dealers and acted like thugs.
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Well you do realize that the movie they did the song for was about pimps and drug dealers right?
As for how 3-6 carried themselves, I don't know them personally so I can't speak on it. In my opinion, they did just fine. Especially considering that they're ghetto as hell lol.
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I don't have a problem with the actual song (eventhough I could see it only being nominated because racist whites to laugh at black stereotypes). The interpretive dance didn't blend with the hip hop style performance but that's neither here nor there.
As for how they carried themselves; if I go to where they live and go to church with them on Sunday and hang out with just them afterwards and they dress up like that and speak like that a hype up everything then I'll retract what I said. Until then I'll see it as just another case of "keeping it real". I just find it odd that in a place where they tell everyone to get dressed up and stay dressed up that these guys were allowed to dress like that. Even the girl who sang the hook and played a whore in the film was dressed up and she looked fine singing that song. I don't think it would have taken anything away from the performance if they had suits on, particularly considering the interpretive dance involved. And I think they were allowed to dress up like that because who ever let them was counting on people laughing at them. I'm not upset with Three 6 because I think they are the victims in this. I think a lot of people won't say too much about it because the blacks won't go too far since they are street rappers and the whites will just pretend it wasa good fun time. If Terrence Howard had performed the song dressed like that then he'd be the victim of fury this week.
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3-6 Mafia did dress up during the ceremony. They all had suits on. Why would they be wearing suits and tuxedos during their performance? Its not like they were walking around in jeans and t-shirts the entire time.
I feel bad for the poor academy. If they let 3-6 Mafia win, they're racist & they want to see a bunch of, in your words, low level blacks, dance around like fools. If they allow 3-6 Mafia to lose, then that means they didn't stand a chance and they nominated them just out of pity. Basically, the voters are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
To be quite honest, I think you guys are putting the stigma around african-americans moreso than the Oscars ever did.
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Maybe I am wrong, and maybe I sound like a member of the Nation but I find it a little too convenient that the award for best song would be present just after Three 6 performed and not given enough time to change even if they wanted to. I also don't see why the street clothes were needed in the first place. Taraji P. Henson played a whore and she dressed up nice. The interpretive dance took away any sense of the real streets anyway. Basically, I think the Academy set it up the way they did on purpose and I think Three 6 spends too much time trying to stay "gangsta". I could be wrong. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I still think they looked like idiots for not presenting themselves a little better, but that's just how I feel about formal settings. If a gay flamer shows up at something like the Oscars and pulls the whole "Hellooooooooo. Oh My GOD! You look Fahbulous!", or a southern white guy shows up with his "uh hyuk, uh hyuk" I see it as people who know how to act properly but choose to defy the norm for either the sake of defying the norm or to appease the people they know that may be watching. I'd say the same thing if Jessica Simpson won an Oscar and she played the dumb blonde role.
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