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Crash won Best Picture
Shallow:
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No one is saying they had to give a reserved speech in old english. I just think they looked like clowns, and I think that because I feel they acted like that on purpose and act like that on purpose to appease the streets. Walk into the ghetto and ask about women's rights to a single person with no one else around (I've done this) and more often than not you'll get a reasonable intelligent real answer. Bring it up later when every one else is around and you'll hear something along the lines of "she's got the right to suck my dick" more often than not. That's the way the streets make people act stupid. Of course you can apply this to any group for various topics but in this case with Three 6 it was the streets.
However, if I were to find out that they really don't know better and were taught like this by even their families then I take everything I said about them back. I'm not trying to insult them by calling them stupid. I just they they are stupid for faking it like that.
And I never said none of the movies deserved to be there. I think they all should have been there, except Crash. In it's place I would have put Walk The Line. Javy's praise of History of Violence makes me want to watch it again so I'll let you know if I think that should be there.
P.S. There is nothing wrong with realizing the importance of an Oscar and treating it with high regard like some "wanna-be intellectual asshole". The Oscar is very important. The award itself may not be, but the desire to win it is. That desire is what makes directors spend year after year trying to perfect their craft and art to been recognized and we as fans benefit because we get the best movies out of it. Very few make music to win a grammy because most of the real artists think the award is a joke and if they felt that it truly stood for the best album then I'd bet artists would try extra hard to make the best albums they could and we'd all be better off as fans.
--- Quote from: Javy on March 07, 2006, 03:37:09 PM ---Films that deserve to win so often never do. Why even bring up the politics? This is just another case, in your opinion, of a film that didn't deserve to win Best Picture. How many times has this happen over the years?
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In MY this is one of the only times I feel a film that didn't deserve to be there won the Oscar. I have no problem with politics driving a movie if I think the movie is good enough. In this case, I don't Crash was good enough to be there.
I never called you guys idiots for liking Crash or stated that the Oscars have become a joke since it won. This isn't the Grammys. My first post was based on my opinion on the movie and how I think it was overrated and that it was because of it's morals. Morals are great but they don't make a movie great, and in my opinion that movie wasn't Oscar great. I feel the same movie teaching the message like making it seem like racism is a good thing, with the exact same cinematography, acting, directing, and production would have been thrown out the window by everyone that saw it. If Brokeback or Capote were the same movies buit had a story where the character concludes that homosexuality is wrong and turns his back on it then I'd feel the same about those two movies. If Good Night and Good Luck praised McCarthy's views and made Murrow look like a clown I'd still think it's Oscar worthy, if the movie was as good. I realize the liberal academy wouldn't have voted for those movies if they did have those messages, but that is not my point. My point was what I of the movieand how good I thought it was. It's just my opinion.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Javy on March 07, 2006, 05:01:07 PM ---It's stupid of you complaining about one movie when your beef is with the Academy itself.
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I'm not complaining about 1 movie. I'm complaining about the Academy.
Javier:
Just say so then and dont say this "They don't want anybody to think *gasp* that they're racist, so they tip their hand by making a movie so blatantly made by a bunch of apologists. " Right here you're bitching about Crash, dont even mention Crash just bitch at what's so incredibly obvious with the Academy
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 07, 2006, 08:10:23 PM ---No one is saying they had to give a reserved speech in old english. I just think they looked like clowns, and I think that because I feel they acted like that on purpose and act like that on purpose to appease the streets. Walk into the ghetto and ask about women's rights to a single person with no one else around (I've done this) and more often than not you'll get a reasonable intelligent real answer. Bring it up later when every one else is around and you'll hear something along the lines of "she's got the right to suck my dick" more often than not. That's the way the streets make people act stupid. Of course you can apply this to any group for various topics but in this case with Three 6 it was the streets.
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The fact that people act differently when they're one-on-one and when they're in a group is no mystery. It happens with all groups of people from all walks of life so I don't know what your point is by mentioning that.
But hey, you're probably right. Who doesn't go accept an award and thank the people who supported them? Maybe I need to watch their acceptance again, because nothing really comes to mind where the group made me cringe out of their stupdity. I just remember those guys being really excited and surprised.
Walk The Line was a really great film and I agree it deserved to be nominated. In my opinion though, Crash was much better than Walk The Line. I can't determine if Walk The Line was better than Capote or Brokeback Mountain, because I didn't see those 2 films, but I think Good Night, Good Luck and Munich were both better movies too.
Shallow:
Who dissed me and why? Because I didn't like Crash that much?
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on March 07, 2006, 09:22:11 PM ---The fact that people act differently when they're one-on-one and when they're in a group is no mystery. It happens with all groups of people from all walks of life so I don't know what your point is by mentioning that.
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I know it happens to all people in all walks of life, and I even said that, but as I also said in the case we are discussing it's the streets and being "street" and not being "white". That's the way it came across to me anyway.
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on March 07, 2006, 09:22:11 PM ---But hey, you're probably right. Who doesn't go accept an award and thank the people who supported them? Maybe I need to watch their acceptance again, because nothing really comes to mind where the group made me cringe out of their stupdity. I just remember those guys being really excited and surprised.
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For me they didn't come across as artists. THey came across as 3 Flava Flaves, and I've always been more a Chuck D guy than a Flava Flave guy. But that's just me.
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on March 07, 2006, 09:22:11 PM ---Walk The Line was a really great film and I agree it deserved to be nominated. In my opinion though, Crash was much better than Walk The Line. I can't determine if Walk The Line was better than Capote or Brokeback Mountain, because I didn't see those 2 films, but I think Good Night, Good Luck and Munich were both better movies too.
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Okay you think Crash was better than Walk The Line and I think Walk The Line was better. It's not the end of the World. If Walk The Line was nominated instead and it won and there was a thread praising it and you jumped in and said it was good but overrated and said Crash should have been there in stead I wouldn't have minded. I would have debated to get my point across but I wouldn't have thought less of you or tried to insult (not that I think you were insulting me).
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