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rik:

--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on March 23, 2006, 04:56:41 PM ---Did anyone else notice when he was on phone during his dreams that wasnt carmellas voice on the phone

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Yeah it didn't sound like her I wasn't sure though.

h cottie is bac-tive?:

--- Quote from: Fool I'm A Vet on March 23, 2006, 02:03:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: h cottie on March 22, 2006, 12:26:26 AM ---i have a feeling that if Tony dialed the number he would've returned. the way the camera showed the telephone under the light, and then after he sat on the bed, the yellow light in the background and all that. idk why but i jus felt that if he called the number, he woulda came back right then.

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Also the convention he was trying to get into could represent heaven, but he couldn't get in because he didn't have his I.D.


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whaaaaaaaaat i never thought of that.

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: rik on March 23, 2006, 05:50:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on March 23, 2006, 04:56:41 PM ---Did anyone else notice when he was on phone during his dreams that wasnt carmellas voice on the phone

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Yeah it didn't sound like her I wasn't sure though.


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It was like his imagined wife, and kids.  When he called, the answering machine picked up, and his son and daughter and wife were like "HI!!! You've Reached the SOPRANOS!!!! Leave a message!!!!" then giggling and things. 

I didn't notice the heaven thing either, that's good.  The Alzheimers thing, did you notice that?  The doctor told Tony in the ER that he had a black area on his brain that was the early stages of Alzheimers, and at the same time the doctors in the real world were thinking that he was starting to suffer Brian Damage from the gunshot wound. 

herpes:

--- Quote from: Trauma on March 24, 2006, 06:37:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: rik on March 23, 2006, 05:50:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on March 23, 2006, 04:56:41 PM ---Did anyone else notice when he was on phone during his dreams that wasnt carmellas voice on the phone

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Yeah it didn't sound like her I wasn't sure though.


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I didn't notice the heaven thing either, that's good.  The Alzheimers thing, did you notice that?  The doctor told Tony in the ER that he had a black area on his brain that was the early stages of Alzheimers, and at the same time the doctors in the real world were thinking that he was starting to suffer Brian Damage from the gunshot wound. 

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I didnt notice that at all, this was the type of episode you had to watch a couple of times to catch everything.

Trauma-san:
I'm still trying to fully grasp the 'mistaken identity' thing.  If the Convention is heaven, and you have to be a good businessman to get into the convention with proper i.d., some other guy has Tony's i.d.  So tony can't get into the convention, i.e. he can't get into heaven.

The guy who has Tony's i.d. is an asshole.  He didn't pay those monks the money they needed and that he promised them. 

The guy who has Tony's i.d. can't get into heaven with his own i.d., because Tony would have just used it to get in, but it wasn't sufficient.

So, Tony can't get into heaven because this other guy stole his business i.d. which would enable him to get into the convention.

If the convention represents heaven, then his business i.d. must represent his salvation or his karmic equity he's amassed in his life.

The real Tony Soprano can't get into heaven because some Asshole that looks just like him stole his life away at a bar, and a woman at the gates of heaven told him he couldn't get in.  The woman probably represents Carmella telling him he's going to Hell.

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