NEW YORK DID NOT INVENT HIP HOP!!!!!

[Crown]

Crown, nice pasted article although i dont hink it supports your arguement even if i do agree with you


lmao dullard

your article aint bout hiphop as a music but as a culture ? and if thats that then why not take it back to the church with the preachers call outs and the "crowds" response...or even further back to the days of slavery when ways to "sing" and talk bout life was life...surely thats what the essence telling the story thru music or representin


and bout hiphop almost as we see it today what about the watts prophets...
...before you diss and tar everyone with the same brush...maybe you better use that brush to sweep your own preconcieved conceptions about other peoples knowledge away


 


peace tho nicca you arguement is weak but your point behind it is true


but this arguement can go on for time and time
 * because it depends on what your own true representation of hiphop is...if u talking mixin / djing the kool herc et al were the first cutting it up in a style the jamaicans hadnt by using new techniques ...


...ya get me bro ? 

If you want to get technical about it, we can trace  Hip Hop all the way back to Africa. Hip Hop style music from the 70s comes directly to New York from a Jamaican immigrant called KOOL HERC, his style was based off of the Soundsystem Dancehall DJs in his hometown of Kingston. He just used James Brown and Funk record breaks instead of Reaggae records. They also chant or toast in dancehall music and KOOL HERC along with COKE LAROCK began rapping.

 Muhammad Ali, born Cassius Clay in 1942 in Louisville, Ky., won a gold medal in the 1960 Olympics and then turned professional. In one of the most famous boxing matches of the century, Clay in 1965 stunned the world by beating apparently invincible, world heavyweight champion Sonny Liston in six rounds. Before the match, a supremely confident Clay, spun out one of his to be famous rhymes: “Sonny Liston is great, but he'll fall in eight.” After defeating Liston, Clay announced his conversion to Islam and changed his name to Muhammad Ali.
Clay would also go on to say the famous "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" rhymes, that also helped influence what is now called RAP.
Clay comes out to meet Liston
And Liston starts to retreat
If Liston goes back any further
He'll end up in a ringside seat.
Clay swings with a left,
Clay swings with a right,
Look at young Cassius
Carry the fight.
Liston keeps backing
But there's not enough room
It's a matter of time.
There, Clay lowers the boom.
Now Clay swings with a right,
What a beautiful swing,
And the punch raises the bear,
Clear out of the ring.
Liston is still rising
And the ref wears a frown,
For he can't start counting,
Till Sonny comes down.
Now Liston disappears from view.
The crowd is getting frantic,
But our radar stations have picked him up
He's somewhere over the Atlantic.
Who would have thought
When they came to the fight
That they'd witness the launching
Of a human satellite?
Yes, the crowd did not dream
When they laid down their money
That they would see
A total eclipse of the Sonny!
I am the greatest!



Throughout history here in America there has always been some form of verbal acrobatics or jousting involving rhymes within the Afro-American community. Signifying, testifying, Shining of the Titanic, the Dozens, school yard rhymes, prison 'jail house' rhymes and double Dutch jump rope' rhymes are some of the names and ways that various forms of rap have manifested.

The first Rap song I ever heard was Mr. Cool by Issac Hayes,Parliament Funkadelic used to also put little funky rhymes in their songs. Toasting is a tradition that has existed in black america for many years in the South, in Jail, and Pimps (example.Dolemite).  I THINK THAT YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT.

I DID NOT SAY THAT NEW YORK DIDNT INNOVATE HIP HOP. I AM SAYING THAT RAP, DJ, GRAF, STREET DANCE, ALREADY EXISTED B4 NEW YORK IN THE 1970S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNDERSTAND!!!!!!! CREATE AND INNOVATE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS!

ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE CULTURE OF HIP HOP IS BASED OFF OF TAKING SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXIST AND FLIPPING IT. SO IF L.A. OR THE SOUTH OR ANY BODY ELSE DOES IT DIFERENTLY. NEW YORK DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE IT ON THEIR STANDARDS, BECAUSE IT EXISTED B4 KOOL HERC TOUCHED NEW YORK.

[Crown]

thats was a good reading

It doesnt really matter if it's from NY or not but when the money comes into the picture to fullfill ur bank account this is diffirent shit & so far I always heard NY was the ''source'' at least for the graffitis but i guess its wrong.
 

I agree cuz mis-information can cause ppl to not wanna fuck with you cuz you aint "the real", but who is the real? This shit belongs to ALL OF US!

[OpTiCaL]

Crown, nice pasted article although i dont hink it supports your arguement even if i do agree with you


lmao dullard

your article aint bout hiphop as a music but as a culture ? and if thats that then why not take it back to the church with the preachers call outs and the "crowds" response...or even further back to the days of slavery when ways to "sing" and talk bout life was life...surely thats what the essence telling the story thru music or representin


and bout hiphop almost as we see it today what about the watts prophets...
...before you diss and tar everyone with the same brush...maybe you better use that brush to sweep your own preconcieved conceptions about other peoples knowledge away


 


peace tho nicca you arguement is weak but your point behind it is true


but this arguement can go on for time and time
 * because it depends on what your own true representation of hiphop is...if u talking mixin / djing the kool herc et al were the first cutting it up in a style the jamaicans hadnt by using new techniques ...


...ya get me bro ? 

If you want to get technical about it, we can trace  Hip Hop all the way back to Africa. Hip Hop style music from the 70s comes directly to New York from a Jamaican immigrant called KOOL HERC, his style was based off of the Soundsystem Dancehall DJs in his hometown of Kingston. He just used James Brown and Funk record breaks instead of Reaggae records. They also chant or toast in dancehall music and KOOL HERC along with COKE LAROCK began rapping.

 Muhammad Ali, born Cassius Clay in 1942 in Louisville, Ky., won a gold medal in the 1960 Olympics and then turned professional. In one of the most famous boxing matches of the century, Clay in 1965 stunned the world by beating apparently invincible, world heavyweight champion Sonny Liston in six rounds. Before the match, a supremely confident Clay, spun out one of his to be famous rhymes: “Sonny Liston is great, but he'll fall in eight.” After defeating Liston, Clay announced his conversion to Islam and changed his name to Muhammad Ali.
Clay would also go on to say the famous "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" rhymes, that also helped influence what is now called RAP.
Clay comes out to meet Liston
And Liston starts to retreat
If Liston goes back any further
He'll end up in a ringside seat.
Clay swings with a left,
Clay swings with a right,
Look at young Cassius
Carry the fight.
Liston keeps backing
But there's not enough room
It's a matter of time.
There, Clay lowers the boom.
Now Clay swings with a right,
What a beautiful swing,
And the punch raises the bear,
Clear out of the ring.
Liston is still rising
And the ref wears a frown,
For he can't start counting,
Till Sonny comes down.
Now Liston disappears from view.
The crowd is getting frantic,
But our radar stations have picked him up
He's somewhere over the Atlantic.
Who would have thought
When they came to the fight
That they'd witness the launching
Of a human satellite?
Yes, the crowd did not dream
When they laid down their money
That they would see
A total eclipse of the Sonny!
I am the greatest!



Throughout history here in America there has always been some form of verbal acrobatics or jousting involving rhymes within the Afro-American community. Signifying, testifying, Shining of the Titanic, the Dozens, school yard rhymes, prison 'jail house' rhymes and double Dutch jump rope' rhymes are some of the names and ways that various forms of rap have manifested.

The first Rap song I ever heard was Mr. Cool by Issac Hayes,Parliament Funkadelic used to also put little funky rhymes in their songs. Toasting is a tradition that has existed in black america for many years in the South, in Jail, and Pimps (example.Dolemite).  I THINK THAT YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT.

I DID NOT SAY THAT NEW YORK DIDNT INNOVATE HIP HOP. I AM SAYING THAT RAP, DJ, GRAF, STREET DANCE, ALREADY EXISTED B4 NEW YORK IN THE 1970S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNDERSTAND!!!!!!! CREATE AND INNOVATE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS!

ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE CULTURE OF HIP HOP IS BASED OFF OF TAKING SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXIST AND FLIPPING IT. SO IF L.A. OR THE SOUTH OR ANY BODY ELSE DOES IT DIFERENTLY. NEW YORK DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE IT ON THEIR STANDARDS, BECAUSE IT EXISTED B4 KOOL HERC TOUCHED NEW YORK.

And again you just re-iterate what ive said 

lmfao we aint arguing i just picked on what u initially said bout NY DID NOT INVENT HIP_HOP...then pasting an article on a differing area to the whole genre

 

[Crown]

Crown, nice pasted article although i dont hink it supports your arguement even if i do agree with you


lmao dullard

your article aint bout hiphop as a music but as a culture ? and if thats that then why not take it back to the church with the preachers call outs and the "crowds" response...or even further back to the days of slavery when ways to "sing" and talk bout life was life...surely thats what the essence telling the story thru music or representin


and bout hiphop almost as we see it today what about the watts prophets...
...before you diss and tar everyone with the same brush...maybe you better use that brush to sweep your own preconcieved conceptions about other peoples knowledge away


 


peace tho nicca you arguement is weak but your point behind it is true


but this arguement can go on for time and time
 * because it depends on what your own true representation of hiphop is...if u talking mixin / djing the kool herc et al were the first cutting it up in a style the jamaicans hadnt by using new techniques ...


...ya get me bro ? 

If you want to get technical about it, we can trace  Hip Hop all the way back to Africa. Hip Hop style music from the 70s comes directly to New York from a Jamaican immigrant called KOOL HERC, his style was based off of the Soundsystem Dancehall DJs in his hometown of Kingston. He just used James Brown and Funk record breaks instead of Reaggae records. They also chant or toast in dancehall music and KOOL HERC along with COKE LAROCK began rapping.

 Muhammad Ali, born Cassius Clay in 1942 in Louisville, Ky., won a gold medal in the 1960 Olympics and then turned professional. In one of the most famous boxing matches of the century, Clay in 1965 stunned the world by beating apparently invincible, world heavyweight champion Sonny Liston in six rounds. Before the match, a supremely confident Clay, spun out one of his to be famous rhymes: “Sonny Liston is great, but he'll fall in eight.” After defeating Liston, Clay announced his conversion to Islam and changed his name to Muhammad Ali.
Clay would also go on to say the famous "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" rhymes, that also helped influence what is now called RAP.
Clay comes out to meet Liston
And Liston starts to retreat
If Liston goes back any further
He'll end up in a ringside seat.
Clay swings with a left,
Clay swings with a right,
Look at young Cassius
Carry the fight.
Liston keeps backing
But there's not enough room
It's a matter of time.
There, Clay lowers the boom.
Now Clay swings with a right,
What a beautiful swing,
And the punch raises the bear,
Clear out of the ring.
Liston is still rising
And the ref wears a frown,
For he can't start counting,
Till Sonny comes down.
Now Liston disappears from view.
The crowd is getting frantic,
But our radar stations have picked him up
He's somewhere over the Atlantic.
Who would have thought
When they came to the fight
That they'd witness the launching
Of a human satellite?
Yes, the crowd did not dream
When they laid down their money
That they would see
A total eclipse of the Sonny!
I am the greatest!



Throughout history here in America there has always been some form of verbal acrobatics or jousting involving rhymes within the Afro-American community. Signifying, testifying, Shining of the Titanic, the Dozens, school yard rhymes, prison 'jail house' rhymes and double Dutch jump rope' rhymes are some of the names and ways that various forms of rap have manifested.

The first Rap song I ever heard was Mr. Cool by Issac Hayes,Parliament Funkadelic used to also put little funky rhymes in their songs. Toasting is a tradition that has existed in black america for many years in the South, in Jail, and Pimps (example.Dolemite).  I THINK THAT YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT.

I DID NOT SAY THAT NEW YORK DIDNT INNOVATE HIP HOP. I AM SAYING THAT RAP, DJ, GRAF, STREET DANCE, ALREADY EXISTED B4 NEW YORK IN THE 1970S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNDERSTAND!!!!!!! CREATE AND INNOVATE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS!

ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE CULTURE OF HIP HOP IS BASED OFF OF TAKING SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXIST AND FLIPPING IT. SO IF L.A. OR THE SOUTH OR ANY BODY ELSE DOES IT DIFERENTLY. NEW YORK DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE IT ON THEIR STANDARDS, BECAUSE IT EXISTED B4 KOOL HERC TOUCHED NEW YORK.

And again you just re-iterate what ive said 

lmfao we aint arguing i just picked on what u initially said bout NY DID NOT INVENT HIP_HOP...then pasting an article on a differing area to the whole genre

 

O.K. No Prob.