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the poll no-one had the balls to start...
h cottie is bac-tive?:
LOL the prophet's first wife was a very successful business woman. she is the one that proposed to the prophet. he married his other wives after her death. some of the women were recent widows of warriors in battle while others were daughters of his close allies. they all accepted islam and understood that he had a great responsibility.
as to your comment about war. Meccans confiscated and stole all the property the muslims had left in mecca. the muslims owned no land in Medina so they would have to live on charity and whatever wage labor they could find, both of which were in very rare to find. these battles were in self-defense. there are MANY verses in the qu'ran related to warfare. here is an example:
"You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers."
"... if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them"
"You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors"
the prophet also layed down rules for humane warfare (which was unusual in those times)
"You are neither hard-hearted nor of fierce character, nor one who shouts in the markets. You do not return evil for evil, but excuse and forgive"
"Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman"
The Prophet's successor Abu Bakr said:
"Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone."
h cottie is bac-tive?:
and as to ur comment about "the high life"....
the prophet was born without a father (he died before the prophet's birth) and his mother died when he was 6 years old. he lived with his grandfather then with his uncle. the prophet became a merchant and one of his employers (his future wife) was very impressed with him and proposed him to marriage. the prophet did not inherit any money from his grandfather or uncle. so i dont understand where u get this "high life" statement from. the prophet was always regarded as a very honest and trustworthy person. (even before the first revelations at age 40)
coola:
--- Quote from: h cottie on March 25, 2006, 10:38:50 PM ---LOL the prophet's first wife was a very successful business woman. she is the one that proposed to the prophet. he married his other wives after her death. some of the women were recent widows of warriors in battle while others were daughters of his close allies. they all accepted islam and understood that he had a great responsibility.
as to your comment about war. Meccans confiscated and stole all the property the muslims had left in mecca. the muslims owned no land in Medina so they would have to live on charity and whatever wage labor they could find, both of which were in very rare to find. these battles were in self-defense. there are MANY verses in the qu'ran related to warfare. here is an example:
"You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers."
"... if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them"
"You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors"
the prophet also layed down rules for humane warfare (which was unusual in those times)
"You are neither hard-hearted nor of fierce character, nor one who shouts in the markets. You do not return evil for evil, but excuse and forgive"
"Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman"
The Prophet's successor Abu Bakr said:
"Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone."
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pfff that is BULLSHIT. the Koran allows the murders of children, and anyone or anything for that matter... for the means justifies their actions... there are too many examples floating around.
so mohammed wasnt exactly a peaceful man... Jesus had a following of mass proportions, thats the main reason why people were worried... he couldve waged war easy, but nah, just wasnt his or God's style was it ?
you people have to stop making excuses for that book.
coola:
--- Quote from: h cottie on March 25, 2006, 10:49:52 PM ---and as to ur comment about "the high life"....
the prophet was born without a father (he died before the prophet's birth) and his mother died when he was 6 years old. he lived with his grandfather then with his uncle. the prophet became a merchant and one of his employers (his future wife) was very impressed with him and proposed him to marriage. the prophet did not inherit any money from his grandfather or uncle. so i dont understand where u get this "high life" statement from. the prophet was always regarded as a very honest and trustworthy person. (even before the first revelations at age 40)
--- End quote ---
fuck man, people all around the world have problems like that.. who gives a shit he is honest and trust worthy, thats what i expect from anyone and myself.
h cottie is bac-tive?:
--- Quote from: Chief on March 26, 2006, 03:53:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: h cottie on March 25, 2006, 10:38:50 PM ---LOL the prophet's first wife was a very successful business woman. she is the one that proposed to the prophet. he married his other wives after her death. some of the women were recent widows of warriors in battle while others were daughters of his close allies. they all accepted islam and understood that he had a great responsibility.
as to your comment about war. Meccans confiscated and stole all the property the muslims had left in mecca. the muslims owned no land in Medina so they would have to live on charity and whatever wage labor they could find, both of which were in very rare to find. these battles were in self-defense. there are MANY verses in the qu'ran related to warfare. here is an example:
"You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers."
"... if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them"
"You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors"
the prophet also layed down rules for humane warfare (which was unusual in those times)
"You are neither hard-hearted nor of fierce character, nor one who shouts in the markets. You do not return evil for evil, but excuse and forgive"
"Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman"
The Prophet's successor Abu Bakr said:
"Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone."
--- End quote ---
pfff that is BULLSHIT. the Koran allows the murders of children, and anyone or anything for that matter... for the means justifies their actions... there are too many examples floating around.
so mohammed wasnt exactly a peaceful man... Jesus had a following of mass proportions, thats the main reason why people were worried... he couldve waged war easy, but nah, just wasnt his or God's style was it ?
you people have to stop making excuses for that book.
--- End quote ---
WTF are u talkin about bullshit? that is 100% true. it's all in the book if u have the brains to read it for yourself. actually on the other hand, u dont deserve to. u talk all forms of bullshit about my religion, all types of lies and prejudice and i tried to explain to u the true meanings of islam, but u are OBVIOUSLY brainwashed. ur worse than cwalker becaus at least he'll admit he's a racist. you're worse than that, you talk all this bullshit and wen i respond truthfully u automatically dismiss it.
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