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Women in the fire & police departments
Lincoln:
--- Quote from: Adon on March 23, 2006, 09:33:12 AM ---I don't have a problem with it at all. I know that if a woman is a firefighter, she is qualified. I know a guy who wanted to become a firefighter, but he's too short so he can't. So the woman would obviously have to be a beast.
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I think it depends on where you live too, doesn't the US have really tough laws on affirmative action programs? I'm pretty sure Ontario has scrapped them down to almost nothing.
nibs:
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on March 23, 2006, 09:19:47 AM ---So you want a 5 foot, 110 pound woman trying to pull you out of a building?
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it depends on how strong she is. and she could drive the truck, or turn on the hose or something if she can't carry cats.
--- Quote ---Hell, some even get bonuses for just showing up to a fire, when a man gets no bonus for the same thing.
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sounds like a sweet deal for the skirts.
women don't have true equality in this society, so you see these weird inversions in certain cases to overcompensate. then you have these cats that don't respect women trying to point at the inversions in order to roll back the initiatives that are well meaning and only strive for equality.
why not realize true equality first, then worry about minor details like this. i see people wanting to take away from women what little they actually have, yet give them nothing in return. lets make things fair in a meaningful manner first. then clean up these abnormalities.
i'd like to see an equal rights amendment ratified. i'd like to see a situation where any company that were paying women less than men for the same job could be sued and fined...etc. let's eliminate those discrepancies first. then we can worry about frail women trying to play fireman, or pregnant women expecting the world to stop while they are on maternity leave. equality first!
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: nibs on March 23, 2006, 09:42:24 AM ---i see people wanting to take away from women what little they actually have
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You think women don't have much?
Sikotic™:
I got nothing against women in the fire department. The thing is, the majority of women are not qualified. They're allowed in the department so that the county/city can avoid lawsuits.
I know a guy in the fire department. He said they were running drills and a woman around 5'4 and 125 was suppose to pull him out of a simulated burning building. Now he's around 6'1, 200+ pounds. She gave up on him after 30 seconds.
Yes, women deserve equality, but at what price? We can't fuck around when it comes to people's lives. My friend also told me one of his fellow firewomen had to be carried out by the people she was suppose to be rescuing LOL.
I don't wanna be misinterpreted. There are many women who deserve to be in the fire department and pull their weight. They get treated with lots of respect by their male collegues too. It's these petite women that believe they can "be anything they put their mind to" and actually get accepted to the FD that I have beef with.
Equal opportunity with equal physical ability.
nibs:
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on March 23, 2006, 09:46:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: nibs on March 23, 2006, 09:42:24 AM ---i see people wanting to take away from women what little they actually have
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You think women don't have much?
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i think women have about 72% as much as men in the u.s.. slightly higher in some places. significantly lower in others. i'd like to see that number closer to 98% across the board; personally.
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