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Uh oh, the Latinos are protesting like crazy......
Javier:
--- Quote from: jose jackson on March 27, 2006, 10:00:14 AM ---a few questions
1) does anyone ever consider overpopulation?
2) can anyone from a south american country or any other country fill me in if a foreigner went to a non-english speaking country do you think they would ask their employees to learn the foreigners language or would you half to assimilate? and yes I understand it has to do with the dollar amount that is being spent from whatever group but think of the recent riots in France should show an example of two cultures clashing
3) do illegally immigrants pay payroll taxes I know they pay sales taxes on what ever they buy but what is the percentage of taxes payroll or sales that goes into social programs, schools etc...
4) Considering that NAFTA brought on this problem making it harder for ppl to survive in their own country and with all the racial pride latino ppl have why wouldn't more groups start organization like the Chiapas to fight for their own land & families instead of making the beast that ran you out of your country more wealthy?
5) When Bush & other ppl say these are jobs americans will not do i.e. constuction, nanny, janitor, bus boys, day labor, stawberry picker the shitty paying rough jobs etc.....
who were doing these jobs before this became an issue?
please answer the questions and inform me don't start name calling like your 10 yrs old
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1. Overpopulation is a global problem.
2. The situation will not even be close to what France went through. Spanish speaking people are not forcing the people that live here to know spanish, and I'm sure there's a good percentage of them learning English.
3. If they have a fake SS number, they pay the same as a legal immigrant and U.S. Citizen.
4. People have lost faith in the Mexican government. The Government of Mexico don't even pay attention to the Zapatistas these days. If militiant groups start appearing, not only will the Mexico govt stop but the US will step in too.
5. Legal immigrants, lol.
jose jackson:
--- Quote from: Javy on March 27, 2006, 12:56:22 PM ---The people that work in the agricultural industry are mainly citziens and legal immigrants of the U.S. Illegal immigriation will not tear the U.S. apart, come on now. This country isn't weak. Illegal immigrants don't just get free healthcare, you think it's free for them to go see a Doctor? It's only considered free if they go into the ER room, and even at that some are scared to go. Most of the people that are undocumented and working obtain fake SS numbers that are not owned by citizens, and they get the same paycheck with a percentage taken out of it and they never receive those benefits,. What about those people? It's just too damn difficult to find the perfect immigrant reform plan.
--- End quote ---
doesn't having babies constitute as using health care? and you really suprised me with that stat of migrant workers in the fields being legal citizens cause every time ppl talk about the hard work americans won't do it's usually on the top of the list but I guess american citizens will do the tough work tell Bush we don't need guest worker visa's
Javier:
I don't know the entire situation, but from the people that I know they paid for the entire procedure. Yeah that is true about having babies some cases the Father is a legal immigrant and his wife has the baby but they're covered thanks to his job.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: Javy on March 27, 2006, 12:56:22 PM ---Illegal immigrants don't just get free healthcare, you think it's free for them to go see a Doctor? It's only considered free if they go into the ER room, and even at that some are scared to go. Most of the people that are undocumented and working obtain fake SS numbers that are not owned by citizens, and they get the same paycheck with a percentage taken out of it and they never receive those benefits,. What about those people? It's just too damn difficult to find the perfect immigrant reform plan.
--- End quote ---
You seem to forget that that is a felony.
--- Quote from: Javy on March 27, 2006, 12:56:22 PM ---It's just too damn difficult to find the perfect immigrant reform plan.
--- End quote ---
You got that right.
jose jackson:
--- Quote from: Javy on March 27, 2006, 01:08:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: jose jackson on March 27, 2006, 10:00:14 AM ---a few questions
1) does anyone ever consider overpopulation?
2) can anyone from a south american country or any other country fill me in if a foreigner went to a non-english speaking country do you think they would ask their employees to learn the foreigners language or would you half to assimilate? and yes I understand it has to do with the dollar amount that is being spent from whatever group but think of the recent riots in France should show an example of two cultures clashing
3) do illegally immigrants pay payroll taxes I know they pay sales taxes on what ever they buy but what is the percentage of taxes payroll or sales that goes into social programs, schools etc...
4) Considering that NAFTA brought on this problem making it harder for ppl to survive in their own country and with all the racial pride latino ppl have why wouldn't more groups start organization like the Chiapas to fight for their own land & families instead of making the beast that ran you out of your country more wealthy?
5) When Bush & other ppl say these are jobs americans will not do i.e. constuction, nanny, janitor, bus boys, day labor, stawberry picker the shitty paying rough jobs etc.....
who were doing these jobs before this became an issue?
please answer the questions and inform me don't start name calling like your 10 yrs old
--- End quote ---
1. Overpopulation is a global problem.
2. The situation will not even be close to what France went through. Spanish speaking people are not forcing the people that live here to know spanish, and I'm sure there's a good percentage of them learning English.
3. If they have a fake SS number, they pay the same as a legal immigrant and U.S. Citizen.
4. People have lost faith in the Mexican government. The Government of Mexico don't even pay attention to the Zapatistas these days. If militiant groups start appearing, not only will the Mexico govt stop but the US will step in too.
5. Legal immigrants, lol.
--- End quote ---
1. overpopulation is a poor ppl's problem cuz we all know Beverly Hills isn't over populated we just can not come in period. unless your cleaning their house
2. what do you think will happen in 10 yrs when this country in 90% spanish speaking yep u guessed it culture clashes and when you've lived in a area that has change over the last 10 years to 90% of the populus speaking spanish you can't even buy a tire without knowing spanish and no I don't mean Mexican Americans cause they have been here for years speaking the langauge of the land like it or not
3. another case of the race to the bottom they are making it easier to exploit themselve and other U.S. citizens because they are cheating the system by not applying for legal status low balling everyone else who half fought for the right that their entitle to YES ENSLAVED AFRIKANS & NATIVE AMERICANS FOLKS FOUGHT ON THE FRONTLINE TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY
4. again low balling everyone else out here don't tell me every apt, house, building construction job etc... has been built by immigrants only?
that's funny maybe ppl will feel the affects when the tables turn and they are faced with a race to the bottom.
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