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--- Quote from: Javy on April 02, 2006, 07:19:49 PM ---You can't compare Miguel Batista to BJ Ryan.  There is a huuuuuuuuuge difference. 

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What's the huge difference? They've both been closers for roughly 2 seasons & at the most 5 career saves separate the 2. I'm not seeing the big difference here.

Javier:
B.J Ryan doesn't rely on his defense to get guys out. In 2004 he had a K/9 of 11.7 and he increased that in 2005 with a 12.5 K/9.  Batista barely got a 6.3 k/9 rate.  Plus, BJ Ryan keeps the ball inside the park.  Batista was an Average Reliever while BJ Ryan is a top reliever who doesnt rely on his defense to get outs.  He K's guys and has a low walk rate too.  His WHIP is well above average while Batista's WHIP is well below average. 

Perfection:

--- Quote from: Javy on April 03, 2006, 12:26:53 AM ---B.J Ryan doesn't rely on his defense to get guys out. In 2004 he had a K/9 of 11.7 and he increased that in 2005 with a 12.5 K/9.  Batista barely got a 6.3 k/9 rate.  Plus, BJ Ryan keeps the ball inside the park. Batista was an Average Reliever while BJ Ryan is a top reliever who doesnt rely on his defense to get outs.  He K's guys and has a low walk rate too.  His WHIP is well above average while Batista's WHIP is well below average. 

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It doesn't matter cause they both get the job done. Whether Batista loads the bases before getting the save it doesn't matter cause he still got the job done. So for the Blue Jays to pay all that money to a closer who stats wise isn't much better than who he repalce; it doesn't show that the Jays spent money wisely.

Javier:
BJ Ryan gets the job done, Batista didn't.  HUUUUUUUGE difference.  It's like saying Cantu is the same hitter as Utley because they are both 2B that drove in over 100 RBIs, there is a reason Batista isn't even a set up man this year while BJ ryan has been a top notch closer for the past 2 years.

Perfection:

--- Quote from: Javy on April 03, 2006, 01:13:37 PM ---BJ Ryan gets the job done, Batista didn't.  HUUUUUUUGE difference.  It's like saying Cantu is the same hitter as Utley because they are both 2B that drove in over 100 RBIs, there is a reason Batista isn't even a set up man this year while BJ ryan has been a top notch closer for the past 2 years.

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You can't say that though at their career saves afre almost the same. BJ Ryan got the job done as much as Batista did. Ryan just got over paid because he had one good season with Baltimore. Ryan is going to be making more than any closer in baseball except for Mariono. & if he's getting paid because of what he's done in his career; then Batista is defintely going to cash in as he basically has the same numbers. By the way, BJ has only been a closer for one year, year & a half at the most. Defintely not enough time to prove he deserves all that kind of money.

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