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U.S. caught playing up role of Zarqawi in Iraq to promote their war propaganda

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Don Rizzle:
I don't want to see them there indefinatly, but to leave now would be plain stupid.

troops being there are part of the problem but they are also part of the solution, for our troops to be able to leave there needs to be a governement, institutions, police and an army which can hold the country together on its own, this criteria has not been met yet. If we leave before then fight for power will intensify and there will be full scale civil war which would be very likely spill over into neighbouring countries. Things may look bad now, but i garentee they will be fuck load worse if we were to leave now. People need to be discussing how to improve the current situation, which a large scale pull out certainly would not achieve.

with reference to scooter libby, yea they are not gonna stop his trial and rightly so, but this different we are talking about what happening RIGHT NOW, if the invasion was illegal or not it makes absolutely no difference to the presence now, which has a clear mandate. If there are grounds to prosecute the leaders who took us to war that should be handled by the courts, but it shouldn't be linked to the question of whether we should stay it out or not. thats would just be bad judgement.

Javier:
It's pretty obvious that no one wants to see them leave there ASAP but it's still fucking tiring seeing people die every day for some bullshit and these same leaders are getting preperaed for another war.  Like if it would make any sense for Iran to use their potential nuclear weapons on the U.S or even sell it to extremists...they would know the end result if that decisision were to be made. 

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Javy on April 11, 2006, 08:17:57 AM ---It's pretty obvious that no one wants to see them leave there ASAP

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I want to see them leave immediately

You guys still don't understand how the media has manipulated you.  You have to learn to read between the lines and see the big picture.  The US had a stategic plan when they entered Iraq, and it wasn't just about Weapons of Mass Destruction. 

The US is not trying to prevent a civil war in Iraq but rather they are trying to create a civil war in Iraq.  The US is not trying to set up the conditions for their departure from Iraq but rather they are trying to create conditions that would justify a long-term occupation of Iraq. 

Open your eyes.

Jip:

--- Quote from: Islamic Khalifah Sultan Abdul Hamid- 1908- on April 11, 2006, 11:00:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Javy on April 11, 2006, 08:17:57 AM ---It's pretty obvious that no one wants to see them leave there ASAP

--- End quote ---

I want to see them leave immediately

You guys still don't understand how the media has manipulated you.  You have to learn to read between the lines and see the big picture.  The US had a stategic plan when they entered Iraq, and it wasn't just about Weapons of Mass Destruction. 

The US is not trying to prevent a civil war in Iraq but rather they are trying to create a civil war in Iraq.  The US is not trying to set up the conditions for their departure from Iraq but rather they are trying to create conditions that would justify a long-term occupation of Iraq. 

Open your eyes.

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we know

its quite obvious

but theres nothing i can do, you either

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