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WestCoasta:

--- Quote from: Spicemuthafuckin1 on April 15, 2006, 10:31:00 AM ---A majority of those stats were accomplished before he got all huge in 86-2001,  remember he was always real skinny until about 2000 and 2001, the dude was clean for about 85-90% of his career.  He still would of hit 600 Home Runs if he never juiced
Steroids or not he's the baddest motherfucker to ever play

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and I'm not disagreeing with that, of course he's a great player, and of course he was a Hall or Famer before he took steroids..

but the thing is - he took steroids, so that right there just fucks it all up

look how banged up he is right now, u think without steroids he woulda lasted til 42 and hit 70 homers in the season and then like 45 every year after that til he's in his 40's?

my whole argument is, I know there are others who took steroids, and they're gay for that - but we don't know all of em, and the one that's chasing the biggest records in baseball took steroids for a few years...

I'm a big Kobe Bryant fan living in LA and all, that would be like in that case there having evidence that he raped that girl - this steroids isnt as bad as rape, but the same situation is there - would it be right for me to say "ah so what he raped this girl, dudes rape bitches all the time... he's still dope, I'ma support him cuz he's a good basketball player, one the best"

it's just that Bonds is constantly lying, saying he knows the truth (obviously he knew he was taking roids, who the fuck wouldnt know, u dont get steroids by mistake) and saying he loves the people that stand up for him... point is, he was one of the players that took an upper hand in the game and people don't wanna seem to realize that

I sure as hell know that if my favorite player took steroids I'd think he was bitch and cheater, I wouldnt like him still just cuz I liked him before....

so why do his fans choose to ignore these facts?  even if he is one of the greats... it's like lying to yourself

I Am The Anton:

--- Quote from: We$t Coa$t on April 15, 2006, 02:58:05 PM ---

but the thing is - he took steroids, so that right there just fucks it all up



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I agree. In my eyes, the second he started taking steroids and continued to become even more of a asshole, all of his career stats reset to 0.

Just Another Sunny day in California:
this dude took steroids no doubt it.  And IMO i think it'll be a disgrace for him to surpass Babe then maybe Hank Aaron.  He started using about in 98-99 so the majority of his homeruns were hit after that.  he's a good player but in my eyes he's lost all my respect, he's a cheat.  i think it's pretty fuck dumb that Pete Rose, all time hits leader, is ban from gambling on baseball but yet cheats get it away with it, that's fuckin stupid.

Black_Smoke:

--- Quote from: I Am The Anton on April 15, 2006, 06:37:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: We$t Coa$t on April 15, 2006, 02:58:05 PM ---

but the thing is - he took steroids, so that right there just fucks it all up



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I agree. In my eyes, the second he started taking steroids and continued to become even more of a asshole, all of his career stats reset to 0.

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props on ur sig,Bret Harts dope 8)

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