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The hip-hop community will be the next segment of US soceity to embrace Islam
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: Cop Killla on April 17, 2006, 03:02:16 PM ---As for this topic its just another attempt to keep people talking about Islam.
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:sign_werd: Just another ploy by Infinite to make it seem like Islam is the universal serious topic of the world. Otherwise why didn't he post this in the outbound section?
Shallow:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 17, 2006, 01:56:38 PM ---On 2001, and since, Dre has made MOST his beats from live instruments, and he basically tells his artist what sound he wants, and from there he takes the "samples" from those intruments and makes them into a beat. He can also play drums, as his drum skillz, and DJ Yella's, are some of the best in the Hip-Hop world. Don't hate.
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Whose drum skills are we comparing them to? I'm not saying Dre is talentless hack but you put him next to someone like Bonham and he'll look ridiculous on the drums.
All I remember about 2001 is the Next Episode. I got my copy early via pirating and I brought it to school. I played Next Episode first since I thought it would be the most like his old stuff. I played it for a friend in my grade 12 auto shop class and his jaw dropped, and he said "what the fuck". He goes into his bag and gets a CD. He was an amateur producer himself and he hung around with a lot of guys that made music. He put the CD in my player and said listen to this track. I hear a song with his buddies rapping on it and the beat from the intro to the main part was exactly the same and this was a track that was made a year before 2001 leaked. You could tell that the people playing the instruments were different and the sound was faded because it was from the original sample but it was the same note for note. My view on Dre and hip hop production changed after that. People I once held in such high regard as composers I saw in a different light. I've been looking for that friend of mine recently because I want to know what the original smaple was. I never did find out.
And Cop Killa; I agree with the Clash statement. I'm a big fan of the Clash.
Suga Foot:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 17, 2006, 03:41:10 PM ---All I remember about 2001 is the Next Episode. I got my copy early via pirating and I brought it to school. I played Next Episode first since I thought it would be the most like his old stuff. I played it for a friend in my grade 12 auto shop class and his jaw dropped, and he said "what the fuck". He goes into his bag and gets a CD. He was an amateur producer himself and he hung around with a lot of guys that made music. He put the CD in my player and said listen to this track. I hear a song with his buddies rapping on it and the beat from the intro to the main part was exactly the same and this was a track that was made a year before 2001 leaked. You could tell that the people playing the instruments were different and the sound was faded because it was from the original sample but it was the same note for note. My view on Dre and hip hop production changed after that. People I once held in such high regard as composers I saw in a different light. I've been looking for that friend of mine recently because I want to know what the original smaple was. I never did find out.
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I think it was David McAllums "The Edge", and he praised Dre for his version.
Both Missin Linx and Tash have also both sampled that track.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 17, 2006, 03:41:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 17, 2006, 01:56:38 PM ---On 2001, and since, Dre has made MOST his beats from live instruments, and he basically tells his artist what sound he wants, and from there he takes the "samples" from those intruments and makes them into a beat. He can also play drums, as his drum skillz, and DJ Yella's, are some of the best in the Hip-Hop world. Don't hate.
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Whose drum skills are we comparing them to? I'm not saying Dre is talentless hack but you put him next to someone like Bonham and he'll look ridiculous on the drums.
All I remember about 2001 is the Next Episode. I got my copy early via pirating and I brought it to school. I played Next Episode first since I thought it would be the most like his old stuff. I played it for a friend in my grade 12 auto shop class and his jaw dropped, and he said "what the fuck". He goes into his bag and gets a CD. He was an amateur producer himself and he hung around with a lot of guys that made music. He put the CD in my player and said listen to this track. I hear a song with his buddies rapping on it and the beat from the intro to the main part was exactly the same and this was a track that was made a year before 2001 leaked. You could tell that the people playing the instruments were different and the sound was faded because it was from the original sample but it was the same note for note. My view on Dre and hip hop production changed after that. People I once held in such high regard as composers I saw in a different light. I've been looking for that friend of mine recently because I want to know what the original smaple was. I never did find out.
And Cop Killa; I agree with the Clash statement. I'm a big fan of the Clash.
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I capped MOST because of that one example I knew you would use. Listen to the rest of that CD. Xplosive was sampled by Erika Badu within a year of release, and every other beat was original.
Suga Foot:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 17, 2006, 05:09:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 17, 2006, 03:41:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 17, 2006, 01:56:38 PM ---On 2001, and since, Dre has made MOST his beats from live instruments, and he basically tells his artist what sound he wants, and from there he takes the "samples" from those intruments and makes them into a beat. He can also play drums, as his drum skillz, and DJ Yella's, are some of the best in the Hip-Hop world. Don't hate.
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Whose drum skills are we comparing them to? I'm not saying Dre is talentless hack but you put him next to someone like Bonham and he'll look ridiculous on the drums.
All I remember about 2001 is the Next Episode. I got my copy early via pirating and I brought it to school. I played Next Episode first since I thought it would be the most like his old stuff. I played it for a friend in my grade 12 auto shop class and his jaw dropped, and he said "what the fuck". He goes into his bag and gets a CD. He was an amateur producer himself and he hung around with a lot of guys that made music. He put the CD in my player and said listen to this track. I hear a song with his buddies rapping on it and the beat from the intro to the main part was exactly the same and this was a track that was made a year before 2001 leaked. You could tell that the people playing the instruments were different and the sound was faded because it was from the original sample but it was the same note for note. My view on Dre and hip hop production changed after that. People I once held in such high regard as composers I saw in a different light. I've been looking for that friend of mine recently because I want to know what the original smaple was. I never did find out.
And Cop Killa; I agree with the Clash statement. I'm a big fan of the Clash.
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I capped MOST because of that one example I knew you would use. Listen to the rest of that CD. Xplosive was sampled by Erika Badu within a year of release, and every other beat was original.
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A LOT of beats on 2001 used music from other songs. I can think of 7 just off the top of my head.
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