Lifestyle > Train of Thought
Easter?
Shallow:
Why do you guys take Infinite so seriously? He's obviously joking. You can tell by his writing that he isn't as completely stupid as he pretends to be. He's just trying to get people riled up. Just like he did when he said 2Pac deserves his own religion and Dr. Dre has more musical talent Ludwig Von Beethoven.
I no longer take any offense to what he says. He's no Muslim. He's just some kid white kid in the suburbs with a computer and a lot of free time. There is no doubt that he knows about Islam and studied it but he follows it about as much as CWalker follows Christianity, (I realize Cordell Walker could just be a gimmick too). I'm a Christian and I know it. I don't even go to Church in the traditional sense because Christianity is about a lot more than that. I'm not perfect but I don't pretend to be, and nothing ol' Brian here can say will ever make me doubt my faith or lifestyle. You guys shouldn't waste valuable typing time on the guy. If you really want to piss him off just don't respond to any of his posts at all from now on. I'm going to try it. Let's see how long before he snaps.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: Islamic Khalifah Sultan Abdul Hamid- 1908- on April 18, 2006, 12:51:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on April 18, 2006, 12:35:49 PM ---
Oh, I get it. So Muslims spend 24-7 in there churches praying. They don't eat sleep or procreate because they're Muslims 24-7. Christains on the other hand are only Christains on Sunday according to you.
So if a Christain is only a Christain when he's at church/praying, and Muslims are Muslims 24-7 then that means they spend 24-7 praying/worshiping. They don't eat, sleep, procreate, or do anything like that because a Muslim is a Muslim 24-7. :P
--- End quote ---
No, not exactly.
You see, Islam means "submission to the Creator". So it's a state of mind and a state of being. Even going to work becomes an act of worship, because we go to work for the sake of Allah; and we don't forget to remember him even when at work. There is giudance in the Qu'ran for how a Muslim should conduct his business. It's like that in all things; it's spending your whole life in submission to Allah. Even sex is an act of worship. The Prophet Muhammad (saws) was asked by his companions "How is it, that Allah rewards us for having sexual relations with our wife?" The Prophet Muhammad replied, "If you were out in the world engaging in unlawful activities Allah would punish you correct? Well, likewise; Allah rewards when you engage in what is permissable".
--- End quote ---
And what makes you think Christianty doesn't have the same belief?
nibs:
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on April 18, 2006, 12:35:49 PM ---Why do you speak in second person plural? You seem to forget that you are American too, therfore you will suffer the same problems as me or any other American. How does that feel? But wait since you're Muslim you are not like the rest of Americans. Your religous discrimination sickens me like only a white man's discrimination can.
--- End quote ---
there's an interesting psychological/philosophical debate that you are touching on there. the basic notion is that you are what you identify with. i touched on this with shallow about how american blacks identify with a race; whereas jamaicans and africans identify with nations. (africans also identify with tribes within their nations); europeans identify with their nations, and even many white americans still identify with their european nations of origin.
if you look at a religion like hinduism, it states that all of these identities are false; illusions that people believe which only serves to divide them.
in a similar manner, the qu'ran states in several places that all people are the same, created from the same pair. thus, the only identification one should have is with other muslims. the qu'ran states that peaceful and amicable relations should be maintained with everyone, but the only identification one should make is with other muslims; as that is the only identification that matters.
so while you challenge infinite and criticize him for denying "who he is"; why shouldn't infinite be allowed to define who he is on his own?
nibs:
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl link=topic=107663.msg1111187#msg1111187 ---And what makes you think Christianty doesn't have the same belief?
--- End quote ---
the qu'ran asserts that the followers of christ's teachings do believe the same; unless they have distorted the teachings of christ.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: nibs on April 18, 2006, 01:13:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on April 18, 2006, 12:35:49 PM ---Why do you speak in second person plural? You seem to forget that you are American too, therfore you will suffer the same problems as me or any other American. How does that feel? But wait since you're Muslim you are not like the rest of Americans. Your religous discrimination sickens me like only a white man's discrimination can.
--- End quote ---
there's an interesting psychological/philosophical debate that you are touching on there. the basic notion is that you are what you identify with. i touched on this with shallow about how american blacks identify with a race; whereas jamaicans and africans identify with nations. (africans also identify with tribes within their nations); europeans identify with their nations, and even many white americans still identify with their european nations of origin.
if you look at a religion like hinduism, it states that all of these identities are false; illusions that people believe which only serves to divide them.
in a similar manner, the qu'ran states in several places that all people are the same, created from the same pair. thus, the only identification one should have is with other muslims. the qu'ran states that peaceful and amicable relations should be maintained with everyone, but the only identification one should make is with other muslims; as that is the only identification that matters.
so while you challenge infinite and criticize him for denying "who he is"; why shouldn't infinite be allowed to define who he is on his own?
--- End quote ---
Because who he is and what he is is 2 diffrent things.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version