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TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: ZILLA THE GOODFELLA on April 19, 2006, 05:04:35 PM ---
I wasn't speaking on behalf of Muslims. You just love pointing out how I'm not a Muslim even though I'm Middle Eastern, like it matters to me. It's true, I don't practice Islam, so why should I label myself a Muslim since I'm Middle Eastern? All you see is extreme Muslims in your lil mosque and actually believe they represent majority of "Muslims". Well, here's the big secret....Most Muslims don't practice Islam. "Muslim" is just what they grew up as and usually they stay that way. When they say there are 1 billion Muslims in the world, they are measuring who is born into what. You act like Muslims are these superior non-sinning angels which they are not.
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Nibs made many excellent points in his response to Rod, it made me want to add something to my previous response... Rod, I want to ask you, what would be the point of worship if it were only a matter of being born in a particular region?
The truth is that Islam is the religion of submission to the Creator, it is not attatched to any person, place, or thing in the creation. Being born in Mekkah does not gaurantee you will be a submitter. There were people who lived next to the Prophets, Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, etc.(pbut), and they still chose to go astray. Every individual from a human perspective is given freedom of choice, but ultimately Allah knows what desicion we are going to make.
That's why it was so impressive to me (back when I was living in that ignorant mindstate) to meet a young Muslim at work, who came from West Africa to America all by himself at age 23, without any family influence, and inspite of the environment around him and all the oppurtunities to go astray in this country; he was still righteously maintaining his Islam everyday. It had a profound effect on me, and penetrated so deep into my own little world that I found myself changed and liberated from frustrating grasps of phychological and spiritual bondage that had previously been afflicting me.
This life is a testing ground, we will be tested regardless of where we are born. Allah did not create Earth as a paradise, this is not the place for trying live as long as we can and fullfill all of our desires; rather, we have a very short period in this life to worship Allah and achieve a righteous state of being (submission).
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Dat Nigga Ted aka The 10th Nazgûl on April 20, 2006, 12:53:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: nibs on April 20, 2006, 12:11:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on April 19, 2006, 11:42:29 PM ---That's one thing about most major religions I don't like: they don't teach tolerance towards other people. This goes for Muslims and Christians. Until Christians and Muslims can understand that they can't change eachother's minds (willingly or forcefully) then things will never change.
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the qu'ran teaches tolerance.
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Of course it does, so does almost any other religon. The problem is that it is never fully practiced. People say that their religon is one of tolerance, and it is easy to provide evidence/proof of that. But then to got religious people on all ends killing, destroying, etc for their religon/beliefs. Is taking over a forgien counrty tolerance? Is killing that 7 year old kid by hijacking a plane tolerance?
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Exactly. It's tolerance to an extent. No religions says anything along the lines of "respect another's beliefs" or "live and let live". That's why everythings fucked up.
nibs:
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on April 20, 2006, 12:52:52 PM ---Exactly. It's tolerance to an extent. No religions says anything along the lines of "respect another's beliefs" or "live and let live". That's why everythings fucked up.
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actually sikhism says exactly that, and hinduism also strongly suggests that as well.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: nibs on April 20, 2006, 03:29:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on April 20, 2006, 12:52:52 PM ---Exactly. It's tolerance to an extent. No religions says anything along the lines of "respect another's beliefs" or "live and let live". That's why everythings fucked up.
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actually sikhism says exactly that, and hinduism also strongly suggests that as well.
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You're right. I only had Christianity and Islam on my mind when I wrote that. My bad.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: -Sikotic- on April 20, 2006, 12:52:52 PM ---
Exactly. It's tolerance to an extent. No religions says anything along the lines of "respect another's beliefs" or "live and let live". That's why everythings fucked up.
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Qu'ran- Chapter 109: "Disbelievers" (English Translation of whole chapter is as follows)
"Say O disbelievers
I do not worship what you worship
Nor do you worship whom I worship
I shall never worship what you worship
Neither will you worship whom I worship.
You have your path and I have mine."
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